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  • sharkS shark

    The 10-0 start is simply proving beyond doubt that the right move was made in cutting the Force a couple of years back. Aussie rugby fans have a choice: maximum number of teams, or a lesser number of competitive teams. Going from 5 to 4 is only losing 35 or so professional contracts, of whom only a handful might go overseas but the balance of the squad who are any good would strengthen the other four teams.

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    @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    The 10-0 start is simply proving beyond doubt that the right move was made in cutting the Force a couple of years back. Aussie rugby fans have a choice: maximum number of teams, or a lesser number of competitive teams. Going from 5 to 4 is only losing 35 or so professional contracts, of whom only a handful might go overseas but the balance of the squad who are any good would strengthen the other four teams.

    Maybe need to think about some form of first and second division, with promotion/relegation?

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      Congratulations to Australian Rugby for finally losing their cherry in Trans Ta$man Super Rugby.

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        @shark if you actually look at win percentage and overall success in the comp only the Brumbies have ever been consistently competitive. And even they only won the comp a couple times more than a decade ago.

        I love this fantasy world you guys have concocted where RA are gunna start cutting teams to ensure SR is suitable for NZ.

        Setting aside the competitive arguments, cutting teams is clearly not what fans want, so why should they. What's the point of rugby? Plus who do you cut? Force are probably the second best supported side.

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        @derpus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @shark if you actually look at win percentage and overall success in the comp only the Brumbies have ever been consistently competitive. And even they only won the comp a couple times more than a decade ago.

        I love this fantasy world you guys have concocted where RA are gunna start cutting teams to ensure SR is suitable for NZ.

        Setting aside the competitive arguments, cutting teams is clearly not what fans want, so why should they. What's the point of rugby? Plus who do you cut? Force are probably the second best supported side.

        Huh? In your first paragraph you state that the Brumbies have been the only consistently competitive Australian team. But then you say it's fantasy that RA would reduce their teams. The former statement is an argument for doing so. So you agree that the Aussie teams aren't up to it but just think it's ludicrous that RA - having already done it once - might drop a team?

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          @derpus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @shark if you actually look at win percentage and overall success in the comp only the Brumbies have ever been consistently competitive. And even they only won the comp a couple times more than a decade ago.

          I love this fantasy world you guys have concocted where RA are gunna start cutting teams to ensure SR is suitable for NZ.

          Setting aside the competitive arguments, cutting teams is clearly not what fans want, so why should they. What's the point of rugby? Plus who do you cut? Force are probably the second best supported side.

          Huh? In your first paragraph you state that the Brumbies have been the only consistently competitive Australian team. But then you say it's fantasy that RA would reduce their teams. The former statement is an argument for doing so. So you agree that the Aussie teams aren't up to it but just think it's ludicrous that RA - having already done it once - might drop a team?

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          @shark exactly. Hence we create our own comp, only this time with blackjack and hookers.

          We don't have to deal with losing to you every week. We can expand rather than contract our national footprint and we don't have to alienate a group of existing fans.

          The Super Au comp was already way more popular than any other comp or format we've had recently.

          A regular TT with only 3 Australian teams would represent at least as much of a gamble, mainly because there is no guarantee it will actually make us competitive.

          It seems just as likely to me that you cut a couple of teams to make us more competitive, alienate a bunch of funs, lose a bunch more players overseas and we continue to suck just as much.

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          • D Derpus

            @shark exactly. Hence we create our own comp, only this time with blackjack and hookers.

            We don't have to deal with losing to you every week. We can expand rather than contract our national footprint and we don't have to alienate a group of existing fans.

            The Super Au comp was already way more popular than any other comp or format we've had recently.

            A regular TT with only 3 Australian teams would represent at least as much of a gamble, mainly because there is no guarantee it will actually make us competitive.

            It seems just as likely to me that you cut a couple of teams to make us more competitive, alienate a bunch of funs, lose a bunch more players overseas and we continue to suck just as much.

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            @derpus ideally, Aus have more teams locally, and the top 4 play our top 4 (from proposed expanded or NPC comp in NZ)

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              @derpus ideally, Aus have more teams locally, and the top 4 play our top 4 (from proposed expanded or NPC comp in NZ)

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              @taniwharugby happy with that.

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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125302408/stop-putting-all-these-kiwi-sides-on-a-pedestal-waratahs-winger-alex-newsome-says-reds-have-shown-the-way

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125302408/stop-putting-all-these-kiwi-sides-on-a-pedestal-waratahs-winger-alex-newsome-says-reds-have-shown-the-way

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                  @taniwharugby is the way hope for a red card?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125302408/stop-putting-all-these-kiwi-sides-on-a-pedestal-waratahs-winger-alex-newsome-says-reds-have-shown-the-way

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                    @taniwharugby “Reds showed the way” - unfortunately Alex, you can’t all play the Chiefs each week….

