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    Pat Lam will be leaving Connacht at the end of the season. He has signed with Bristol.

    http://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/pat-lam-appointed-as-head-coach/

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    @Stargazer said in NH club rugby:

    Pat Lam will be leaving Connacht at the end of the season. He has signed with Bristol.

    http://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/pat-lam-appointed-as-head-coach/

    Balls!

    €750k salary apparently! Irish Rugby cannot compete with those kind of numbers.

    Bundee Aki not happy about the announcement after signing a new two-year deal with the province a couple of months ago.

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      Just watching a bit of the Gloucester v La Rochelle match in the second tier Euro comp. Ricky Januarie at 9 for la Rochelle - fuck is he fat.

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        Northampton v Leinster

        Evenly matched contest until Hartley came on and promptly went off for a red card for swinging arm to the head.

        Just can't stop himself.

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          Only seen a short clip of the Hartley incident. I'm not sure he was aiming for the head (SOB was falling), but it looked at least reckless, and a red was inevitable. Ugly incident, but I sort of feel sorry for Hartley, if this signals that the exorcism has not been as permanent as it appeared to be until now. Eddie has George and Cowan Dickie (if uninjured?) for 6N, but if this incident heralds a return to Dylan v1.0 it would be a problem for Lions, although I didn't see him as Lions skipper as some pundits have touted.

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            Only seen a short clip of the Hartley incident. I'm not sure he was aiming for the head (SOB was falling), but it looked at least reckless, and a red was inevitable. Ugly incident, but I sort of feel sorry for Hartley, if this signals that the exorcism has not been as permanent as it appeared to be until now. Eddie has George and Cowan Dickie (if uninjured?) for 6N, but if this incident heralds a return to Dylan v1.0 it would be a problem for Lions, although I didn't see him as Lions skipper as some pundits have touted.

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            @Disgusted-of-TW I agree, it was a swinging arm tackle and he got what he deserved but it was only SOB falling that made it head high. Still a red in any event. If a lengthy ban ensues he can kiss his Lions chances goodbye, but in any event, like you I don't see him as skipper material, mainly because he is not nailed on first choice anyway. For the 6N we have fatty George, Tommy Taylor and the former mullet-boy Cowan-Dickie who must be coming back soon, so we should be OK hooker wise, but I think that Hartley has become something of a talisman for this England team particularly when the chips are down and we could miss his influence in this way.

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              For me, Hartley's unlucky. His arm was originally swinging well below the line of SOB's shoulders. Looking at the commentary online, he's being judged by history here.

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                For me, Hartley's unlucky. His arm was originally swinging well below the line of SOB's shoulders. Looking at the commentary online, he's being judged by history here.

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                @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                For me, Hartley's unlucky. His arm was originally swinging well below the line of SOB's shoulders. Looking at the commentary online, he's being judged by history here.

                I agree. The problem was that he was swinging in the first place.

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                  Thing is that if that was anyone else the credit they would get for it being more reckless than deliberate would probably make the ban quite short.
                  Because he will get no credit at all for good previous and get extra for repeat offending any other mitigating circumstances will get wiped.
                  He simply has to be extra clean given his past record. He knows that and so, obviously, does Eddie.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    For me, Hartley's unlucky. His arm was originally swinging well below the line of SOB's shoulders. Looking at the commentary online, he's being judged by history here.

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                    @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                    For me, Hartley's unlucky. His arm was originally swinging well below the line of SOB's shoulders. Looking at the commentary online, he's being judged by history here.

                    Which is only right and proper.

                    He had shown himself to be a consistent thug in his rugby career to date, so when viewing any of his actions that is the only prism to use. The idea that he was swinging his arm to do anything less than cause maximum damage is laughable; that's just the type of rugby player he is.

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                      Irish teams on fire so far this weekend. Ulster faded a bit against clermont but hung on at the end, but so far Munster just smothering leicester.

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                        Just watching European Champions Rugby show on Sky.
                        Brought up Hartley incident and his 'charge' sheet.
                        A total of 54 weeks banned from the game for eye gouging, biting, punching, elbowing, headbutting, verbally abusing the referee.
                        Doesn't include the anticipated 8-12 week ban for last night's brain explosion
                        Question asked was has this blown his chance of Lions place / captaincy?
                        My question is how the f*** is he still allowed to play rugby?
                        Hartley is a dirty, dirty repeat offender. The game is better off without him

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                          Awful talent spotting by the blues to let Nathan Hughes go.

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                            Kurtley beale Motm on debut for wasps.

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                              Kurtley beale Motm on debut for wasps.

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                              @Billy-Tell Did you watch the game Billy? Beale was solid and had a couple of very good moments but how he got MoTM ahead of Launchbury I don't know.

