Rugby Commentators/Presenters
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Listening to our main game callers over the weekend highlighted an area of concern that as been coming for some time IMO.
Nisbo is heading down the slippery slide that Keith Quinn did. The errors are getting more and more, he is struggling to keep up and comes out with some clangers that make you picture that he is calling the game from in front of a black and white TV while in his robe and slippers and waiting for his boiled egg.
TJ is not the heir apparent. Way too much of an excited fanboy and after god knows how many decades calling games of rugby still makes statements about the laws that are plain wrong. Not interpretations or current ways of ruling but absolute basic laws of the game like telling the audience that a ref must see downward pressure from a ball carrier to award a try. Not true TJ. Never has been.Anyway, examples aside, who is coming through to be our 'senior' caller? The one that just calls the action, gets the players names right and conveys to viewers what is happening? At the moment we have someone who used to be very good at that but is akin to Biden and one that is technically OK but instead of becoming more 'senior' sounds more and more like an excited schoolboy.
Does anyone know the other options? All of our current 'others' are there for 'colour' or 'analysis'.
NB: I didn't mention Laban but seriously? Decent bloke and competent commentator but still seems to think he is watching league.
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@gunner said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
@mn5 said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
Bring back Mex
And all the psychic energy that comes with him?
There’s a whole new generation of players for him to pump as well.
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Listening to our main game callers over the weekend highlighted an area of concern that as been coming for some time IMO.
Nisbo is heading down the slippery slide that Keith Quinn did. The errors are getting more and more, he is struggling to keep up and comes out with some clangers that make you picture that he is calling the game from in front of a black and white TV while in his robe and slippers and waiting for his boiled egg.
TJ is not the heir apparent. Way too much of an excited fanboy and after god knows how many decades calling games of rugby still makes statements about the laws that are plain wrong. Not interpretations or current ways of ruling but absolute basic laws of the game like telling the audience that a ref must see downward pressure from a ball carrier to award a try. Not true TJ. Never has been.Anyway, examples aside, who is coming through to be our 'senior' caller? The one that just calls the action, gets the players names right and conveys to viewers what is happening? At the moment we have someone who used to be very good at that but is akin to Biden and one that is technically OK but instead of becoming more 'senior' sounds more and more like an excited schoolboy.
Does anyone know the other options? All of our current 'others' are there for 'colour' or 'analysis'.
NB: I didn't mention Laban but seriously? Decent bloke and competent commentator but still seems to think he is watching league.
@crucial said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
Listening to our main game callers over the weekend highlighted an area of concern that as been coming for some time IMO.
Nisbo is heading down the slippery slide that Keith Quinn did. The errors are getting more and more, he is struggling to keep up and comes out with some clangers that make you picture that he is calling the game from in front of a black and white TV while in his robe and slippers and waiting for his boiled egg.
TJ is not the heir apparent. Way too much of an excited fanboy and after god knows how many decades calling games of rugby still makes statements about the laws that are plain wrong. Not interpretations or current ways of ruling but absolute basic laws of the game like telling the audience that a ref must see downward pressure from a ball carrier to award a try. Not true TJ. Never has been.Anyway, examples aside, who is coming through to be our 'senior' caller? The one that just calls the action, gets the players names right and conveys to viewers what is happening? At the moment we have someone who used to be very good at that but is akin to Biden and one that is technically OK but instead of becoming more 'senior' sounds more and more like an excited schoolboy.
Does anyone know the other options? All of our current 'others' are there for 'colour' or 'analysis'.
NB: I didn't mention Laban but seriously? Decent bloke and competent commentator but still seems to think he is watching league.
The excessive screaming is the thing that really annoys me about TJ.
Tom Bartlett has been good at the basics as a play-by-play caller at Mitre 10 Cup level. Need to try some of these guys at Super Rugby level.
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There are two certainties on any thread about rugby matches - useless refs and useless commentators. I don't think it matters who commentates. We will still find something to complain about.
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There are two certainties on any thread about rugby matches - useless refs and useless commentators. I don't think it matters who commentates. We will still find something to complain about.
@crazy-horse said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
There are two certainties on any thread about rugby matches - useless refs and useless commentators. I don't think it matters who commentates. We will still find something to complain about.
And we still watch, and still listen, and still whinge.
Love rugby.
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when in the UK and watching football i use to enjoy flicking over to the "fans commentary", where they'd pick out a fan from each team as they entered the ground and stick them in a commentary box together...greatness ensued, no idea if they still do it
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when in the UK and watching football i use to enjoy flicking over to the "fans commentary", where they'd pick out a fan from each team as they entered the ground and stick them in a commentary box together...greatness ensued, no idea if they still do it
@kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.
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@kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.
@bovidae said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
@kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.
That’s pretty juvenile, it’s sport, it needs to be taken seriously. I can’t go for that.
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@bovidae said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
@kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.
That’s pretty juvenile, it’s sport, it needs to be taken seriously. I can’t go for that.
@mn5 said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
@bovidae said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
@kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.
That’s pretty juvenile, it’s sport, it needs to be taken seriously. I can’t go for that.
Say it isn't so!
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Not a popular opinion on here but I think Willy Lose has been excellent when I’ve heard him
@majorrage said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
Not a popular opinion on here but I think Willy Lose has been excellent when I’ve heard him
I enjoy his commentary. He's better at being the play by play than the colour commentator. Less time to think perhaps.
He does have a bad habit (like Sumo did) of having pre prepared linesHe does sound like he enjoys watching the rugby which is important.
The main Sky rugby commentators do not sound like they enjoy watching the game (well TJ enjoys watching a couple of teams..)
They don't have to be cheerleaders but the constant whining about the same topics can make listening a chore (yes I do switch to the refs mic often)Save the whining about rules, refs etc to the analysis shows during the week. Particularly given TJ/Nisbitt/Marshall constantly whine about the same thing each game. The same points over and over and over
The lower level NPC commentators, school rugby commentators, Japan Top League, Sean Maloney in Aus commentate the game in front of them and generally sound like they are having fun.
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@majorrage said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
Not a popular opinion on here but I think Willy Lose has been excellent when I’ve heard him
I enjoy his commentary. He's better at being the play by play than the colour commentator. Less time to think perhaps.
He does have a bad habit (like Sumo did) of having pre prepared linesHe does sound like he enjoys watching the rugby which is important.
The main Sky rugby commentators do not sound like they enjoy watching the game (well TJ enjoys watching a couple of teams..)
They don't have to be cheerleaders but the constant whining about the same topics can make listening a chore (yes I do switch to the refs mic often)Save the whining about rules, refs etc to the analysis shows during the week. Particularly given TJ/Nisbitt/Marshall constantly whine about the same thing each game. The same points over and over and over
The lower level NPC commentators, school rugby commentators, Japan Top League, Sean Maloney in Aus commentate the game in front of them and generally sound like they are having fun.
@duluth said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
@majorrage said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
Not a popular opinion on here but I think Willy Lose has been excellent when I’ve heard him
I enjoy his commentary. He's better at being the play by play than the colour commentator. Less time to think perhaps.
Almost word for word what I was about to post.
Don't mind Rikki Swannell too much.
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used to get all pissed off with commentaters but eventually worked out it gained nothing so have spent last few years just watching and enjoying the rugby. well not quite the truth am still known to tell justin marshell to shut up and fuck off
@ploughboy said in NZ Rugby Commentators:
used to get all pissed off with commentaters but eventually worked out it gained nothing so have spent last few years just watching and enjoying the rugby. well not quite the truth am still known to tell justin marshell to shut up and fuck off
'confidently incorrect' is our Justin
