Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final
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@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him
Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !
1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him
Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !
1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.
Definitely 2, soon to be 3
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@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
The optimist in me wants to see Ross go out on top with a leading innings in the test championship.
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
We’ll see, Conway seems to like opening so far !
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
We’ll see, Conway seems to like opening so far !
He can play wherever he wants
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The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
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@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
@antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
Hang him high. I mean it's not like any of us did or said stupid shit when we were 18...
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@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him
Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !
1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.
Definitely 2, soon to be 3
@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@cyclops said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Conway is absurd. Everything looks so easy for him
Amazingly ( well, to me at least ) he’s the twelfth BC to get a ton on debut. That seems like an awful lot of players !
1930 - J E Mills - 117 vs England
1965 - Bruce Taylor - 105 vs India (took a 5 wi as well, only time in Test history this has happened)
1973 - Rodney Redmond - 107 vs Pakistan
1988 - Mark 'Paddy' Greatbatch - 107* vs England
1999 - Matthew Sinclair - 214 vs West Indies
2001 - Lou Vincent - 104 vs Australia
2002 - Scott Styris - 107 vs West Indies
2010 - Kane Williamson - 131 vs India
2013 - Hamish Rutherford - 171 vs England
2014 - James Neesham - 137* vs India
2017 - Tom Blundell - 107* vs West Indies
2021 - Devon Conway - 136 vs England*Only one all timer on that list, possibly two.
Definitely 2, soon to be 3
Signs are good so far.
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incredible. Kane and Rossco score fuck all and we still have a good day.
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@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
@antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
Imagine having to read through that many years of tweets to dig for dirt.
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Got to have a lot of sympathy for Robinson. Should have come off the field expecting to be asked about what was a reasonable test debut. Instead he was ambushed by the Mail and had to read a cringeworthy apology. For what? A few puerile adolescent attempts at humour that are tamer than the sort of thing Jeremy Clarkson regularly said on prime time TV!
Not meant as an apology for racism/sexism at all and the tweets were certainly embarrassing but FFS Daily Mail.
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
The optimist in me wants to see Ross go out on top with a leading innings in the test championship.
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
The optimist in me wants to see Ross go out on top with a leading innings in the test championship.
Dunno about that, KW is the senior player and tends to go ok at 3. Mind you Lara and Ponting tended to switch between those positions from memory. Cricinfo tells me that Tendulkar never batted 3 and KW has only batted 4 twice.
In terms of potential and proven performers that top six could be even better than what we have currently though.
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
The optimist in me wants to see Ross go out on top with a leading innings in the test championship.
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.
From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.
Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.
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@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.
From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.
Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.
@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.
From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.
Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.
Thoroughly agree re Rosco. He should have to bang Steads' nana in order to get dropped, such is his right to be there.
Boult isn't available until the WTC final.
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@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Ok, I'm going to say it.
Ross Taylor is past it. Great career but the body can't cope ( eyes, reflexes etc). Think Keiran Read in 2019
There, I've said it (nervous gulp)
I think a future batting order of:
- Latham
- Young
- Williamson
- Conway
- Nicholls
- Blundell
... isn't many seasons away. Unfortunately for Ross.
Swap 3 and 4 around I think.
This was always going to be Roscoe's last hurrah. Let's hope your Reado analogy isn't accurate.If he doesn't produce form in these two tests will they have the balls to drop him or will the lack of play for Blundell count? Will be interesting. Maybe Blundell gets a go next test?
They won't drop Rossco and nor should they. He got 70 vs Pakistan late last year, so he's not in the Geoff Howarth and his seeing eye dog category just yet.
From Stead's comments about liking to play a spinner, I suspect we will see Boult come in for CdG for the WTC game - or hopefully before if he's available for the 2nd test vs England.
Santner odds on to make the XI unless England slaughter him.
Thoroughly agree re Rosco. He should have to bang Steads' nana in order to get dropped, such is his right to be there.
Boult isn't available until the WTC final.
@shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Boult isn't available until the WTC final.
Seems to be mixed stories about that.
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@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?
The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd
@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?
The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd
Don't think it was one mic at one end though. All of Conway's shots sounded tinny or like there was a slight crack in the bat. The other bats sounded normal.
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@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?
The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd
Don't think it was one mic at one end though. All of Conway's shots sounded tinny or like there was a slight crack in the bat. The other bats sounded normal.
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Why does Conway's bat sound like it's made of aluminium?
The pitch mic sounds off the bat were odd
Don't think it was one mic at one end though. All of Conway's shots sounded tinny or like there was a slight crack in the bat. The other bats sounded normal.
I did hear that crack sound. Weird
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@antipodean said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
The Daily Mail have found some racist and sexist tweets by Ollie Robinson (from 9 years ago when he was 18) that the ECB won't be happy about:
Fucking hell, we're setting ourselves a pretty low bar for outrage these days aren't we.
Imagine having to read through that many years of tweets to dig for dirt.
@crucial There's software that will do that for you. This won't be the last time we see a young athlete caught out like this. Touring teams to the UK in any sport in the future will need to be briefed about editting their personal social media accounts. Anything players leave on social media is fair game for the mainstream media in the same way as if they said it in a press conference.
Ollie Robinson has apologised unreservedly. He has deleted the offending messages. There is no evidence they are reflective of the person he is today. He might still face a fine and possibly even a short ban for breech of the ECB code of conduct.
I thought Ollie Robinson bowled wonderfully yesterday without much reward. I think England have found their replacement for Jimmy Anderson.
