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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • BonesB Bones

    @mn5 they will probably need it to, been drizzly, windy and struggling to get over 11 degrees for what seems like a month now.

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    @bones said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 they will probably need it to, been drizzly, windy and struggling to get over 11 degrees for what seems like a month now.

    It’ll be like playing at the Basin then. Sweet

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    • MN5M MN5

      @bones said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @mn5 they will probably need it to, been drizzly, windy and struggling to get over 11 degrees for what seems like a month now.

      It’ll be like playing at the Basin then. Sweet

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      @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @bones said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @mn5 they will probably need it to, been drizzly, windy and struggling to get over 11 degrees for what seems like a month now.

      It’ll be like playing at the Basin then. Sweet

      I don't know how you did it but you actually made me miss Wellington weather..

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        Report from someone with the team in Southampton is apparently cold and wet. May in England baby

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          Report from someone with the team in Southampton is apparently cold and wet. May in England baby

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          @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          Report from someone with the team in Southampton is apparently cold and wet. May in England baby

          On a walk yesterday I was regretting not wearing gloves. The wind this week has brought me back home.

          Figuratively.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            Report from someone with the team in Southampton is apparently cold and wet. May in England baby

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            @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            Report from someone with the team in Southampton is apparently cold and wet. May in England baby

            Indians won't like the cold. As long as it dries out. Is a green top too much to ask for?

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            • MN5M MN5

              Is there any contingencies just in case the weather is shite ? How crap would it be if it ended up in a draw ?

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              @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              Is there any contingencies just in case the weather is shite ? How crap would it be if it ended up in a draw ?

              There is one reserve day available to make up for lost time due to rain etc

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              • sharkS shark

                @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                Hope for better luck than the last final...

                A mate of mine in London didn't have any luck in the final ballot and nor did anyone he knows. Plus he got the boot from one of the England tests.

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                @shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                Hope for better luck than the last final...

                A mate of mine in London didn't have any luck in the final ballot and nor did anyone he knows. Plus he got the boot from one of the England tests.

                Got the boot?

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                • TeWaioT TeWaio

                  @shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                  Hope for better luck than the last final...

                  A mate of mine in London didn't have any luck in the final ballot and nor did anyone he knows. Plus he got the boot from one of the England tests.

                  Got the boot?

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                  @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  @shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                  Hope for better luck than the last final...

                  A mate of mine in London didn't have any luck in the final ballot and nor did anyone he knows. Plus he got the boot from one of the England tests.

                  Got the boot?

                  I lost my place at Lords when they cancelled all spectator tickets and reallocated the reduced capacity to MCC members only. A mate got 4 tickets in the WTC ballot so I’m there on the Saturday. Is that Day 2?

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @nzzp said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    Report from someone with the team in Southampton is apparently cold and wet. May in England baby

                    Indians won't like the cold. As long as it dries out. Is a green top too much to ask for?

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                    @canefan are there no Punjabi in the current team? It can get down to zero there..

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                      Failed in the ballot as well and have been keeping an eye on via-gogo etc. Still nothing.

                      June is supposed to finally be very nice weather wise, so fingers crossed for that. May has been wet as anything after a cold, but clear, April.

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                      • scribeS scribe

                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                        Hope for better luck than the last final...

                        A mate of mine in London didn't have any luck in the final ballot and nor did anyone he knows. Plus he got the boot from one of the England tests.

                        Got the boot?

                        I lost my place at Lords when they cancelled all spectator tickets and reallocated the reduced capacity to MCC members only. A mate got 4 tickets in the WTC ballot so I’m there on the Saturday. Is that Day 2?

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                        @scribe said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                        Hope for better luck than the last final...

                        A mate of mine in London didn't have any luck in the final ballot and nor did anyone he knows. Plus he got the boot from one of the England tests.

                        Got the boot?

                        I lost my place at Lords when they cancelled all spectator tickets and reallocated the reduced capacity to MCC members only. A mate got 4 tickets in the WTC ballot so I’m there on the Saturday. Is that Day 2?

                        Ah that sucks, at least you've got Day 2 in Southampton though. I didn't realise it was only 4000 spectators so the ballot must've been very long odds.

                        I've managed to wangle an invite through work to Day 1 of the Lords test next week as well, hopefully the weather improves.

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                          Just remembered that I need to sign up for Spark sports again to get the England tests.

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                            England's Ben Foakes ruled out of the NZ Test series after slipping on dressing room floor in socks and tearing hamstring.

                            It sees Haseeb Hameed (!) and Sam Billings added to the squad as cover and James Bracey set to make a Test debut next week behind the stumps

                            ...lol

                            tech issues

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                            https://twitter.com/Cricket_Ali/status/1397522910697361408

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                              These were the teams that played on day 1 of the inter-squad match overnight:

                              Latham XI: Tom Latham (captain), Devon Conway, Tom Blundell, Ross Taylor, Colin de Grandhomme, Kyle Jamieson, Doug Bracewell, Matt Henry, Ajaz Patel, John Turner (local), George Harding (local).
                              Williamson XI: Will Young, Rachin Ravindra, Kane Williamson (captain), Henry Nicholls, BJ Watling, Daryl Mitchell, Mitchell Santner, Tim Southee, Neil Wagner, Jacob Duffy, Ajeet Dale (local).

                              Conway and Blundell in the same team.

                              Latham XI posted 289-6
                              Conway 55*
                              de Grandhomme 54*
                              Bracewell 50*

                              Wagner, 2-18 from 15 overs
                              Southee, 2-25 from 14 overs
                              Ravindra, 2-39 from 10 overs

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                                Some info about the final:

                                When is the WTC final and where?
                                From June 18-22 in Southampton.

