Digital Privacy
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@raznomore maybe you think aloud a lot more than you realise! hmmm but surely those will all be ads for hot chicks and stuff
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@paekakboyz I'm only half serious....nothing but wall to wall tentacle porn ads..
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@paekakboyz said in Digital Privacy:
@kirwan oh totally, and it's terrifying. Not so much because they know what I'm up to, but what they can learn and encourage when looking at huge data sets etc. I'm hoping we see another messaging provider pop up - with Wassap owned by dirty FB they can say they have stuck to their principles but... yeah right.
Showed my MIL how this worked on her tablet. We spoke about buying a house in an area she hadn't ever heard of and lo and behold what starts popping up on her FB and in her google ads? you guessed it.
It's not listening, that would destroy the battery life and be easy for people to check for. The algorithms and inferences it can make with all the data they have is creepily effective.
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@kirwan i reckon its both, but only triggering on key words or something like that. As you are right that it'd be battery hungry if on 24/7. And easily identified I guess.
They know you and what you view, buy, and where you go. Then who else is around you and what their habits are. It's crazy shit but we've all clicked through the Privacy novels.
Which app had that hack that played a silent track to keep it active? So it could monitor other user activity
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I had a situation about 18 months ago, out seeing a client, and spotted portable generators, hadnt thought about it before, but asked him about them.
I return to work and I had ads for generators show up.
Can only have been from listening, as much as I didn't/dont want to believe it.
No algorithm could have done that, it was such a random thing, even the client meeting was last minute and the business name had nothing to do with generators.
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@taniwharugby said in Digital Privacy:
I had a situation about 18 months ago, out seeing a client, and spotted portable generators, hadnt thought about it before, but asked him about them.
I return to work and I had ads for generators show up.
Can only have been from listening, as much as I didn't/dont want to believe it.
No algorithm could have done that, it was such a random thing, even the client meeting was last minute and the business name had nothing to do with generators.
How did the client get the portable generators? Did he do a google search, did he have emails from the company providing them? As soon as your phone registered as being close to his, then all his searches became related to you too. The the ML takes a stab at what you'll be interested in too.
It's data mining, not eavesdropping.
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@kirwan said in Digital Privacy:
did he have emails from the company providing them
he is a bit more old school with his online activity, but I'd say invoices would be emailed.
So the mining picks up the characters/content of the PDF invoice or whatever is used, given most invoices simply state the number when multiple items are purchased.
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@taniwharugby said in Digital Privacy:
@kirwan said in Digital Privacy:
did he have emails from the company providing them
he is a bit more old school with his online activity, but I'd say invoices would be emailed.
So the mining picks up the characters/content of the PDF invoice or whatever is used, given most invoices simply state the number when multiple items are purchased.
I don't know the specifics, my general point is most people would be alarmed at how much data is being mined.
People can say that they don't have a Facebook account, for example, but Facebook makes shadow accounts for them anyway.
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@taniwharugby And by the way, it doesn't need to be the client. It could be one step along the chain the whoever owns the generator. Link back to the client, then you. Spiderwebs...
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For iOS users here's a good summary of the new alert;
TL;DR; Always choose "Ask App Not to Track"
So far, 94% of users are choosing it.
How to use the iOS app tracking blocker
