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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.

    I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.

    I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow

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    @kirwan said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @sparky said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    It's been fun-ish. A wee bit too much messy Rugby for my liking though.

    I assume next year the games will be mixed up more between trans-tasman and games between franchises from the same country and it will be a single competition.

    I’m not a fan of the two seperate comps. Needs to be combined somehow

    If we combined the tables, would we get the Saders versus Blues in Christchurch?

    If so that seems about right.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

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      Brumbies with a Pasifika jersey

      pretty cool, i do love the irony of a landlocked region with the boat and ocean on the front of their jersey

      Is that a scene from the film Moana on the front of the jersey?

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      @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      @kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

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      Brumbies with a Pasifika jersey

      pretty cool, i do love the irony of a landlocked region with the boat and ocean on the front of their jersey

      Is that a scene from the film Moana on the front of the jersey?

      I think it is Johnny Depp at sea but on a bender. As a zombie cannibal.

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        dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
        table would look
        highlander 33
        blues 32
        crusader 32
        chiefs 31
        hurricanes 31

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          This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result. It wouldn't be a surprise if West Brom and Leeds United beat up on their MLS opposition the most and played a final.

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          • sharkS shark

            This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result. It wouldn't be a surprise if West Brom and Leeds United beat up on their MLS opposition the most and played a final.

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            @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.

            Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.

            A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.

            Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.

            There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.

            Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.

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            • KiapK Kiap

              @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.

              Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.

              A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.

              Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.

              There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.

              Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.

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              @kiap said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @shark said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              This comp is like taking the Premier League and pitting it against the MLS and expecting a meaningful result.

              Exaggerating for effect but it does reveal an underlying truth -- TT is not a meaningful comp.

              A six month timeframe before 2022 is too short to make a transnational full-season model work.

              Australia needs to largely go its own way at pro level.

              There is enough raw material and unharnessed financial muscle for the game to build from, plenty, in fact. But first and foremost domestic is the way ahead.

              Across the Ta$man games added - absolutely, but you can't base a whole season on that now.

              Yawn.

              The more you play NZ teams the better you’ll get. Otherwise just become the 80s South Africa and play your Shute Shield and make up your own laws.

              The negativity from Australian posters on forums is off the charts, yet you talk to Oz rugby fans in real life and they’re more than happy with a combined comp knowing that you’ll stagnate otherwise.

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              • P ploughboy

                dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                table would look
                highlander 33
                blues 32
                crusader 32
                chiefs 31
                hurricanes 31

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                @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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                • P ploughboy

                  dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                  table would look
                  highlander 33
                  blues 32
                  crusader 32
                  chiefs 31
                  hurricanes 31

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                  @ploughboy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  dont know if i have this right but if you take last round of aotearoa and tt and combine
                  table would look
                  highlander 33
                  blues 32
                  crusader 32
                  chiefs 31
                  hurricanes 31

                  I think it's more relevant to take the full SRA and SRAU tables and add the SRTT points, and see how it looks for all ten teams. How would that look? I say more relevant because it's likely next year we'll have the same games, just intermingled, rather than two rounds of derbies then a cross over comp.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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                    @stargazer
                    because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man

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                      @stargazer
                      because that gave a full round against everyone and our second round run into trans Ta$man

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                      @ploughboy You could also take the first round.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @ploughboy Why would you only take the last round of SRA?

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                        @stargazer
                        that way we play all teams once not twice against harder teams for us. i found it interesting how close the points ended up

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                          I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                          The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                            The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                            @nepia i dont support the crusaders. just thought it would be interesting

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                              The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                              @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

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                                @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

                                I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

                                Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                  The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                                  @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                  I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                  The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                                  I'm not discussing this because I think that's how it should have been done. The SRTT comp in this format has never bothered me as it's just a bit of a 'meh' event. I'm only curious about it (the table) because it's been raised.

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                                    Just a few numbers to ponder.

                                    Force were beaten on average by 13 points a game..
                                    Rebels by 24.
                                    Tahs by 27.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                      @nepia Nah, they did it on the Breakdown a few weeks back. It's all pointless anyway. We played two rounds; we played two separte comps. One was great; the second was not.

                                      I liked the second, I liked seeing the Aussie players up against NZers.

                                      Maybe you need to join @Kiap and the other Aussies on forums sucking on lemons. (Joke)

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                                      @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

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                                        @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        @nepia I found it boring for different reasons. I didn't know what to expect, but I hoped the Aussie teams would be more competitive. Sure, some of them put up a fight (particularly the Force), but overall it was a snooze- fest. TT was like @Frank said in another thread "about how much you can thrash the Aussie teams". That's not my idea of a good, exciting comp.

                                        Honestly hoped the reds and brumbies might have been more competitive 😞

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                          The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

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                                          @nepia said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          I wonder if all this draw/combining tables of two separate competitions would be discussed if the Crusaders hadn’t missed out. 😝

                                          The Chiefs got a shit draw, but they knew what to do to be successful. They weren’t. Same with the other two teams who didn’t make the final.

                                          I am not a Saders supporter, but we all know they are better than both the Blues and Highlanders.

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