                                What type of ball will be used?
                                Not only will they be playing at a neutral venue, governed by neutral match officials, but India and New Zealand will also utilise a neutral ball - Dukes, which is used for first-class cricket in England. Usually, India play at home with the SG Test while New Zealand operate with the Kookaburra. The Dukes conventionally has been found favourable by bowlers for its rich seam and even got a thumbs up from Indian captain Virat Kohli as well R Ashwin in the recent past.

                                What happens in case of a draw/tie/match being abandoned?
                                In case of each of those scenarios, both teams will be declared joint-winners.

                                How do you determine a draw?
                                If less than 60 minutes have been accounted for as lost playing time and there is no result in sight at the end of the fifth day, then teams can agree for a draw.

                                What is lost playing time?
                                If there are more than 60 minutes of lost playing time, then those overs would be bowled from the start of the Actual Last Hour. The close of play would accordingly be rescheduled to 60 minutes from the start of the lost playing time. If there is any interruption during this period, then an over would be cut every four minutes. Any time lost due to interruption during the rescheduled period would be added to the reserve day.

                                Is there a reserve day?
                                Yes, June 23 will be the reserve day. The sixth day will comprise maximum of 330 minutes or 83 overs plus the actual last hour. The reserve day will kick in only if the time lost during regulation play on each day is not made up on the same day. For example, if you lose an hour of play due to rain and then make it up by the end of the same day, then that is zero net time lost. But if you lose an entire day's play due to rain and then make up, say, only three hours over the remaining four days, then you are short of net playing time for the match. That is when the reserve day kicks in.

                                What is the prize money for the finalists?
                                The prize money will be announced in due course. At the 2019 World Cup, winners England pocketed US$ 4 million while runners-up New Zealand took home half that amount. The losing semi-finalists took home US$ 800,000 each. At the 2016 men's World T20, winners West Indies cashed in US$ 1.6 million while runners-up England took home US$ 800,000. The losing semi-finalists picked US$ 400,000 each.

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                                  Oh and a wee reminder the 2 tests vs England start this Wednesday.👌

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                                  • SiamS Siam

                                    Some info about the final:

                                    When is the WTC final and where?
                                    From June 18-22 in Southampton.

                                    What type of ball will be used?
                                    Not only will they be playing at a neutral venue, governed by neutral match officials, but India and New Zealand will also utilise a neutral ball - Dukes, which is used for first-class cricket in England. Usually, India play at home with the SG Test while New Zealand operate with the Kookaburra. The Dukes conventionally has been found favourable by bowlers for its rich seam and even got a thumbs up from Indian captain Virat Kohli as well R Ashwin in the recent past.

                                    What happens in case of a draw/tie/match being abandoned?
                                    In case of each of those scenarios, both teams will be declared joint-winners.

                                    How do you determine a draw?
                                    If less than 60 minutes have been accounted for as lost playing time and there is no result in sight at the end of the fifth day, then teams can agree for a draw.

                                    What is lost playing time?
                                    If there are more than 60 minutes of lost playing time, then those overs would be bowled from the start of the Actual Last Hour. The close of play would accordingly be rescheduled to 60 minutes from the start of the lost playing time. If there is any interruption during this period, then an over would be cut every four minutes. Any time lost due to interruption during the rescheduled period would be added to the reserve day.

                                    Is there a reserve day?
                                    Yes, June 23 will be the reserve day. The sixth day will comprise maximum of 330 minutes or 83 overs plus the actual last hour. The reserve day will kick in only if the time lost during regulation play on each day is not made up on the same day. For example, if you lose an hour of play due to rain and then make it up by the end of the same day, then that is zero net time lost. But if you lose an entire day's play due to rain and then make up, say, only three hours over the remaining four days, then you are short of net playing time for the match. That is when the reserve day kicks in.

                                    What is the prize money for the finalists?
                                    The prize money will be announced in due course. At the 2019 World Cup, winners England pocketed US$ 4 million while runners-up New Zealand took home half that amount. The losing semi-finalists took home US$ 800,000 each. At the 2016 men's World T20, winners West Indies cashed in US$ 1.6 million while runners-up England took home US$ 800,000. The losing semi-finalists picked US$ 400,000 each.

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                                    @siam thanks fella,

                                    that is the most complex explanation of a reserve day I have seen.

                                    Why don't they just say 'we're going to have 30 hours of cricket/450 overs'

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @siam thanks fella,

                                      that is the most complex explanation of a reserve day I have seen.

                                      Why don't they just say 'we're going to have 30 hours of cricket/450 overs'

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                                      @nzzp i can't believe they canned the boundary count back clause!!

                                      That was worth a cool 2 million US !!

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                                        Due to injuries and the ECB's stated policy of rest and rotation, England's 16-man squad to take on New Zealand features a number of players at the start of their Test careers. Three are uncapped, with at least two likely to make their debuts over the next couple of weeks, while seven members of the group have played five Tests or fewer.
                                        

                                        https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/eng-vs-nz-2021-ollie-robinson-james-bracey-craig-overton-meet-the-england-new-boys-1264563

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                                          AT A GLANCE

                                          First cricket test at Lord’s, London, day one Wednesday 10pm (NZT):

                                          England (from): Rory Burns, Dom Sibley, Zak Crawley, Joe Root (captain), Ollie Pope, Dan Lawrence, James Bracey, Craig Overton, Ollie Robinson, Olly Stone, Mark Wood, Jack Leach, Stuart Broad, James Anderson.

                                          New Zealand: Tom Latham, Devon Conway, Kane Williamson (captain), Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, BJ Watling, Colin de Grandhomme, Mitchell Santner, Kyle Jamieson, Tim Southee, Neil Wagner, Matt Henry (one to be omitted).

                                          TAB odds: England $1.85, NZ $2.80, draw $4.80

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