2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby
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@nepia Nope.
This excludes NOBM Premier Reserve, because they already have team in the Nash Cup.
@stargazer said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@nepia Nope.
This excludes NOBM Premier Reserve, because they already have team in the Nash Cup.
Good - even though they win enough games, they are weak in several positions, so don't think they have the depth for 2 teams at top level
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@nepia Nope.
This excludes NOBM Premier Reserve, because they already have team in the Nash Cup.
@stargazer said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@nepia Nope.
This excludes NOBM Premier Reserve, because they already have team in the Nash Cup.
I shouldn't have skim read.
Good for Aotea.
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Ah, just found this write-up of yesterday's club rugby, that explains it all:
Havelock North and Napier Pirate, the two teams relegated in a competition reformatting after each failed to win a match in the Nash Cup round, kept their hopes alive of an early return to the top grade going by making the Senior Division 1 semifinals.
But they will be playing against each other. Havelock North, already the top qualifiers, completed an unbeaten run of big scores in the lower grade with a 67-17 win in Napier over Tech OB Reserves, who had started with a hope of snatching a playoff position, and Pirate secured the fourth qualifying berth with a 21-19 win over Taradale Reserves.
Division 1 first-round Country winners Aotea, the only other qualifiers eligible for promotion, beat Otane 48-13, to secure a home semifinal against Napier OBM Reserves, who beat Division 1 first-round town champions Maraenui 55-7.
HBRU club rugby manager Sean Davies confirmed that any club that reaches the Division 1 final and does not otherwise have a Premier side will be promoted, and if two of the three lose their semifinals the second promotion rights will go to the winners of the earlier round-robin match between the two sides.So no automatic promotion for Aotea just yet.
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Ah, just found this write-up of yesterday's club rugby, that explains it all:
Havelock North and Napier Pirate, the two teams relegated in a competition reformatting after each failed to win a match in the Nash Cup round, kept their hopes alive of an early return to the top grade going by making the Senior Division 1 semifinals.
But they will be playing against each other. Havelock North, already the top qualifiers, completed an unbeaten run of big scores in the lower grade with a 67-17 win in Napier over Tech OB Reserves, who had started with a hope of snatching a playoff position, and Pirate secured the fourth qualifying berth with a 21-19 win over Taradale Reserves.
Division 1 first-round Country winners Aotea, the only other qualifiers eligible for promotion, beat Otane 48-13, to secure a home semifinal against Napier OBM Reserves, who beat Division 1 first-round town champions Maraenui 55-7.
HBRU club rugby manager Sean Davies confirmed that any club that reaches the Division 1 final and does not otherwise have a Premier side will be promoted, and if two of the three lose their semifinals the second promotion rights will go to the winners of the earlier round-robin match between the two sides.So no automatic promotion for Aotea just yet.
This year's format came about after the players were surveyed after last season and stated they preferred a shorter season.
In 2019 the season started March 16 and finished with the Maddison Trophy final on July 20 = 19 playing Saturdays.
In 2021 the season started April 3 with the Maddison Trophy final on July 17 (including a week off on Queens Birthday) = 15 playing Saturdays.
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@stargazer said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@nepia Nope.
This excludes NOBM Premier Reserve, because they already have team in the Nash Cup.
Good - even though they win enough games, they are weak in several positions, so don't think they have the depth for 2 teams at top level
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Ah, just found this write-up of yesterday's club rugby, that explains it all:
Havelock North and Napier Pirate, the two teams relegated in a competition reformatting after each failed to win a match in the Nash Cup round, kept their hopes alive of an early return to the top grade going by making the Senior Division 1 semifinals.
But they will be playing against each other. Havelock North, already the top qualifiers, completed an unbeaten run of big scores in the lower grade with a 67-17 win in Napier over Tech OB Reserves, who had started with a hope of snatching a playoff position, and Pirate secured the fourth qualifying berth with a 21-19 win over Taradale Reserves.
Division 1 first-round Country winners Aotea, the only other qualifiers eligible for promotion, beat Otane 48-13, to secure a home semifinal against Napier OBM Reserves, who beat Division 1 first-round town champions Maraenui 55-7.
HBRU club rugby manager Sean Davies confirmed that any club that reaches the Division 1 final and does not otherwise have a Premier side will be promoted, and if two of the three lose their semifinals the second promotion rights will go to the winners of the earlier round-robin match between the two sides.So no automatic promotion for Aotea just yet.
@stargazer that means Aotea will go up as they beat Pirates earlier this year. IMO Aotea are a much better side and far more physical than pirates anyway. Just worried that Clubs won't like the long bus trip and also Aotea may not have the depth required to compete in the premier divison
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@stargazer that means Aotea will go up as they beat Pirates earlier this year. IMO Aotea are a much better side and far more physical than pirates anyway. Just worried that Clubs won't like the long bus trip and also Aotea may not have the depth required to compete in the premier divison
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@dirtydoolan And what if Havelock North loses its semi? Who won the game between Havelock North and Aotea?
