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Auckland Rugby 2021

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    @kirwan said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

    One of the best finals.

    I wanted to go home at half time. My boy continues to remind me of that

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    @nzzp said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

    @kirwan said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

    One of the best finals.

    I wanted to go home at half time. My boy continues to remind me of that

    I was with my two kids, and I gave them the option to leave as well as we were completely soaked, but they loved it.

    Even my wallet was completely drenched.

    I took a selfie with them celebrating the win, I was so pumped I was fucking crosseyed.

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      @dice the EOY team review was pretty scathing....players (and some management) were pretty unanimous in wanting AI and Tiatia gone. ARU sacked Tiatia but doesn't appear to have been enough to appease the players!
      There is so much more to this story. I wouldn't be surprised if more comes out and AI 'resigns'
      Sounds like he shouldve done the right thing by the union and left of his own accord. Hes clung on and now the players dont want to be near the place as long as hes still there

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      @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

      @dice the EOY team review was pretty scathing....players (and some management) were pretty unanimous in wanting AI and Tiatia gone. ARU sacked Tiatia but doesn't appear to have been enough to appease the players!
      There is so much to this story. I wouldn't be surprised if more comes out and AI 'resigns'
      Sounds like he shouldve done the right thing by the union and left of his own accord. Hes clung on and now the players dont want to be near the place as long as hes still there

      A classic 'lost the changing room'?

      I'm really curious as to what happened. Not in a tabloid way, but because there is obviously a big pitfall here that he has waded into (much like Hammett) and probably something that everyone can learn from.
      Is he a coach that only connects with a certain personality type? Is he a 'new' coach with ways of working that are different to what players are used to and they don't like it? Has he set boundaries that the players don't like?
      Sounds like there was some problems with holding back player payments as well. That will always cause friction as players get torn between the team and family needs. Did the coaching issues get amplified because he didn't support the players in their battle for payment?

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        @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

        @dice the EOY team review was pretty scathing....players (and some management) were pretty unanimous in wanting AI and Tiatia gone. ARU sacked Tiatia but doesn't appear to have been enough to appease the players!
        There is so much to this story. I wouldn't be surprised if more comes out and AI 'resigns'
        Sounds like he shouldve done the right thing by the union and left of his own accord. Hes clung on and now the players dont want to be near the place as long as hes still there

        A classic 'lost the changing room'?

        I'm really curious as to what happened. Not in a tabloid way, but because there is obviously a big pitfall here that he has waded into (much like Hammett) and probably something that everyone can learn from.
        Is he a coach that only connects with a certain personality type? Is he a 'new' coach with ways of working that are different to what players are used to and they don't like it? Has he set boundaries that the players don't like?
        Sounds like there was some problems with holding back player payments as well. That will always cause friction as players get torn between the team and family needs. Did the coaching issues get amplified because he didn't support the players in their battle for payment?

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        @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          Kind of doesn’t matter how good a coach is if he forces away all your star players, and next rung below that.

          Pretty much have to sack him and move on.

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          @kirwan said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

          Pretty much have to sack him and move on.

          Might be expensive but it would be worth it

          I think Paul Feeney is back in the country.

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          • N Nogusta

            @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

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            @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

            @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

            Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?

            Something more than just that happening here.

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              @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

              @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

              Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?

              Something more than just that happening here.

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              @crucial said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

              @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

              @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

              Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?

              Something more than just that happening here.

              Yeah, the record is clearly not the problem. A win, a loss in the semis to the eventual winners and a close loss in a final. Not terrible results.

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                @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

                Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?

                Something more than just that happening here.

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                @crucial Yep. Definitley more than just that. Apparently he did little coaching just 'oversaw' and even thats being generous. Turn up to training unprepared and just go off the cuff, lacking coaching IQ for that level. Dan Bowden pretty much looked after the backs & attack/strikes. I remember seeing the halftime shots of the Akl change room in the semi against Waikato. Akl behind on the scoreboard in the premiership final - and its Dan Bowden who has the whiteboard up and pumping up the backs - Ieremia standing behind him looking rather awkward and out of place lol. Some personal things happened too in which the players lost respect for him as a person.

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                • N Nogusta

                  @crucial Yep. Definitley more than just that. Apparently he did little coaching just 'oversaw' and even thats being generous. Turn up to training unprepared and just go off the cuff, lacking coaching IQ for that level. Dan Bowden pretty much looked after the backs & attack/strikes. I remember seeing the halftime shots of the Akl change room in the semi against Waikato. Akl behind on the scoreboard in the premiership final - and its Dan Bowden who has the whiteboard up and pumping up the backs - Ieremia standing behind him looking rather awkward and out of place lol. Some personal things happened too in which the players lost respect for him as a person.

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                  @nogusta No different to the Canes coach then maybe we can swap at least Ieremia is a Wellington boy.

