European Club Rugby
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@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
Watched the Irish State of Origin.
Munster had Alby Mathewson and Tyler Bleyendaal as the reserve halves.
Leinster had James Lowe and Michael Bent. Lowe got himself a red card for taking a player out in the air - who landed on his head/neck.
Munster won, it was a gripping enough encounter, despite a lack of real attacking prowess.
But I'm no longer sitting on any high horse when it comes to NH rugby, because it's Ireland 2 NZ 1 in the last 3 tests.
Is that still a red? Didn't that change when they threw Angus under the bus?
@booboo said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
Watched the Irish State of Origin.
Munster had Alby Mathewson and Tyler Bleyendaal as the reserve halves.
Leinster had James Lowe and Michael Bent. Lowe got himself a red card for taking a player out in the air - who landed on his head/neck.
Munster won, it was a gripping enough encounter, despite a lack of real attacking prowess.
But I'm no longer sitting on any high horse when it comes to NH rugby, because it's Ireland 2 NZ 1 in the last 3 tests.
Is that still a red? Didn't that change when they threw Angus under the bus?
It was a red card - no debate from me. Lowe has a habit of losing his spatial awareness on high balls - didn’t do his team any favours. It was a feisty game with lots of hits, some lateish, and in your face aggression from Munster - Leinster couldn’t handle it on the night. Sexton got petulant, and Healy and Furlong got yellow cards. Not a good evening for the men in blue.
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@Billy-Tell It wasn't a state of origin match, it was Leinster Vs Munster in the Guinness Pro 12.......
https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/1229/1019516-munster-sink-14-man-leinster-in-bad-tempered-clash/
Doug Howlett is now Head of Commerical and Marketing at Muster now.
https://munsterrugby.ie/2017/09/01/howlett-appointed-head-of-commercial-and-marketing/
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell It wasn't a state of origin match, it was Leinster Vs Munster in the Guinness Pro 12.......
https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/1229/1019516-munster-sink-14-man-leinster-in-bad-tempered-clash/
I think he meant that Leinster v Munster matches have a great rivalry to them and are the best attended during the PRO14 season - 45,000 in the Aviva and 26,000 last night in Thomond.
Mind you, the Irish interpro derbies have been very good this Christmas with Ulster and Connacht doing well. The Leinster v Connacht match last week at the RDS was a 9-try humdinger with Leinster snatching the win after a 41-phase attack two minutes into the red.
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@sparky said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell It wasn't a state of origin match, it was Leinster Vs Munster in the Guinness Pro 12.......
https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/1229/1019516-munster-sink-14-man-leinster-in-bad-tempered-clash/
I think he meant that Leinster v Munster matches have a great rivalry to them and are the best attended during the PRO14 season - 45,000 in the Aviva and 26,000 last night in Thomond.
Mind you, the Irish interpro derbies have been very good this Christmas with Ulster and Connacht doing well. The Leinster v Connacht match last week at the RDS was a 9-try humdinger with Leinster snatching the win after a 41-phase attack two minutes into the red.
@Derm-McCrum Amazing to see how well attended Rugby matches are in Ireland and how passionate the crowds are.
The low attendance and all those empty seats at domestic Rugby matches in New Zealand have become embarrassing.
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@Derm-McCrum Amazing to see how well attended Rugby matches are in Ireland and how passionate the crowds are.
The low attendance and all those empty seats at domestic Rugby matches in New Zealand have become embarrassing.
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
@Derm-McCrum Amazing to see how well attended Rugby matches are in Ireland and how passionate the crowds are.
The low attendance and all those empty seats at domestic Rugby matches in New Zealand have become embarrassing.
Well in fairness, it is Christmas time so people are on holidays, festive spirit, middle of winter but good enough weather (mostly), and they are interprovincial derbies with lots of bragging rights and banter to be had.
The Irish provinces had about 564,000 (12,800 avg per match) through the gates last season for the PRO14 season - not counting the European Cup. If you exclude Connacht as the poor relation it’s 505k (14,900 avg) - don’t know how that compares to the NZ Super teams.
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@sparky said in NH club rugby:
@Derm-McCrum Amazing to see how well attended Rugby matches are in Ireland and how passionate the crowds are.
The low attendance and all those empty seats at domestic Rugby matches in New Zealand have become embarrassing.
Well in fairness, it is Christmas time so people are on holidays, festive spirit, middle of winter but good enough weather (mostly), and they are interprovincial derbies with lots of bragging rights and banter to be had.
