Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

[canefan]

@paekakboyz said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Well done that man! I flaked just after midnight and he was looking good. Beyond stoked that he has dominated on debut, and well done on selecting him NZC.

Hard on Blundell but he will slot into BJ's position as keeper batsmen when BJ retires. A guy that can keep well and stood up with the bat against the might of Oz in Oz. We are spoiled right now

[canefan]

@tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@majorrage tomorrow! In the media center box as well woo

Is that the UFO thing? I notice they have built a couple of stands either side now so it doesn't look quite as prominent

[MN5]

@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Ok, I'm going to say it.

Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019

There, I've said it (nervous gulp)

I think a future batting order of:

1. Latham
2. Young
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Nicholls
6. Blundell

... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.

We’ll see, Conway seems to like opening so far !

[MN5]

@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

[Virgil]

@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

Definitely 2, soon to be 3

[Crucial]

@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Ok, I'm going to say it.

Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019

There, I've said it (nervous gulp)

I think a future batting order of:

1. Latham
2. Young
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Nicholls
6. Blundell

... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.

Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.

If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?

The optimist in me wants to see Ross go out on top with a leading innings in the test championship.

[canefan]

@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Ok, I'm going to say it.

Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019

There, I've said it (nervous gulp)

I think a future batting order of:

1. Latham
2. Young
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Nicholls
6. Blundell

... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.

We’ll see, Conway seems to like opening so far !

He can play wherever he wants

[antipodean]

@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9644785/England-cricket-debutant-Ollie-Robinsons-historic-racist-sexist-tweets-emerge.html

Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.

[canefan]

@antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9644785/England-cricket-debutant-Ollie-Robinsons-historic-racist-sexist-tweets-emerge.html

Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.

Hang him high. I mean it's not like any of us did or said stupid shit when we were 18...

[MN5]

@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him

Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !

1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*

Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.

Definitely 2, soon to be 3

Signs are good so far.

[mariner4life]

incredible. Kane and Rossco score fuck all and we still have a good day.

[Crucial]

@antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9644785/England-cricket-debutant-Ollie-Robinsons-historic-racist-sexist-tweets-emerge.html

Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.

Imagine having to read through that many years of tweets to dig for dirt.

[dogmeat]

Got to have a lot of sympathy for Robinson. Should have come off the field expecting to be asked about what was a reasonable test debut. Instead he was ambushed by the Mail and had to read a cringeworthy apology. For what? A few puerile adolescent attempts at humour that are tamer than the sort of thing Jeremy Clarkson regularly said on prime time TV!

Not meant as an apology for racism/sexism at all and the tweets were certainly embarrassing but FFS Daily Mail.

[MN5]

@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Ok, I'm going to say it.

Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019

There, I've said it (nervous gulp)

I think a future batting order of:

1. Latham
2. Young
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Nicholls
6. Blundell

... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.

Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.

If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?

The optimist in me wants to see Ross go out on top with a leading innings in the test championship.

Dunno about that, KW is the senior player and tends to go ok at 3. Mind you Lara and Ponting tended to switch between those positions from memory. Cricinfo tells me that Tendulkar never batted 3 and KW has only batted 4 twice.

In terms of potential and proven performers that top six could be even better than what we have currently though.

[Chris B.]

@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Ok, I'm going to say it.

Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019

There, I've said it (nervous gulp)

I think a future batting order of:

1. Latham
2. Young
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Nicholls
6. Blundell

... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.

Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.

If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?

They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.

From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.

Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.

[Daffy Jaffy]

[Daffy Jaffy]

[shark]

@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Ok, I'm going to say it.

Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019

There, I've said it (nervous gulp)

I think a future batting order of:

1. Latham
2. Young
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Nicholls
6. Blundell

... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.

Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.

If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?

They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.

From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.

Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.

Thoroughly agree re Rosco. He should have to bang Steads' nana in order to get dropped, such is his right to be there.

Boult isn't available until the WTC final.

[Crucial]

Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?

[Chris B.]

@shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

Boult isn't available until the WTC final.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/125306498/black-caps-v-england-trent-boult-keen-for-return-in-second-test-as-he-departs-for-uk

Seems to be mixed stories about that.