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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @derpus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    @crucial If we are still getting a SRau final every year which is selling 40k tickets and has 500k views i don't think getting knocked out of a subsequent comp matters as much.

    I think it would.

    It's all very well for whoever hosts the final of the domestic comp but the other franchises need games and crowds to help generate revenue.

    40k at Suncorp doesn't help the Rebels much (for example).

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    @kiwimurph funding is largely trickle down as a result of the TV deal. So big views in Queensland do help the Rebels.

    Seems to be how it works the world over. NRL salary cap is directly related to and funded by the TV deal, for example. EPL etc the most bloated and aggressive form.

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    • barbarianB barbarian

      I get why they did it, but I'd have liked a one week break between the ending of Super AU/Aeo and the start of Super TT.

      Gives the finalists a chance to recover, the chance for a bit more hype and coverage.

      The Reds are our best side but I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan given they lose at least Petaia and Wilson from their team with injury, and would be very tempted to rest some of their stars who would be buggered/hungover from a brutal last game.

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      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

      I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

      That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @derpus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @snowy It could be the foundation of Champions Cup style thing.

        That would make more sense IMO. A knockout 1v5, 2v4, type thing.

        Trouble would be if one country got knocked out early.

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        @crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @derpus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

        @snowy It could be the foundation of Champions Cup style thing.

        That would make more sense IMO. A knockout 1v5, 2v4, type thing.

        Trouble would be if one country got knocked out early.

        Typical Champs Cup format does have a pool phase first, so teams (and their fans) are guaranteed at least some games before the knockouts.

        Sort of like the RWC.

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

          That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

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          @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

          I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

          That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

          I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

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          • barbarianB barbarian

            @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

            I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

            That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

            I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

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            @barbarian It would also be boring.

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            • barbarianB barbarian

              @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

              That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

              I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

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              @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

              That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

              I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

              I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @barbarian It would also be boring.

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                @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                @barbarian It would also be boring.

                You shut your mouf!!🙂

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                  That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                  I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                  I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

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                  @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                  I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                  That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                  I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                  I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                  the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

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                  • barbarianB barbarian

                    I get why they did it, but I'd have liked a one week break between the ending of Super AU/Aeo and the start of Super TT.

                    Gives the finalists a chance to recover, the chance for a bit more hype and coverage.

                    The Reds are our best side but I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan given they lose at least Petaia and Wilson from their team with injury, and would be very tempted to rest some of their stars who would be buggered/hungover from a brutal last game.

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                    @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                    I get why they did it, but I'd have liked a one week break between the ending of Super AU/Aeo and the start of Super TT.

                    Gives the finalists a chance to recover, the chance for a bit more hype and coverage.

                    The Reds are our best side but I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan given they lose at least Petaia and Wilson from their team with injury, and would be very tempted to rest some of their stars who would be buggered/hungover from a brutal last game.

                    I believe they had to start it right away because of the test schedule/preparation

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                      That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                      I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                      I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                      the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

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                      @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                      I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                      That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                      I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                      I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                      the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

                      To win the whole thing? Or just to beat the landers?

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                        That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                        I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                        I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                        the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

                        To win the whole thing? Or just to beat the landers?

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                        @bones said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                        I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                        That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                        I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                        I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                        the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

                        To win the whole thing? Or just to beat the landers?

                        just to beat the Landers

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                          That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                          I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                          I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                          the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

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                          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                          I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                          That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                          I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                          I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                          the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

                          According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                          Canes $1.03
                          Crusaders $1.08
                          Chiefs $1.13
                          Blues $1.14
                          Highlanders $1.31

                          https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                            That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                            I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                            I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                            the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

                            According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                            Canes $1.03
                            Crusaders $1.08
                            Chiefs $1.13
                            Blues $1.14
                            Highlanders $1.31

                            https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

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                            @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                            I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                            That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                            I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                            I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                            the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

                            According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                            Canes $1.03
                            Crusaders $1.08
                            Chiefs $1.13
                            Blues $1.14
                            Highlanders $1.31

                            https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

                            if you add one cent to every team, then you have the equivilent at the Aus TAB..(can go to one of the other billion betting sites though for better odds)..so pretty consistent

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @mariner4life said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @snowy said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              I can easily see them dropping a game to the Clan

                              That's why it will be a great comp I reckon. The Clan did a real number on the Crusaders so who knows what next?

                              I think admins will be hoping for at least one Aussie win. A 5-0 whitewash will trigger cries of 'here we go again' from both sides of the Ta$man.

                              I expect that there won't be a team that gets whitewashed. Even the Tahs may get something in the win column. I also expect a number of people to be surprised at how competitive the two SRAu finalists will be.

                              the $3.55 i got on the Reds seems fucking ridiculous

                              According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                              Canes $1.03
                              Crusaders $1.08
                              Chiefs $1.13
                              Blues $1.14
                              Highlanders $1.31

                              https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15143/matches

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                              @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                              According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                              ESPN seems to disagree, ranking even the Western Force above the Hurricanes and Highlanders.

                              https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/31419393/super-rugby-trans-tasman-power-rankings-round-1

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                                @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                                ESPN seems to disagree, ranking even the Western Force above the Hurricanes and Highlanders.

                                https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/31419393/super-rugby-trans-tasman-power-rankings-round-1

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                                @stargazer said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                @chris-b said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                According to the TAB, the Reds are the only Oz team with a vague hope.

                                ESPN seems to disagree, ranking even the Western Force above the Hurricanes and Highlanders.

                                https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/31419393/super-rugby-trans-tasman-power-rankings-round-1

                                think the odds were for this weekends matches.. if you want to back espn on their thoughts you could earn a fair bit.. or lose it just as quickly 🙂

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                                  I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                  The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                  I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

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                                  • barbarianB barbarian

                                    I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                    The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                    I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

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                                    @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                    I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                    The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                    I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                                    Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

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                                    • barbarianB barbarian

                                      I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                      The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                      I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

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                                      @barbarian The Force have always been a banana skin team, esp for NZ teams on their way back from South Africa.

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                        The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                        I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                                        Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

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                                        @crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                        I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                        The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                        I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                                        Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

                                        They also have Murphy as the Ref who IMO is out of his depth.
                                        He is so far behind Gardener and Berry who are decent refs.

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                                          @crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                          The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                          I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                                          Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

                                          They also have Murphy as the Ref who IMO is out of his depth.
                                          He is so far behind Gardener and Berry who are decent refs.

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                                          @chris said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          @crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          @barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

                                          I think the Kiwi teams are unders, but there's still a very decent chance they all win.

                                          The Force are the upset chance. Chiefs coming off a bruising final, Force plotting the ambush in Perth, time difference, home crowd, etc.

                                          I think that game will be more competitive than many will expect. At very least I'll take a look at the Force at the line (+15.5) at $1.97.

                                          Chiefs could well take a strategy of going for a decent lead with a close to 'A' team then getting the reserves on early. That points spread does look good.

                                          They also have Murphy as the Ref who IMO is out of his depth.
                                          He is so far behind Gardener and Berry who are decent refs.

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