The Irish provinces had about 564,000 (12,800 avg per match) through the gates last season for the PRO14 season - not counting the European Cup. If you exclude Connacht as the poor relation it’s 505k (14,900 avg) - don’t know how that compares to the NZ Super teams.
The best thing is that the grounds are the right size. NZ uses large stadia which are rarely full. Whereas the likes of the RDS are smaller which creates a much better atmosphere.
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The best thing is that the grounds are the right size. NZ uses large stadia which are rarely full. Whereas the likes of the RDS are smaller which creates a much better atmosphere.
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
The best thing is that the grounds are the right size. NZ uses large stadia which are rarely full. Whereas the likes of the RDS are smaller which creates a much better atmosphere.
True - although Connacht’s Sportsground is too small (8,000 max) and they’ve started the process of a redevelopment and expansion to 12,000.
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@Derm-McCrum Amazing to see how well attended Rugby matches are in Ireland and how passionate the crowds are.
The low attendance and all those empty seats at domestic Rugby matches in New Zealand have become embarrassing.
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
@Derm-McCrum Amazing to see how well attended Rugby matches are in Ireland and how passionate the crowds are.
The low attendance and all those empty seats at domestic Rugby matches in New Zealand have become embarrassing.
it's not just rugby. NZ has its best ever test cricket side, and there were 3 blokes and a dog watching on a nice Christchurch arvo as we destroyed the opposition. NZ people hate live sport.
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I wonder if he has an AB out clause?
Glasgow Warriors head coach Dave Rennie has agreed on a one-year contract extension at the club.
After initially joining on a two-year deal, Rennie was due to be out of contract at the end of the season but will now remain in his post until 2020.
Speaking to BBC Scotland ahead of Saturday’s match against Benetton, the New Zealander said: “I’m going to be here for at least another year and a half – possibly longer.
“It’s been really good. We’re happy, and my wife is happy, that’s the key.
“If I’m not here who is going to be running the show and contracting? It gives players clarity over who is going to be here.”
In his first season, Rennie guided Glasgow to the PRO14 semi-finals, and they currently top Conference A.
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I doubt Dave Rennie is in the running for the All Blacks job this time around. Staying on at Glasgow and being successful will help him secure a job with a European national side.
Ian Foster, Warren Gatland, Milton Haig, Jamie Joseph, Scott Robertson and Joe Schmidt are the contenders to take over from Steve Hansen.
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I doubt Dave Rennie is in the running for the All Blacks job this time around. Staying on at Glasgow and being successful will help him secure a job with a European national side.
Ian Foster, Warren Gatland, Milton Haig, Jamie Joseph, Scott Robertson and Joe Schmidt are the contenders to take over from Steve Hansen.
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
I doubt Dave Rennie is in the running for the All Blacks job this time around. Staying on at Glasgow and being successful will help him secure a job with a European national side.
He could have interest in an assistant role though? This contract wouldn't preclude him joining at the end of the European season like Smith did with Northampton in 2004.
There isn't really an obvious open role outside of England which will be filled after the bomb out of RWC.
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I wonder if he has an AB out clause?
Glasgow Warriors head coach Dave Rennie has agreed on a one-year contract extension at the club.
After initially joining on a two-year deal, Rennie was due to be out of contract at the end of the season but will now remain in his post until 2020.
Speaking to BBC Scotland ahead of Saturday’s match against Benetton, the New Zealander said: “I’m going to be here for at least another year and a half – possibly longer.
“It’s been really good. We’re happy, and my wife is happy, that’s the key.
“If I’m not here who is going to be running the show and contracting? It gives players clarity over who is going to be here.”
In his first season, Rennie guided Glasgow to the PRO14 semi-finals, and they currently top Conference A.
@Daffy-Jaffy said in NH club rugby:
I wonder if he has an AB out clause?
Glasgow Warriors head coach Dave Rennie has agreed on a one-year contract extension at the club.
After initially joining on a two-year deal, Rennie was due to be out of contract at the end of the season but will now remain in his post until 2020.
Speaking to BBC Scotland ahead of Saturday’s match against Benetton, the New Zealander said: “I’m going to be here for at least another year and a half – possibly longer.
“It’s been really good. We’re happy, and my wife is happy, that’s the key.
“If I’m not here who is going to be running the show and contracting? It gives players clarity over who is going to be here.”
In his first season, Rennie guided Glasgow to the PRO14 semi-finals, and they currently top Conference A.
