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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @dogmeat said in Euros:

    @snowy It's actually 7-3 but take your point.

    Yeah my bad, but as you said point remains. They aren't very good at it.

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    @snowy said in Euros:

    @dogmeat said in Euros:

    @snowy It's actually 7-3 but take your point.

    Yeah my bad, but as you said point remains. They aren't very good at it.

    I think the Dutch are even worse. I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976. Beaten by the Czechs who I think also have an impressive record in penalties.

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    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

      @snowy said in Euros:

      @dogmeat said in Euros:

      @snowy It's actually 7-3 but take your point.

      Yeah my bad, but as you said point remains. They aren't very good at it.

      I think the Dutch are even worse. I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976. Beaten by the Czechs who I think also have an impressive record in penalties.

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      @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

      I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

      Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

      I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

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      • dogmeatD dogmeat

        @mn5 It's a really a very small minority of diehard fucktards who persist with this fluffybunny ish behaviour.

        It can spiral very quickly but fortunately in the majority of instances bar owners will merely be counting their profits.

        Much improved from the 80's but still appalling and appallingly predictable

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        @dogmeat said in Euros:

        @mn5 It's a really a very small minority of diehard fucktards who persist with this fluffybunny ish behaviour.

        It can spiral very quickly but fortunately in the majority of instances bar owners will merely be counting their profits.

        Much improved from the 80's but still appalling and appallingly predictable

        Yep I’m sure it is a small minority overall but shit they leave a bad impression. Feral pack mentality at it’s absolute worst.

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

          I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

          Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

          I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

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          @snowy said in Euros:

          @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

          I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

          Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

          I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

          For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..the main one for me being ( unlike Rugby ) you can’t go from losing to winning in the space of one score…..it has to be an equaliser and THEN the winner.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @snowy said in Euros:

            @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

            I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

            Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

            I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

            For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..the main one for me being ( unlike Rugby ) you can’t go from losing to winning in the space of one score…..it has to be an equaliser and THEN the winner.

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            #525

            @mn5 said in Euros:

            @snowy said in Euros:

            @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

            I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

            Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

            I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

            For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

            Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

            I am going to cop it for that.

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            • SnowyS Snowy

              @mn5 said in Euros:

              @snowy said in Euros:

              @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

              I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

              Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

              I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

              For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

              Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

              I am going to cop it for that.

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              MN5
              wrote on last edited by MN5
              #526

              @snowy said in Euros:

              @mn5 said in Euros:

              @snowy said in Euros:

              @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

              I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

              Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

              I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

              For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

              Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

              I am going to cop it for that.

              Not from me you won’t. At it’s absolute best it can be a beautiful game but that, plus the constant diving take away from it…..

              I guess I’m not a huge fan for the same reason some people aren’t fans of test cricket. However cricket teams have changed their mentality in the last few years and meaningless draws are much rarer. I can’t see the same happening with football.

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @mn5 said in Euros:

                @snowy said in Euros:

                @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                I am going to cop it for that.

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                #527

                @snowy said in Euros:

                @mn5 said in Euros:

                @snowy said in Euros:

                @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                I am going to cop it for that.

                I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

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                  #528

                  The refs in the Euros have ignored most of the dives so players weren't getting free kicks as much as usual. A few contentious penalties were given though.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    The refs in the Euros have ignored most of the dives so players weren't getting free kicks as much as usual. A few contentious penalties were given though.

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                    @bovidae said in Euros:

                    The refs in the Euros have ignored most of the dives so players weren't getting free kicks as much as usual. A few contentious penalties were given though.

                    If that’s true then that’s a good start.

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                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                      @snowy said in Euros:

                      @mn5 said in Euros:

                      @snowy said in Euros:

                      @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                      I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                      Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                      I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                      For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                      Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                      I am going to cop it for that.

                      I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

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                      #530

                      @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                      @snowy said in Euros:

                      @mn5 said in Euros:

                      @snowy said in Euros:

                      @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                      I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                      Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                      I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                      For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                      Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                      I am going to cop it for that.

                      I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

                      Golden goal with no time limit would be cool, just keep playing until someone scores. Though the way some teams play we may end up with a 5 hour game!

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @snowy said in Euros:

                        @mn5 said in Euros:

                        @snowy said in Euros:

                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                        I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                        Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                        I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                        For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                        Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                        I am going to cop it for that.

                        Not from me you won’t. At it’s absolute best it can be a beautiful game but that, plus the constant diving take away from it…..

                        I guess I’m not a huge fan for the same reason some people aren’t fans of test cricket. However cricket teams have changed their mentality in the last few years and meaningless draws are much rarer. I can’t see the same happening with football.

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                        @mn5 said in Euros:

                        Not from me you won’t. At it’s absolute best it can be a beautiful game but that, plus the constant diving take away from it…..

                        My first thread 20 years ago - "Why I hate poofball". I could have used a better title, but it ended up at about 78 pages (yes, pages back then) Not "test ignore status but a good first attempt.

