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  • sharkS Offline
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    Apologies if this has been mentioned but the Aussie teams are all out of the running for the final if they lose again this weekend.

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    • sharkS shark

      Apologies if this has been mentioned but the Aussie teams are all out of the running for the final if they lose again this weekend.

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      @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      Apologies if this has been mentioned but the Aussie teams are all out of the running for the final if they lose again this weekend.

      I suspect the only Aussies in the final of this competition will be match officials.

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        @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        Apologies if this has been mentioned but the Aussie teams are all out of the running for the final if they lose again this weekend.

        I suspect the only Aussies in the final of this competition will be match officials.

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        @sparky yeah, likely.

        I've mentioned it before, but let's say it's the Crusaders vs the Chiefs again, or any two Kiwi sides what is the point???

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        • M Offline
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          It sound odd but the aussie teams have the ability to compete they just don't seem to have the confidence to follow their gameplan. If one team can beat somebody this year I wouldn't be surprised if it changes all of the aussie teams.

          It's just unfortunate that the force or brumbies couldn't pip the kiwis in the first round. It definitely dented some confidence...

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            There is a very real possibility that a NZ team is undefeated but still doesn't make the final. That's why BPs are so important. Still 3 rounds to go though.

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              https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/we-have-to-beat-the-best-ra-won-t-retreat-from-trans-tasman-rugby-20210523-p57uf1.html

              McLennan won’t shy away from trans- Ta$man rugby next year. In fact, he wants the same competition structure in 2022.
              
              “They’re disappointing results but I’m unfazed with regards to our mission. If we want to be the world’s best, we have to beat the world’s best. And New Zealand has the best provincial rugby sides in the world,” McLennan told the Herald.
              
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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                There is a very real possibility that a NZ team is undefeated but still doesn't make the final. That's why BPs are so important. Still 3 rounds to go though.

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                @bovidae said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                There is a very real possibility that a NZ team is undefeated but still doesn't make the final. That's why BPs are so important. Still 3 rounds to go though.

                Yeah. It's pretty crazy that you can be unbeaten and have a +22 points difference after two games and be 5th on the table.

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                  Well, the Crusaders will go unbeaten, so of the remaining games which wouldn't be considered huge upsets if the Oz team won, which looks hardest?

                  Reds at Home (this week, Chiefs)
                  Reds at Home (next week, Blues)
                  Brumbies at home (next week, Canes)
                  Brumbies at home (June 11, Landers)

                  None of this is to not say that the Rebels or Tahs couldn't trip up someone at home (like the fucking Chiefs) or that the Force couldn't steal one away, but, of those games, which look most likely?

                  I'd say next week Brumbies/Canes and this week Reds/Chiefs (Saders did the Chiefs no favors last week) look the most likely.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    Well, the Crusaders will go unbeaten, so of the remaining games which wouldn't be considered huge upsets if the Oz team won, which looks hardest?

                    Reds at Home (this week, Chiefs)
                    Reds at Home (next week, Blues)
                    Brumbies at home (next week, Canes)
                    Brumbies at home (June 11, Landers)

                    None of this is to not say that the Rebels or Tahs couldn't trip up someone at home (like the fucking Chiefs) or that the Force couldn't steal one away, but, of those games, which look most likely?

                    I'd say next week Brumbies/Canes and this week Reds/Chiefs (Saders did the Chiefs no favors last week) look the most likely.

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                    @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

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                      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

                      You're going to the game, right?

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        Well, the Crusaders will go unbeaten, so of the remaining games which wouldn't be considered huge upsets if the Oz team won, which looks hardest?

                        Reds at Home (this week, Chiefs)
                        Reds at Home (next week, Blues)
                        Brumbies at home (next week, Canes)
                        Brumbies at home (June 11, Landers)

                        None of this is to not say that the Rebels or Tahs couldn't trip up someone at home (like the fucking Chiefs) or that the Force couldn't steal one away, but, of those games, which look most likely?

                        I'd say next week Brumbies/Canes and this week Reds/Chiefs (Saders did the Chiefs no favors last week) look the most likely.

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                        @gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        Well, the Crusaders will go unbeaten, so of the remaining games which wouldn't be considered huge upsets if the Oz team won, which looks hardest?

                        Reds at Home (this week, Chiefs)
                        Reds at Home (next week, Blues)
                        Brumbies at home (next week, Canes)
                        Brumbies at home (June 11, Landers)

                        None of this is to not say that the Rebels or Tahs couldn't trip up someone at home (like the fucking Chiefs) or that the Force couldn't steal one away, but, of those games, which look most likely?

                        I'd say next week Brumbies/Canes and this week Reds/Chiefs (Saders did the Chiefs no favors last week) look the most likely.

                        Chiefs look the most in danger IMO. The travel schedule and injuries will catch them eventually even if just to deny them a BP against a team that everyone else has picked off easily.
                        The Reds game this week also looks like a banana skin. Back across the Ta$man again and this time up to Townsville.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

                          You're going to the game, right?