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                  • N Nogusta

                    @crucial Yep. Definitley more than just that. Apparently he did little coaching just 'oversaw' and even thats being generous. Turn up to training unprepared and just go off the cuff, lacking coaching IQ for that level. Dan Bowden pretty much looked after the backs & attack/strikes. I remember seeing the halftime shots of the Akl change room in the semi against Waikato. Akl behind on the scoreboard in the premiership final - and its Dan Bowden who has the whiteboard up and pumping up the backs - Ieremia standing behind him looking rather awkward and out of place lol. Some personal things happened too in which the players lost respect for him as a person.

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                    @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                    @crucial Yep. Definitley more than just that. Apparently he did little coaching just 'oversaw' and even thats being generous. Turn up to training unprepared and just go off the cuff, lacking coaching IQ for that level. Dan Bowden pretty much looked after the backs & attack/strikes. I remember seeing the halftime shots of the Akl change room in the semi against Waikato. Akl behind on the scoreboard in the premiership final - and its Dan Bowden who has the whiteboard up and pumping up the backs - Ieremia standing behind him looking rather awkward and out of place lol. Some personal things happened too in which the players lost respect for him as a person.

                    Most interesting to hear all that , I hope they get it all sorted. It always a concern when a coach loses players like that and if it let go on, will take a fair bit to repair damage.

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                    • N Nogusta

                      @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

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                      @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                      @crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!

                      Pah - if bloody Steve Hansen hadn't released Joe Moody to the Cantabs in the 2018 semi, you'd probably have done a no-peat! 🙂

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                        https://www.instagram.com/p/CNZVP71lmmz/

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                          Auckland club team sheets - link

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                            Auckland club team sheets - link

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                            @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                            Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?

                            Noticing a former Hawke's Bay Tui - Anna Powdrell - in the Ponsonby Fillies team. Probably moved to Auckland to attend Uni. Another one, Liana Mikaele-Tu'u, in her second year out of school, playing for College Rifles.

                            I see both Curtis sisters (Canterbury) are playing for College Rifles, too. Planning an FPC move?

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                              @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                              Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?

                              Noticing a former Hawke's Bay Tui - Anna Powdrell - in the Ponsonby Fillies team. Probably moved to Auckland to attend Uni. Another one, Liana Mikaele-Tu'u, in her second year out of school, playing for College Rifles.

                              I see both Curtis sisters (Canterbury) are playing for College Rifles, too. Planning an FPC move?

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                              @stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                              @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                              He is from Auckland and educated there. Milo-Harris was playing for Taranaki and the Chiefs Dev team only a few weeks ago.

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                                @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                                Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?

                                Noticing a former Hawke's Bay Tui - Anna Powdrell - in the Ponsonby Fillies team. Probably moved to Auckland to attend Uni. Another one, Liana Mikaele-Tu'u, in her second year out of school, playing for College Rifles.

                                I see both Curtis sisters (Canterbury) are playing for College Rifles, too. Planning an FPC move?

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                                @stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                                @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                                Lisati played for Auckland a few years ago but only got one start. Him and Plummer were the 9/10 combo that came through at the same time at Grammar TEC

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                                  https://twitter.com/AucklandRugby/status/1380759263283343361?s=20

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                                    Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?

                                    Noticing a former Hawke's Bay Tui - Anna Powdrell - in the Ponsonby Fillies team. Probably moved to Auckland to attend Uni. Another one, Liana Mikaele-Tu'u, in her second year out of school, playing for College Rifles.

                                    I see both Curtis sisters (Canterbury) are playing for College Rifles, too. Planning an FPC move?

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                                    @stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                                    @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                                    Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?

                                    Pretty sure those Milo Harris boys are the sons of Richie Harris - who by the way has joined the Counties Manukau coaching staff this year - who by the way have signed Hoskins Sotutu!

                                    Yea Jamie Spowart 2018 NZU20s, Ta$man. Botany Downs & Kings College educated so back in his hometown. Very fast and skilfull but perhaps could've done with a few extra kgs on his frame. I really rated him.

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                                      I had to laugh at Nigel Yalden talking up Ieremia, who was in the crowd watching the Blues-Crusaders U20 game. It would have been better not to say too much after the recent publicity surrounding the Auckland NPC team.

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                                        @stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                                        @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                                        Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?

                                        Pretty sure those Milo Harris boys are the sons of Richie Harris - who by the way has joined the Counties Manukau coaching staff this year - who by the way have signed Hoskins Sotutu!

                                        Yea Jamie Spowart 2018 NZU20s, Ta$man. Botany Downs & Kings College educated so back in his hometown. Very fast and skilfull but perhaps could've done with a few extra kgs on his frame. I really rated him.

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                                        @nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                                        @stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:

                                        @duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?

                                        Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?

                                        Pretty sure those Milo Harris boys are the sons of Richie Harris - who by the way has joined the Counties Manukau coaching staff this year - who by the way have signed Hoskins Sotutu!

                                        Yea Jamie Spowart 2018 NZU20s, Ta$man. Botany Downs & Kings College educated so back in his hometown. Very fast and skilfull but perhaps could've done with a few extra kgs on his frame. I really rated him.

                                        Need an extra option rather than "like". Perhaps, "thanks for posting, but goddammit all to hell".

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                                          Interesting that Paul Feeney is coaching the Barbarians U20 team ...

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