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    Kiwiwomble
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    #382

    i find deliberate collapsing reprehensible, its one thing ive never come across someone advocating for in person but i know its out there

    knowing a guy, how lost his ability to walk in a collapsed scrum really clarified what is right and wrong for me

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @derpus i was with you right until the end. Collapsing scrums is notorious tactic everywhere to close out a game. Pushing the boundaries on the field is not the domain of one team, country, or region. Every single rugby team on the planet tries to get away with what ever they can. And if they are not, tehn they are not trying.

      Any fan who thinks their team is "cleaner" than another is delusional and not worth chatting with.

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      #383

      @mariner4life I think you are misconstruing what I meant.

      The Wallabies couldn't close out a game to save their fucking lives, whether it's collapsing a scrum or otherwise. I think the NH teams are very good at it. Perhaps 'notorious' was the wrong word.

      You also rarely see it from the Darkness because, well, they rarely need to.

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        Here are your referees for Round 5.

        Hurricanes v Reds
        Friday 11 June, 7:05pm
        Sky Stadium, Wellington
        Referee: James Doleman
        Assistant 1: Angus Mabey
        Assistant 2: Dan Waenga
        TMO: Aaron Paterson

        Brumbies v Highlanders
        Friday 11 June, 9:45pm
        GIO Stadium, Canberra
        Referee: Mike Fraser
        Assistant 1: Graham Cooper
        Assistant 2: Rueben Keane
        TMO: Brett Cronan

        Rebels v Crusaders
        Saturday 12 June, 4:35pm
        Leichardt Oval, Sydney
        Referee: Nic Berry
        Assistant 1: Graham Cooper
        Assistant 2: Matt Kellahan
        TMO: James Leckie

        Blues v Force
        Saturday 12 June, 7:05pm
        Eden Park, Auckland
        Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
        Assistant 1: Paul Williams
        Assistant 2: Angus Mabey
        TMO: Brendon Pickerill

        Waratahs v Chiefs
        Saturday 12 June, 9:45pm
        Brookvale Oval, Manly
        Referee: Jordan Way
        Assistant 1: Damon Murphy
        Assistant 2: Reuben Keane
        TMO: Brett Cronan

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          The Chiefs/Tahs get a bunch of no names commensurate with their own performance levels.

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            #386

            It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.

            I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.

              I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.

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              @sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.

              I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.

              I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow

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              • SiamS Offline
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                Could've just drawn 2 kiwi teams out of a hat 5 weeks ago and saved us all the bother😒

                Not a vintage month in the history of trans Ta$man rugby. Still, at least no one died, except the concept of Super rugby that is😁

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.

                  I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.

                  I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow

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                  @kirwan said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  @sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.

                  I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.

                  I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow

                  If we combined the tables, would we get the Saders versus Blues in Christchurch?

                  If so that seems about right.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

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                    Brumbies with a Pasifika jersey

                    pretty cool, i do love the irony of a landlocked region with the boat and ocean on the front of their jersey

                    Is that a scene from the film Moana on the front of the jersey?

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                    @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                    @kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

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                    Brumbies with a Pasifika jersey

                    pretty cool, i do love the irony of a landlocked region with the boat and ocean on the front of their jersey

                    Is that a scene from the film Moana on the front of the jersey?

                    I think it is Johnny Depp at sea but on a bender. As a zombie cannibal.

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                      dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                      table would look
                      highlander 33
                      blues 32
                      crusader 32
                      chiefs 31
                      hurricanes 31

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                        This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result. It wouldn't be a surprise if West Brom and Leeds United beat up on their MLS opposition the most and played a final.

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                        • sharkS shark

                          This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result. It wouldn't be a surprise if West Brom and Leeds United beat up on their MLS opposition the most and played a final.

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                          #393

                          @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.

                          Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.

                          A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.

                          Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.

                          There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.

                          Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.

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                            @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.

                            Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.

                            A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.

                            Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.

                            There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.

                            Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.

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                            @kiap said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.

                            Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.

                            A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.

                            Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.

                            There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.

                            Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.

                            Yawn.

                            The more you play NZ teams the better you’ll get. Otherwise just become the 80s South Africa and play your Shute Shield and make up your own laws.

                            The negativity from Australian posters on forums is off the charts, yet you talk to Oz rugby fans in real life and they’re more than happy with a combined comp knowing that you’ll stagnate otherwise.

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                            • P ploughboy

                              dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                              table would look
                              highlander 33
                              blues 32
                              crusader 32
                              chiefs 31
                              hurricanes 31

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                              @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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                                dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                                table would look
                                highlander 33
                                blues 32
                                crusader 32
                                chiefs 31
                                hurricanes 31

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                                #396

                                @ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                                table would look
                                highlander 33
                                blues 32
                                crusader 32
                                chiefs 31
                                hurricanes 31

                                I think it's more relevant to take the full SRA and SRAU tables and add the SRTT points, and see how it looks for all ten teams. How would that look? I say more relevant because it's likely next year we'll have the same games, just intermingled, rather than two rounds of derbies then a cross over comp.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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                                  @stargazer
                                  because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man

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                                    @stargazer
                                    because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man

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                                    @ploughboy You could also take the first round.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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                                      @stargazer
                                      that way we play all teams once not twice against harder teams for us. i found it interesting how close the points ended up

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                                        I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                        The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                          The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                                          @nepia i dont support the crusaders. just thought it would be interesting

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