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                          @gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

                          You're going to the game, right?

                          yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.

                          Warriors friday, Chief saturday

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

                            You're going to the game, right?

                            yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.

                            Warriors friday, Chief saturday

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                            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

                            You're going to the game, right?

                            yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.

                            Warriors friday, Chief saturday

                            We're fucked then. But, I hope you have a good weekend, that sounds like a lot of fun with the kids.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

                              You're going to the game, right?

                              yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.

                              Warriors friday, Chief saturday

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                              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @gt12 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @gt12 i'm pretty much expecting the Chiefs to go down this weekend

                              You're going to the game, right?

                              yep, looking forward to seeing the stadium.

                              Warriors friday, Chief saturday

                              At least you get those idiot Warriors out of the way on the Friday, and as long as @gt12 is talking up the opposition on Saturday it should be an easy win to the Chiefs.

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                                People talk about the Saffa sides, but where are the Jaguares in all this?

                                They had a team last year, and with only one team, they cant play with themselves like everyone else....

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  People talk about the Saffa sides, but where are the Jaguares in all this?

                                  They had a team last year, and with only one team, they cant play with themselves like everyone else....

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                                  @taniwharugby Yeah, all they have now is the Jaguares XV squad (based in Buenos Aires) that plays in the Súper Liga Americana de Rugby, where they have replaced the Ceibos (based in Cordoba). It's basically the Jaguares, minus the player exodus to Europe, MLR and Aussie SR sides. Pre-Covid, the Jaguares XV were the development team of the Jaguares that was scheduled to take part in the Currie Cup, but Covid ruined that, too. I suspect that only a few of the old Jaguares team are still there. Youngsters, and maybe a few older players who've returned from Europe. I understand that - maybe next year - the Ceibos will join the SLAR again and Argentina will have two teams in that competition.

                                  There has also been talk of relocating the Jaguares to Spain and joining the PRO 14, but I haven't heard much about that recently.

                                  I miss the Jaguares. I loved how they reached the SR Final in 2019. They added something different; another style of rugby and a lot of passion. The time difference was convenient enough, with games at decent times on Sunday morning for away games. Just the travel. I'd love to have them back.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @taniwharugby Yeah, all they have now is the Jaguares XV squad (based in Buenos Aires) that plays in the Súper Liga Americana de Rugby, where they have replaced the Ceibos (based in Cordoba). It's basically the Jaguares, minus the player exodus to Europe, MLR and Aussie SR sides. Pre-Covid, the Jaguares XV were the development team of the Jaguares that was scheduled to take part in the Currie Cup, but Covid ruined that, too. I suspect that only a few of the old Jaguares team are still there. Youngsters, and maybe a few older players who've returned from Europe. I understand that - maybe next year - the Ceibos will join the SLAR again and Argentina will have two teams in that competition.

                                    There has also been talk of relocating the Jaguares to Spain and joining the PRO 14, but I haven't heard much about that recently.

                                    I miss the Jaguares. I loved how they reached the SR Final in 2019. They added something different; another style of rugby and a lot of passion. The time difference was convenient enough, with games at decent times on Sunday morning for away games. Just the travel. I'd love to have them back.

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                                    #265

                                    @stargazer yea they were good value and despite the time zone, worth persevering with, and in the current climate even better if they had another team, bring more to the comp than the 'PI' team will IMO

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                                    • sharkS shark

                                      @hydro11 said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                      The Australian teams are much worse than us. The draw does favour our teams though. The Hurricanes for instance are getting to rest some players with three easy games before taking on the Reds and the Brumbies. The Reds and Brumbies stand a chance of winning games, especially at home against our weaker sides. I think it will get tougher for them as the competition goes on.

                                      If you had a format where you play teams for your own country twice and all the Aussie teams once, it would at least appear more even. The New Zealand teams would be more tired from playing each other.

                                      Realistically, the best format would be 5 NZ teams, 4 Aus teams and 1 Pacific or Japanese team. That would provide the most even and balanced competition possible.

                                      The Crusaders played the top two Australian teams in the first two weeks, including their champions away. The Highlanders got their best side and then a trip to Perth. The Chiefs had to start in Perth a week after our final.

                                      How has the draw favoured NZ teams???

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                                      @shark
                                      Brumbies draw is 3 weeks away in NZ against Saders, Chiefs and Blues. Tell me again how bad things are for your teams

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                                        @shark
                                        Brumbies draw is 3 weeks away in NZ against Saders, Chiefs and Blues. Tell me again how bad things are for your teams

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                                        @yourmatenate said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        @shark
                                        Brumbies draw is 3 weeks away in NZ against Saders, Chiefs and Blues. Tell me again how bad things are for your teams

                                        Three weeks away from Canberra in late May, early June is a blessing. I'm surprised they didn't campaign to have all their games played away.

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                                          Very disappointing comp this, unopposed training sessions .
                                          Where the Fuck does this This leave SR for next season,credibility compromised with 12 teams ,7 teams may struggle.

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