Havelock defeated both Pirates 36-19 and Aotea 24-14 in the round robin.
Aotea beat Pirates 27-17 in the round robin
If Havelock lose to Pirates then Pirates are up, and Havelock will have to hope Aotea lose their semi for Havelock to go up.
NOBM Reserves cannot get promoted even if they win the final.
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@stargazer that means Aotea will go up as they beat Pirates earlier this year. IMO Aotea are a much better side and far more physical than pirates anyway. Just worried that Clubs won't like the long bus trip and also Aotea may not have the depth required to compete in the premier divison
@dirtydoolan said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@stargazer that means Aotea will go up as they beat Pirates earlier this year. IMO Aotea are a much better side and far more physical than pirates anyway. Just worried that Clubs won't like the long bus trip and also Aotea may not have the depth required to compete in the premier divison
On the contrary, what about the trips coming back. There are a few places worth a stop to have a chin wag and ale with the locals!
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@stockcar86 lol another marist hater
@dirtydoolan said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@stockcar86 lol another marist hater
He is fine with the other half of the combined outfit though!!!!!
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@dirtydoolan said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@stargazer that means Aotea will go up as they beat Pirates earlier this year. IMO Aotea are a much better side and far more physical than pirates anyway. Just worried that Clubs won't like the long bus trip and also Aotea may not have the depth required to compete in the premier divison
On the contrary, what about the trips coming back. There are a few places worth a stop to have a chin wag and ale with the locals!
@higgins absolutely, but i heard even havelock prems struggled to get squad down to Aotea this season, which is a shame. Aotea always put on a great spread/after match
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@higgins absolutely, but i heard even havelock prems struggled to get squad down to Aotea this season, which is a shame. Aotea always put on a great spread/after match
@dirtydoolan Country clubs in NZ are renowned for their aftermatch spreads. I spent a year over in Wnaganui and well remember the trips to Waiouru, Hunterville, Taihape Pirates, Ratehi (won a huge trout in a raffle there that night) and the superb feeds put on. Didn't make it to Utiku OB or Ohakune as the club I followed had them at home and can't remember why I did not make it to Waverley. The final pit stop at the Bridge Tavern at Whangaheu on the way back was also another highlight, even though it was just five minutes or so short of Wanganui!
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Next week's club finals will be all be played at McLean Park. Hopefully, they will still be livestreamed!
Article about the finals:
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@higgins absolutely, but i heard even havelock prems struggled to get squad down to Aotea this season, which is a shame. Aotea always put on a great spread/after match
@dirtydoolan said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@higgins absolutely, but i heard even havelock prems struggled to get squad down to Aotea this season, which is a shame. Aotea always put on a great spread/after match
What??? Dannevirke is quick as trip. Aren't there lots of Paewai's in the Havelock team anymore?
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@dirtydoolan said in 2021 Hawke's Bay club rugby:
@higgins absolutely, but i heard even havelock prems struggled to get squad down to Aotea this season, which is a shame. Aotea always put on a great spread/after match
What??? Dannevirke is quick as trip. Aren't there lots of Paewai's in the Havelock team anymore?
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Two articles about this weekend's club rugby. I've only copied the team lists:
Taradale Rugby and Sports (15 - 1):
Dylan Ramsay, Nathan Ramsay, Hemaua Samasoni, Kienan Higgins, Majella Tufuga, Brad Truesdale, Humphrey Sheild, Iakopo Mapu, Nathan Tweedy, Josh Eden-Whaitiri, Angelo Mufana, Sam Combs, Joe Apikotoa, Gene Syminton, Namatahi Waa (captain).
Substitutes: Forwards, Lolani Faleiva, Jacob Ward, Andrew Gardner, Thomas Eden. Backs, Karl Hewitt, Cam Robinson, Ollie Sapsford.Napier Old Boys Marist (15 - 1):
Liam Edwards, Josh McIntyre, Pedro Bezanilla, Paul Bickle, Michael Buckley, Bain Champion, Zach Donaldson (vice-captain), Ricky Hayes (captain), Will Tremain, Hannon Brighouse, Boris Van Bruchem, Sean Skeet, Johnny Faleiva, Dom Devine, Lee Moleli.
Substitutes: Forwards, James Holbrook, Pulea Faleiva, Matt Gardner, Pouvi Fatialofa, Logan Ede. Backs, Jonty Stewart, Sonny Lilo.https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/sport/sport/nobm-fullback-to-play-100th-match-in-semifinal
Hastings Rugby and Sports (15 - 1):
Jayden Rihia, Gideon Kautai, Danny Toala, Ausage Fomai, Saifiti Saifiti, Jordan Thompson-Dunn, Connor McLeod, Jacob Devery, Fale Matamata, Jardine Chung Ching, Jessie Lesa-Sipaia, Emil Crichton , Dennis Tapusoa, Miracle Lolofie, Angus McGuire.
