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    Machpants
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    #1629

    Interestingly the bottom four teams of Eng Prem have 27 of 32 titles between them. How the mighty have fallen. Wasps playing their best team so far, Soapy can't even make the bench. Umaga to start at 10 - he can come back to NZ for the Canes, thanks.

    EDIT oh Sopoanga might be ill.

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      antipodean
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      Gloucester vs Worcester.

      The ref is bent. The match is a good argument for the TMO, correcting the ref from making an appalling decision on a try.

      Also, how is Ackerman not red carded? South Africans love raising an elbow into the tackle. I played in a game very early this year where a player got the snot flogged out of him for doing the same thing.

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        Stargazer
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        Haven't watched Premiership Rugby for a while. Now watching Leicester Tigers v Exeter Chiefs, and I'm surprised how often the ref just allows players diving into a ruck (clearly going off their feet). Breakdowns are really messy. Players living offside all the time, too.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Haven't watched Premiership Rugby for a while. Now watching Leicester Tigers v Exeter Chiefs, and I'm surprised how often the ref just allows players diving into a ruck (clearly going off their feet). Breakdowns are really messy. Players living offside all the time, too.

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          Steven Harris
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          @Stargazer just watched the Quinn’s v Wasps game..plenty of boarder line offsides in this game that were not call by Wayne Barnes..Fekitoa looks a shadow of the player he once was..

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            Ben Smith got a red card, this morning, in the game between Stade Francais and Pau.
            I'm watching Toulon v Clermont at the moment and the commentators said that Smith was "a bit unlucky". Did anyone see what happened?

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              Machpants
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              Taufua flattens Hogg, on debut I think

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                Taufua flattens Hogg, on debut I think

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                @Machpants Taufua had a great game, yesterday. Very dominant in that Tigers' pack, interestingly, playing in the 7 jersey.

                He was voted Fans' Player of the Match.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Ben Smith got a red card, this morning, in the game between Stade Francais and Pau.
                  I'm watching Toulon v Clermont at the moment and the commentators said that Smith was "a bit unlucky". Did anyone see what happened?

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                  @Stargazer https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/118403997/former-all-black-ben-smith-sent-off-on-debut-for-pau-in-french-top-14

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                    @Stargazer https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/118403997/former-all-black-ben-smith-sent-off-on-debut-for-pau-in-french-top-14

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                    @Toddy unlucky in that it happened - it was careless & not intentional, but not unlucky to get a red once it happened.

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                      Poor tackle technique too. Rugby is still struggling for the balance between protecting the head and the defenders responsibility.

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                        To me, that's not a red card; maybe a yellow.
                        It's similar to Kerevi being penalised (just a penalty) for doing the same (except that first contact was with the chest) against Wales.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Machpants Taufua had a great game, yesterday. Very dominant in that Tigers' pack, interestingly, playing in the 7 jersey.

                          He was voted Fans' Player of the Match.

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                          Nepia
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                          @Stargazer said in NH club rugby:

                          @Machpants Taufua had a great game, yesterday. Very dominant in that Tigers' pack, interestingly, playing in the 7 jersey.

                          He was voted Fans' Player of the Match.

                          He's finally playing openside?

                          Damn, that's a rough red on Smith, fair enough give him a yellow for being careless but it was hardly a deliberate act aiming to maim an opposition player and therefore worthy of a red.

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                            @Stargazer https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/118403997/former-all-black-ben-smith-sent-off-on-debut-for-pau-in-french-top-14

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                            @Toddy said in NH club rugby:

                            @Stargazer https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/118403997/former-all-black-ben-smith-sent-off-on-debut-for-pau-in-french-top-14

                            Yes, that's a RC. Too many players fending away from their body with a forearm. If you're going to do that above someone's shoulders, you have to accept responsibility.

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                              taniwharugby
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                              it looked part bracing for the hit and part fend...I can see why the red was issued, but reckon YC would have been sufficient.

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                                If a defender comes in that high and close to you, it is reflex to raise an arm. It's going to be tough to stop those cards as players aren't doing it deliberately and red cards are unlikely to prevent them doing it. The tackler has to go lower to avoid an impact like that. Yes I know the onus is on Smith to avoid that sort of contact but it is pretty harsh.

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                                  If a defender comes in that high and close to you, it is reflex to raise an arm. It's going to be tough to stop those cards as players aren't doing it deliberately and red cards are unlikely to prevent them doing it. The tackler has to go lower to avoid an impact like that. Yes I know the onus is on Smith to avoid that sort of contact but it is pretty harsh.

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                                  @Snowy said in NH club rugby:

                                  If a defender comes in that high and close to you, it is reflex to raise an arm. It's going to be tough to stop those cards as players aren't doing it deliberately and red cards are unlikely to prevent them doing it. The tackler has to go lower to avoid an impact like that. Yes I know the onus is on Smith to avoid that sort of contact but it is pretty harsh

                                  It pains me to say it. But I agree with Hooper here. Why is Smith being penalised to compensate for someone's awful tackle technique.

                                  If a player gets injured tackling like that they need to take some responsibility for their own actions

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                                    Kirwan
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                                    That's the stupidest red card decision I've seen in years. Weak sauce.

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                                      That's the stupidest red card decision I've seen in years. Weak sauce.

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                                      MiketheSnow
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                                      @Kirwan said in NH club rugby:

                                      That's the stupidest red card decision I've seen in years. Weak sauce.

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                                        @Kirwan said in NH club rugby:

                                        That's the stupidest red card decision I've seen in years. Weak sauce.

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                                        @MiketheSnow said in NH club rugby:

                                        @Kirwan said in NH club rugby:

                                        That's the stupidest red card decision I've seen in years. Weak sauce.

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                                        I'm not willing to say stupidest, because that is a packed field, but

                                        It's right up there with the softest.

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                                          Snowy
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                                          I've just watched that again. Smith is defending his own head from a clash due to the "defender" coming in high. I don't think a player should be held accountable for protecting himself. I guess it would be interesting if he had let it happen, would the other player have been red carded for a dangerous tackle?

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