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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    7* in the session, I think, for the No. 1 batsman in the world.

    Still 25 wickets standing in this test and five sessions to play - so a result needs an average of five wickets per session.

    Given the batsmen we have left in this innings, there's a fair chance we will lose five in the next session, but hopefully we'll score more than 34 in doing so.

    Then the Indian top order will have the rest of the day to negotiate.

    To quote Little orphan Annie - the sun'll come out tomorrow....might not be quite as tough.

    https://retro.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Southampton/hour_by_hour.html

    Yep, the silver lining of being bowled out today is India will have to bat when the ball is doing plenty. If Kohli and Kane are struggling, and I mean genuinely struggling to score runs despite getting set, then that's a pretty fair indicator that conditions are extremely difficult.

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    @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    7* in the session, I think, for the No. 1 batsman in the world.

    Still 25 wickets standing in this test and five sessions to play - so a result needs an average of five wickets per session.

    Given the batsmen we have left in this innings, there's a fair chance we will lose five in the next session, but hopefully we'll score more than 34 in doing so.

    Then the Indian top order will have the rest of the day to negotiate.

    To quote Little orphan Annie - the sun'll come out tomorrow....might not be quite as tough.

    https://retro.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Southampton/hour_by_hour.html

    Yep, the silver lining of being bowled out today is India will have to bat when the ball is doing plenty. If Kohli and Kane are struggling, and I mean genuinely struggling to score runs despite getting set, then that's a pretty fair indicator that conditions are extremely difficult.

    Kohli and Rahane showed that there was something there for the batsmen, however the conditions are somewhat changing.

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    • K kev

      @gt12 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @gt12 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      Everyone who was fucking on about us 'coming out of the gate strong' should fuck off to bed.

      Like you've never been a Blackcaps supporter.

      The simple truth is that we are like an Oakland As Moneyball team - collectively over time we can do some good things, but when it counts in one game, we still have very few truly world class players who can and will handle the pressure.

      Completely disagree. The team is littered with world class players. We did enough to win the CWC which is the biggest stage of all, and bar one test series we've been consistently outstanding for a few years now.

      Our innings right now is almost identical to India's. You just can't get in on this pitch no matter how long you are out there, so a collapse is always imminent. Like us, India have a world class attack so batting is really a battle of attrition and luck.

      We're putting up a good fight, and the fact we are deep into the test with all 3 results possible shows how tight it is.

      Great, and agreed, but that was not the talk last night and this morning.

      I'm specifically referring to the arrogance of thinking that we would run over this Indian team, who as you point out, also have an excellent attack.

      I also don't think that we have consistent performers btw - the stats on Nicholl's with chances versus without have already pointed that out.

      I'm so fucked off with the coaches for not strengthening the batting.

      The CDG decision is the key. I though he would be better with the ball but don’t trust his batting. Still roll the dice…maybe good to have one player who hits through the line and rides his luck. If he fiddles around I don’t think he has the technique on this pitch.

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      @kev said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @gt12 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @gt12 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      Everyone who was fucking on about us 'coming out of the gate strong' should fuck off to bed.

      Like you've never been a Blackcaps supporter.

      The simple truth is that we are like an Oakland As Moneyball team - collectively over time we can do some good things, but when it counts in one game, we still have very few truly world class players who can and will handle the pressure.

      Completely disagree. The team is littered with world class players. We did enough to win the CWC which is the biggest stage of all, and bar one test series we've been consistently outstanding for a few years now.

      Our innings right now is almost identical to India's. You just can't get in on this pitch no matter how long you are out there, so a collapse is always imminent. Like us, India have a world class attack so batting is really a battle of attrition and luck.

      We're putting up a good fight, and the fact we are deep into the test with all 3 results possible shows how tight it is.

      Great, and agreed, but that was not the talk last night and this morning.

      I'm specifically referring to the arrogance of thinking that we would run over this Indian team, who as you point out, also have an excellent attack.

      I also don't think that we have consistent performers btw - the stats on Nicholl's with chances versus without have already pointed that out.

      I'm so fucked off with the coaches for not strengthening the batting.

      The CDG decision is the key. I though he would be better with the ball but don’t trust his batting. Still roll the dice…maybe good to have one player who hits through the line and rides his luck. If he fiddles around I don’t think he has the technique on this pitch.

      A few decisions for India, as well.

      With the new ball just 8 overs away, do they continue with the seamers immediately after lunch or give the spinners a short crack?

      They've bowled 23 overs between them - will be 31 by the time the new ball gets here - if they take it.

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        That little block of 8 overs was more productive!

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          That was worth a review I thought, but probably umpires call at worst for impact

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            CdG gone. Shami is bowling with excellent discipline.

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            • TeWaioT TeWaio

              Watling missed a straight one, didn't look like it did much.

              CDG won't survive more than 30 balls, so I'd rather he plays trying to get >50 runs than <10.

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              @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              Watling missed a straight one, didn't look like it did much.

              CDG won't survive more than 30 balls, so I'd rather he plays trying to get >50 runs than <10.

              Well I called this!!!!

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                That was worth a review I thought, but probably umpires call at worst for impact

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                @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                That was worth a review I thought, but probably umpires call at worst for impact

                Good non-review in the end.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  That was worth a review I thought, but probably umpires call at worst for impact

                  Good non-review in the end.

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                  @kiwimurph said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  That was worth a review I thought, but probably umpires call at worst for impact

                  Good non-review in the end.

                  Yeah, though we wouldn't have lost the review.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    That was worth a review I thought, but probably umpires call at worst for impact

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                    @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                    That was worth a review I thought, but probably umpires call at worst for impact

                    Caught in his crease and hit the back leg.

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                      Ajaz might not have done any worse with the bat or ball.

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        Ajaz might not have done any worse with the bat or ball.

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                        @donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        Ajaz might would not have done any worse with the bat or ball.

                        FIFY. Colin is like a mirage at this point

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                          Kylo getting his drive on

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            Kylo getting his drive on

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                            @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                            Kylo getting his drive on

                            The youngest man in the team is left to help show the others the way

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              Kylo getting his drive on

                              The youngest man in the team is left to help show the others the way

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                              @canefan sounds like Zarn....

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                                Kyle’s height and reach enabling him to drive with confidence.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @canefan sounds like Zarn....

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                                  @kiwimurph said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @canefan sounds like Zarn....

                                  Who?

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @kiwimurph said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    @canefan sounds like Zarn....

                                    Who?

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                                    @canefan FABZS

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @canefan FABZS

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                                      @kiwimurph said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      @canefan FABZS

                                      Who?

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                                        Kyle is not going to die wondering

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                                          How many boundaries have been in front of the wicket this innings? Surely less than 5. Look impossible to even get it off the square.

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