Substitutes: Matt Wilson, Eugene Sandilands, Joe Taafi, Ioane Ioane, Xavier Hill, Andrew Hayward, Danya Tulou.Clive Rugby and Sports (15 - 1):
Lolagi Visinia, Josh Greening, Nick Biss, Jayden Falcon, Antony Wilson, Tianua Poto, Trent Hape, Joe Fuimaono, Josh Kaifa, Karetai Williams, Jay Tuivaiti, Donovan Mataira, Petera Kahui-Ariki, Jacob Dorward, Zac Southwick.
Substitutes: Forwards, Nick Agnew, Alfred Tuliaupupu, Izaia Walker-Leawere, Trent Robinson. Backs, Te Kahika Thompson, Jonah Lowe, Sebastian Visinia.https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/sport/sport/hastings-pair-return-from-international-duty-for-semifinal
Strange that they name IWL and Lowe on the bench. I also see that Bas Visinia is back (he's played in Manawatu and Auckland as well, this club season).It's great to have Super players back for club rugby, but geez, I'm always afraid they get injured and won't be available for NPC!
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Two articles about this weekend's club rugby. I've only copied the team lists:
Taradale Rugby and Sports (15 - 1):
Dylan Ramsay, Nathan Ramsay, Hemaua Samasoni, Kienan Higgins, Majella Tufuga, Brad Truesdale, Humphrey Sheild, Iakopo Mapu, Nathan Tweedy, Josh Eden-Whaitiri, Angelo Mufana, Sam Combs, Joe Apikotoa, Gene Syminton, Namatahi Waa (captain).
Substitutes: Forwards, Lolani Faleiva, Jacob Ward, Andrew Gardner, Thomas Eden. Backs, Karl Hewitt, Cam Robinson, Ollie Sapsford.Napier Old Boys Marist (15 - 1):
Liam Edwards, Josh McIntyre, Pedro Bezanilla, Paul Bickle, Michael Buckley, Bain Champion, Zach Donaldson (vice-captain), Ricky Hayes (captain), Will Tremain, Hannon Brighouse, Boris Van Bruchem, Sean Skeet, Johnny Faleiva, Dom Devine, Lee Moleli.
Substitutes: Forwards, James Holbrook, Pulea Faleiva, Matt Gardner, Pouvi Fatialofa, Logan Ede. Backs, Jonty Stewart, Sonny Lilo.https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/sport/sport/nobm-fullback-to-play-100th-match-in-semifinal
Hastings Rugby and Sports (15 - 1):
Jayden Rihia, Gideon Kautai, Danny Toala, Ausage Fomai, Saifiti Saifiti, Jordan Thompson-Dunn, Connor McLeod, Jacob Devery, Fale Matamata, Jardine Chung Ching, Jessie Lesa-Sipaia, Emil Crichton , Dennis Tapusoa, Miracle Lolofie, Angus McGuire.
Substitutes: Matt Wilson, Eugene Sandilands, Joe Taafi, Ioane Ioane, Xavier Hill, Andrew Hayward, Danya Tulou.Clive Rugby and Sports (15 - 1):
Lolagi Visinia, Josh Greening, Nick Biss, Jayden Falcon, Antony Wilson, Tianua Poto, Trent Hape, Joe Fuimaono, Josh Kaifa, Karetai Williams, Jay Tuivaiti, Donovan Mataira, Petera Kahui-Ariki, Jacob Dorward, Zac Southwick.
Substitutes: Forwards, Nick Agnew, Alfred Tuliaupupu, Izaia Walker-Leawere, Trent Robinson. Backs, Te Kahika Thompson, Jonah Lowe, Sebastian Visinia.https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/sport/sport/hastings-pair-return-from-international-duty-for-semifinal
Strange that they name IWL and Lowe on the bench. I also see that Bas Visinia is back (he's played in Manawatu and Auckland as well, this club season).It's great to have Super players back for club rugby, but geez, I'm always afraid they get injured and won't be available for NPC!
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So, the dilemma is: which of them do I go and watch?
Or should I go to Anderson Park instead, to see who wins out of Havelock North and Pirates for promotion back to Premier next year?
@number-10 Personally, I find the Hastings v Clive game the most interesting. I hope they stream that game. Unfortunately, sideline live won't do it, so depend on HBRU streaming it on FB.
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HBRU will be streaming Havelock North v Napier Pirate (k/o 2:45pm) on their FB page. So @Number-10, can you pick a premiers game (preferably Hastings v Clive haha)?
