Rugby Brain Injuries
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you cannot remove the risk of brain injuries in rugby players.
If that is your goal, call the game off. Just cancel it. Because all this death by a thousand cuts shit is actually worse.
@mariner4life said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
you cannot remove the risk of brain injuries in rugby players.
If that is your goal, call the game off. Just cancel it. Because all this death by a thousand cuts shit is actually worse.
You're right.
I wanted to write some ideas here but all of my suggestions will just make the game more like league, except perhaps not allow hands over the tackled player as soon as another player joins the action. And, I mean, right away.
Essentially remove jackeling from the game.
All of my (few) head-knocks in my very low-grade playing experience came from being over the ball while waiting for the bodies to pile in. I still marvel at the bravery of some of the little guys who constantly put themselves in that position. Fuck that.
For me, the game could be improved if turnovers could only be won by driving over the ball. If someone gets a boot or two, well too bad.
That won't happen though.
The game is pretty fucked in the toll it takes but equally life is life.
I was playing touch rugby the day I had my stroke and it may even be that the the one fall I had that day (just ran into another player and we both went down) actually caused it. Funnily enough, on that day, I got asked to play club rugby for them (as most were from the same club) and I said 'no, fuck that, I might do something serious and be really fucked up'.
Seven years later and I still get MRIs twice a year.
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Video probably won't work outside the UK. Ex-England scrum half and BBC commentator Nigel Starmer-Smith is in a bad way with dementia:.
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Another player with early onset dementia
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/former-wales-captain-ryan-jones-24510880
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Looks like someone should get tested.
https://twitter.com/milica_anscombe/status/1548785417557778432
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Looks like someone should get tested.
https://twitter.com/milica_anscombe/status/1548785417557778432
@antipodean I don't really get what's so stand out about the quote - what am I missing? I was hoping not to have to get tested too.
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@antipodean I don't really get what's so stand out about the quote - what am I missing? I was hoping not to have to get tested too.
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@KiwiMurph said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
@Bones Andy Powell is basically threatening Gareth Anscombe's wife. Not cool.
Oh sure, but why did she put that quote up? What's significant about it? Has he got 3 kids or something?
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@antipodean I don't really get what's so stand out about the quote - what am I missing? I was hoping not to have to get tested too.
@Bones Comes from a reply to Andy Powell's dipshit original post in response to Ryan Jones:
https://twitter.com/milica_anscombe/status/1548768483961348099
tl:dr Powell is an angry little fucktard who threatens women for pointing out he's a fucktard.
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@Bones Comes from a reply to Andy Powell's dipshit original post in response to Ryan Jones:
https://twitter.com/milica_anscombe/status/1548768483961348099
tl:dr Powell is an angry little fucktard who threatens women for pointing out he's a fucktard.
@antipodean said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
@Bones Comes from a reply to Andy Powell's dipshit original post in response to Ryan Jones:
https://twitter.com/milica_anscombe/status/1548768483961348099
tl:dr Powell is an angry little fucktard who threatens women for pointing out he's a fucktard.
I remember Powell coming across as a brainless fuckwit on the pitch, glad to see he appears to be the same off it as well
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Andy Powell is being a 5 star dick. This was his initial response to Ryan Jones' news:
https://twitter.com/andypowell8/status/1548691758518882304?t=lJqXBtqXGEysLbG4woAaoQ&s=19
Unsurprisingly, loads of people have told him that he's out of order, and his response is always let's meet up face to face and see if you've got the chops then.
He's since given a bullshit sorry-not-sorry "anyone who knows me" apology.
https://twitter.com/andypowell8/status/1548993919345639424?t=0SjUg5W49gkDkSbhSK5KwQ&s=19
Awful news about Ryan Jones though. He's widely regarded as one of the nicest blokes in rugby. Only 41, 6 kids, desperately sad.
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@antipodean said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
@Bones Comes from a reply to Andy Powell's dipshit original post in response to Ryan Jones:
https://twitter.com/milica_anscombe/status/1548768483961348099
tl:dr Powell is an angry little fucktard who threatens women for pointing out he's a fucktard.