Glasgow has now lost three games on the bounce, including the 1872 Cup to Edinburgh (again) and their loss to Benetton in Italy this weekend saw them knocked off top spot by Munster. Next two weeks are European Champions Cup games, at home to Cardiff and away to Saracens. They need to win both if they want to reach knockout stages. Tricky times ahead.
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@sparky said in NH club rugby:
I doubt Dave Rennie is in the running for the All Blacks job this time around. Staying on at Glasgow and being successful will help him secure a job with a European national side.
He could have interest in an assistant role though? This contract wouldn't preclude him joining at the end of the European season like Smith did with Northampton in 2004.
There isn't really an obvious open role outside of England which will be filled after the bomb out of RWC.
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I doubt Dave Rennie is in the running for the All Blacks job this time around. Staying on at Glasgow and being successful will help him secure a job with a European national side.
Ian Foster, Warren Gatland, Milton Haig, Jamie Joseph, Scott Robertson and Joe Schmidt are the contenders to take over from Steve Hansen.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in NH club rugby:
I wonder if he has an AB out clause?
Glasgow Warriors head coach Dave Rennie has agreed on a one-year contract extension at the club.
After initially joining on a two-year deal, Rennie was due to be out of contract at the end of the season but will now remain in his post until 2020.
Speaking to BBC Scotland ahead of Saturday’s match against Benetton, the New Zealander said: “I’m going to be here for at least another year and a half – possibly longer.
“It’s been really good. We’re happy, and my wife is happy, that’s the key.
“If I’m not here who is going to be running the show and contracting? It gives players clarity over who is going to be here.”
In his first season, Rennie guided Glasgow to the PRO14 semi-finals, and they currently top Conference A.
Glasgow has now lost three games on the bounce, including the 1872 Cup to Edinburgh (again) and their loss to Benetton in Italy this weekend saw them knocked off top spot by Munster. Next two weeks are European Champions Cup games, at home to Cardiff and away to Saracens. They need to win both if they want to reach knockout stages. Tricky times ahead.
@Derm-McCrum just watching the end of this - ref did everything in her power to try and get the "overdog" the win. Very reluctant to penalise several Glasgow offences now and then a weak penalty for a Treviso player not rolling away - when a Glasgow player was pretty much holding him in place.
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@sparky said in NH club rugby:
Ian Foster, Warren Gatland, Milton Haig, Jamie Joseph, Scott Robertson and Joe Schmidt are the contenders to take over from Steve Hansen.
Milton Haig? Deans would have a better chance
@Duluth Deans will back Scott Robertson this time around, but might be part of his coaching team.
Georgia have won the Rugby Europe International Championships in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2018 under Haig. Very much the outsider among the names I mentioned, but I could see him throw his hat into the ring later this year.
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Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.
Hold your horses.
CV first please.
Done sweet FA as far as I'm concerned.
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@sparky said in NH club rugby:
Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.
Hold your horses.
CV first please.
Done sweet FA as far as I'm concerned.
@MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.
Hold your horses.
CV first please.
Done sweet FA as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed, but look at the options. Head coach? Schmidt would be the obvious choice if he were still around but after that? Farrell is a likely contender for an assistant’s gig and after that I’m struggling.
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Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.
@sparky said in NH club rugby:
Gregor Townsend could be involved with the Lions tour to South Africa in 2021 which would open up a spot for Dave Rennie with Scotland.
Unlikely that would be anything more than a secondment for Townsend though - not sure how appealing the Scotland role is at all to be honest (Cotter walked away from it, best you can hope for is a series of well timed upsets). Getting a Scotland team with the best four players on Lions duty to tour around Fiji and Japan for a few weeks hardly sounds like worth hanging around for.
It really depends what Rennie's long term aspiration is. He hasn't followed the traditional path by any stretch - he could have written his own ticket in European club rugby as early as 2000 but did the IRANZ thing and waited a long time for his crack above NPC level.
It wouldn't shock me at all if Rennie would see an AB assistant role (dependent on the HC) as a better landing spot than grinding it out in the 6N. Caveat to all of this being if England bomb out and Eddie goes I could see anyone outside of Foster and Schmidt taking that role if offered. In most ways it is a better gig than being part of the ABs set up following the last 12 years.
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One hundred minute game and bath lose when down to 11 men.
As far as I was aware, if you are off with a yellow once time is up on the clock, you can't come back. Time is up, the extra time shown is not relevant. There's no injury time any more.