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                                @Billy-Tell Did you watch the game Billy? Beale was solid and had a couple of very good moments but how he got MoTM ahead of Launchbury I don't know.

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                                @Catogrande

                                Yep, I think Stuart Barnes has a low attention span and likes new shiny things. Beale was decent and unfortunate to be yellowed for a high shot. Launchbury was immense though. All over Connacht in the tight and took his try well.

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                                  @Billy-Tell Did you watch the game Billy? Beale was solid and had a couple of very good moments but how he got MoTM ahead of Launchbury I don't know.

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                                  @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                  @Billy-Tell Did you watch the game Billy? Beale was solid and had a couple of very good moments but how he got MoTM ahead of Launchbury I don't know.

                                  Yes, I did watch the game (all 4 games involving the irish provinces actually), and I share your opinion that Launchbury, or even the connacht 9 marmion were probably better.

                                  Wasps didn't really have to do too much - just watch the Connacht lineout implode and their goalkicker miss, and then they took well the few chances they created.

                                  wasps scrum was pretty poor though - leinster dodged a bullet by losing moore to wasps and keeping furlong.

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                                    @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                    @Billy-Tell Did you watch the game Billy? Beale was solid and had a couple of very good moments but how he got MoTM ahead of Launchbury I don't know.

                                    Yes, I did watch the game (all 4 games involving the irish provinces actually), and I share your opinion that Launchbury, or even the connacht 9 marmion were probably better.

                                    Wasps didn't really have to do too much - just watch the Connacht lineout implode and their goalkicker miss, and then they took well the few chances they created.

                                    wasps scrum was pretty poor though - leinster dodged a bullet by losing moore to wasps and keeping furlong.

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                                    @Billy-Tell Connacht were good all over the field except line-out, goal kicking and composure in the red zone. Cost them points in this fixture. Marmion was all class wasn't he?

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                                      @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                      @Billy-Tell Did you watch the game Billy? Beale was solid and had a couple of very good moments but how he got MoTM ahead of Launchbury I don't know.

                                      Yes, I did watch the game (all 4 games involving the irish provinces actually), and I share your opinion that Launchbury, or even the connacht 9 marmion were probably better.

                                      Wasps didn't really have to do too much - just watch the Connacht lineout implode and their goalkicker miss, and then they took well the few chances they created.

                                      wasps scrum was pretty poor though - leinster dodged a bullet by losing moore to wasps and keeping furlong.

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                                      @Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:

                                      @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                      @Billy-Tell Did you watch the game Billy? Beale was solid and had a couple of very good moments but how he got MoTM ahead of Launchbury I don't know.

                                      Yes, I did watch the game (all 4 games involving the irish provinces actually), and I share your opinion that Launchbury, or even the connacht 9 marmion were probably better.

                                      Wasps didn't really have to do too much - just watch the Connacht lineout implode and their goalkicker miss, and then they took well the few chances they created.

                                      wasps scrum was pretty poor though - leinster dodged a bullet by losing moore to wasps and keeping furlong.

                                      His agent, of course, believed Ireland was losing the best TH in the country. Not many people agreed.

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                                        @Billy-Tell Connacht were good all over the field except line-out, goal kicking and composure in the red zone. Cost them points in this fixture. Marmion was all class wasn't he?

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                                        @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                        @Billy-Tell Connacht were good all over the field except line-out, goal kicking and composure in the red zone. Cost them points in this fixture. Marmion was all class wasn't he?

                                        Marion is improving by the game which is great to see some possible depth appearing at 9 - Ireland are paper thin beyond Murray.
                                        Don't know if it's just me but I think Aki has gone off he boil completely this season and looks disgruntled out on the pitch. The recent news about Lam's departure probably hasn't helped either. He's just signed himself up to a 2-year extension with Connacht in April, but I get the feeling that he'd prefer to be elsewhere. He doesn't look happy at all.

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                                          @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                          @Billy-Tell Connacht were good all over the field except line-out, goal kicking and composure in the red zone. Cost them points in this fixture. Marmion was all class wasn't he?

                                          Marion is improving by the game which is great to see some possible depth appearing at 9 - Ireland are paper thin beyond Murray.
                                          Don't know if it's just me but I think Aki has gone off he boil completely this season and looks disgruntled out on the pitch. The recent news about Lam's departure probably hasn't helped either. He's just signed himself up to a 2-year extension with Connacht in April, but I get the feeling that he'd prefer to be elsewhere. He doesn't look happy at all.

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                                          @Pot-Hale Odd that PH. Aki seems to be revered in Connacht and life in Galway cannot be all bad as it is a lovely, friendly city.

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