I remember Powell coming across as a brainless fuckwit on the pitch, glad to see he appears to be the same off it as well
@MN5 said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
I remember Powell coming across as a brainless fuckwit on the pitch, glad to see he appears to be the same off it as well
Exhibit B: the time he got smashed after a Wales match, stole a golf buggy from the team hotel at 5.30am and drove it onto the motorway in search of a kebab
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/on-this-day-wales-andy-powell-drives-golf-buggy-down-m4/
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Say goodbye to the game we all loved. As more of this comes out no way it continues. And it will not only be confined to rugby.
A lot of under-privileged people will have to find another way to provide for their families.
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Just watched the Steve Thompson documentary.
It’s incredibly powerful and heart breaking.
I made a pretty shitty call on Hayman on here a few months back. Absolutely terrible call by me.
You should only watch it if you never want to look at rugby the same way again.
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For those in UK or with a decent VPN.
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Tough watch from Thompson’s perspective
Hope he loses his mind quicker
That might alleviate the suicidal thoughts
He’s part of a cohort of players at the onset of professionalism who are the exception not the norm
Those before them there’s a small incidence
And hopefully from here on in things will change
Sadly we’re going to see a wave of 40 year olds displaying same symptoms for the next 10-15 years
Very easy changes can make the game safer
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Less contact in training
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3-week stand down for HIA (like it used to be)
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Continue down the road of any knock to the head whether accidental or on-purpose is red card and automatic 3-week ban
If the recipient of a head knock has to miss 3-weeks then so too should the perpetrator
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Head guards and gumshields
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Proper tackling technique learned from the outset
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Lead with the head off your feet at the breakdown and it’s red
That’ll do for starters
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Tough watch from Thompson’s perspective
Hope he loses his mind quicker
That might alleviate the suicidal thoughts
He’s part of a cohort of players at the onset of professionalism who are the exception not the norm
Those before them there’s a small incidence
And hopefully from here on in things will change
Sadly we’re going to see a wave of 40 year olds displaying same symptoms for the next 10-15 years
Very easy changes can make the game safer
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Less contact in training
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3-week stand down for HIA (like it used to be)
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Continue down the road of any knock to the head whether accidental or on-purpose is red card and automatic 3-week ban
If the recipient of a head knock has to miss 3-weeks then so too should the perpetrator
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Head guards and gumshields
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Proper tackling technique learned from the outset
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Lead with the head off your feet at the breakdown and it’s red
That’ll do for starters
@MiketheSnow I agree with points one and two. I definitely don't agree with point three - a rule like that would make the game a mockery. Also point four; headgear doesn't reduce impact force. They aren't helmets.
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@MiketheSnow I agree with points one and two. I definitely don't agree with point three - a rule like that would make the game a mockery. Also point four; headgear doesn't reduce impact force. They aren't helmets.
@antipodean said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
@MiketheSnow I agree with points one and two. I definitely don't agree with point three - a rule like that would make the game a mockery. Also point four; headgear doesn't reduce impact force. They aren't helmets.
Something drastic has to be done at the tackle
Look what football has done
The filthy Keane 'tackle' highlighted in another thread is a thing of the past
Thankfully
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@antipodean said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
@MiketheSnow I agree with points one and two. I definitely don't agree with point three - a rule like that would make the game a mockery. Also point four; headgear doesn't reduce impact force. They aren't helmets.
Something drastic has to be done at the tackle
Look what football has done
The filthy Keane 'tackle' highlighted in another thread is a thing of the past
Thankfully
@MiketheSnow said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
@antipodean said in Rugby Brain Injuries:
@MiketheSnow I agree with points one and two. I definitely don't agree with point three - a rule like that would make the game a mockery. Also point four; headgear doesn't reduce impact force. They aren't helmets.
Something drastic has to be done at the tackle
Look what football has done
The filthy Keane 'tackle' highlighted in another thread is a thing of the past
Thankfully
I agree with the sentiment, but feel eliminating head knocks is a matter of exponentially greater difficulty in a collision sport.