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                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125302408/stop-putting-all-these-kiwi-sides-on-a-pedestal-waratahs-winger-alex-newsome-says-reds-have-shown-the-way

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                        'Stop putting all these Kiwi sides on a pedestal'
                        Just Ardie, ok? He needs those extra inches..

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                          The Breakdown put up an interesting fake table yesterday. A combined table of SR Trans Ta$man plus the second round of the domestic SR comps

                          (second round only because the domestic comps were home and away and TT is a single round)

                          combined table.png

                          So still dominated by the NZ sides but the Reds close behind.

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                          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                            'Stop putting all these Kiwi sides on a pedestal'
                            Just Ardie, ok? He needs those extra inches..

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                            @nostrildamus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            'Stop putting all these Kiwi sides on a pedestal'
                            Just Ardie, ok? He needs those extra inches..

                            I love how this joke still works in hilarious fresh new ways

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              'Stop putting all these Kiwi sides on a pedestal'
                              Just Ardie, ok? He needs those extra inches..

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                              @nostrildamus and Blackwell. 🙏

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                                Here are your referees for Round 4.

                                Crusaders v Force
                                Friday 4 June, 7:05pm
                                Orangetheory Stadium, Christchurch
                                Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
                                Assistant 1: James Doleman
                                Assistant 2: Brendon Pickerill
                                TMO: Chris Hart

                                Reds v Blues
                                Friday 4 June, 9:45pm
                                Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
                                Referee: Mike Fraser
                                Assistant 1: Nic Berry
                                Assistant 2: Jordan Way
                                TMO: Brett Cronan

                                Highlanders v Waratahs
                                Saturday 5 June, 7:05pm
                                Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
                                Referee: Damon Murphy
                                Assistant 1: James Doleman
                                Assistant 2: Jono Bredin
                                TMO: Chris Hart

                                Brumbies v Hurricanes
                                Saturday 5 June, 9:45pm
                                GIO Stadium, Canberra
                                Referee: Paul Williams
                                Assistant 1: Reuben Keane
                                Assistant 2: James Quinn
                                TMO: James Leckie

                                Chiefs v Rebels
                                Sunday 6 June, 3.35pm
                                FMG Stadium Waikato
                                Referee: Graham Cooper
                                Assistant 1: Brendon Pickerill
                                Assistant 2: Ben O’Keeffe
                                TMO: Shane McDermott

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  Here are your referees for Round 4.

                                  Crusaders v Force
                                  Friday 4 June, 7:05pm
                                  Orangetheory Stadium, Christchurch
                                  Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
                                  Assistant 1: James Doleman
                                  Assistant 2: Brendon Pickerill
                                  TMO: Chris Hart

                                  Reds v Blues
                                  Friday 4 June, 9:45pm
                                  Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
                                  Referee: Mike Fraser
                                  Assistant 1: Nic Berry
                                  Assistant 2: Jordan Way
                                  TMO: Brett Cronan

                                  Highlanders v Waratahs
                                  Saturday 5 June, 7:05pm
                                  Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
                                  Referee: Damon Murphy
                                  Assistant 1: James Doleman
                                  Assistant 2: Jono Bredin
                                  TMO: Chris Hart

                                  Brumbies v Hurricanes
                                  Saturday 5 June, 9:45pm
                                  GIO Stadium, Canberra
                                  Referee: Paul Williams
                                  Assistant 1: Reuben Keane
                                  Assistant 2: James Quinn
                                  TMO: James Leckie

                                  Chiefs v Rebels
                                  Sunday 6 June, 3.35pm
                                  FMG Stadium Waikato
                                  Referee: Graham Cooper
                                  Assistant 1: Brendon Pickerill
                                  Assistant 2: Ben O’Keeffe
                                  TMO: Shane McDermott

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                                  Canes4life
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                                  @bovidae Blues will be stoked not to get Nic Berry.

                                  I'm pretty happy that the Canes also get a kiwi ref on Aussie soil.

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                                    The Chiefs must have done something extremely bad to warrant getting the lineup of officials listed above.

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                                    • HigginsH Higgins

                                      The Chiefs must have done something extremely bad to warrant getting the lineup of officials listed above.

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                                      @higgins said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                      The Chiefs must have done something extremely bad to warrant getting the lineup of officials listed above.

                                      Righteous and deserved punishment for being shit and losing to an Ozzie team 😉

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                                        ^ I'm wondering how well that will age, as a Canes supporter ...

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                                          ^ I'm wondering how well that will age, as a Canes supporter ...

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                                          @machpants i giggled then immediately gulped upon learning the chiefs had soiled our NZ clean sheet.

                                          There but for the grace of God go I....🙂

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