                        Yes about cricket. We grew up in an age where a draw was more the norm. Not so much now.

                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                        I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

                        Oh and this re shoot outs.

                        Golden goal? A four hour soccer match with players all having a nap out there? They lie down enough already.

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                          @snowy said in Euros:

                          @mn5 said in Euros:

                          @snowy said in Euros:

                          @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                          I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                          Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                          I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                          For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                          Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                          I am going to cop it for that.

                          I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

                          Golden goal with no time limit would be cool, just keep playing until someone scores. Though the way some teams play we may end up with a 5 hour game!

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                          @no-quarter said in Euros:

                          @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                          @snowy said in Euros:

                          @mn5 said in Euros:

                          @snowy said in Euros:

                          @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                          I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                          Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                          I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                          For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                          Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                          I am going to cop it for that.

                          I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

                          Golden goal with no time limit would be cool, just keep playing until someone scores. Though the way some teams play we may end up with a 5 hour game!

                          Snap. I went for 4.

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                            @snowy said in Euros:

                            @mn5 said in Euros:

                            @snowy said in Euros:

                            @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                            I don’t think the Germans have lost one since 1976.

                            Shit. No wonder they keep winning tournaments.

                            I do question a game that just has to have so many tie breakers, but my thoughts on soccer are well known.

                            For the worlds most popular sport ( and none of us can deny that ) it has a lot of flaws as a game…..

                            Mostly not having a winner at the end of so many matches seems to be a bit of a flaw in a "contest". A bit of a participation sport, show up, draw. Everybody (or nobody) is happy.

                            I am going to cop it for that.

                            I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

                            Golden goal with no time limit would be cool, just keep playing until someone scores. Though the way some teams play we may end up with a 5 hour game!

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                            @no-quarter said in Euros:

                            Golden goal with no time limit would be cool, just keep playing until someone scores.

                            That was used in the early 2000s. France beat Italy in the 2000 Euro final with a golden goal. Last used at the 2002 WC.

                            I'm sure time constraints were the reason it was discontinued.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @no-quarter said in Euros:

                              Golden goal with no time limit would be cool, just keep playing until someone scores.

                              That was used in the early 2000s. France beat Italy in the 2000 Euro final with a golden goal. Last used at the 2002 WC.

                              I'm sure time constraints were the reason it was discontinued.

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                              @bovidae said in Euros:

                              I'm sure time constraints were the reason it was discontinued.

                              Which does get back to the flaw with the game, but I'm leaving it there.

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                              • SnowyS Snowy

                                @mn5 said in Euros:

                                Not from me you won’t. At it’s absolute best it can be a beautiful game but that, plus the constant diving take away from it…..

                                My first thread 20 years ago - "Why I hate poofball". I could have used a better title, but it ended up at about 78 pages (yes, pages back then) Not "test ignore status but a good first attempt.

                                Yes about cricket. We grew up in an age where a draw was more the norm. Not so much now.

                                @rancid-schnitzel said in Euros:

                                I love the drama of penalty shootouts but they are a really shit way of deciding a game. You also hear of teams playing for penalties which is even more shit. What happened to golden goal? Too innovative?

                                Oh and this re shoot outs.

                                Golden goal? A four hour soccer match with players all having a nap out there? They lie down enough already.

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                                @snowy said in Euros:

                                My first thread 20 years ago - "Why I hate poofball". I remember that thread. Is it really that long ago. Fuck.

                                I'm not that bothered about the draws. A good tight draw can be engrossing but there's a lot of aimless 'effort' between the two penalty boxes in way too many games.

                                Of course the same could be said of rugby. Could but if you said it you'd be wrong 😉

                                It's the lack of intent that destroys too many games. Can't deny the skills on display though and by and large the Euro's have been pretty decent.

                                I don't remember the players all being whippets in the past though. Clean living, dieticians and fitness planners have a lot to answer for.

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                                  It's the diving and the ref intimidation that grates me. Watching 10 blokes surround a retreating ref when a decision goes against them is a terrible picture for any kid watching.

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                                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                    @snowy said in Euros:

                                    My first thread 20 years ago - "Why I hate poofball". I remember that thread. Is it really that long ago. Fuck.

                                    I'm not that bothered about the draws. A good tight draw can be engrossing but there's a lot of aimless 'effort' between the two penalty boxes in way too many games.

                                    Of course the same could be said of rugby. Could but if you said it you'd be wrong 😉

                                    It's the lack of intent that destroys too many games. Can't deny the skills on display though and by and large the Euro's have been pretty decent.

                                    I don't remember the players all being whippets in the past though. Clean living, dieticians and fitness planners have a lot to answer for.

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                                    @dogmeat said in Euros:

                                    Clean living, dieticians and fitness planners have a lot to answer for.

                                    Yeah fuck that. Come back George Best.

                                    @dogmeat said in Euros:

                                    It's the lack of intent that destroys too many games. Can't deny the skills on display though

                                    Agreed about the skills. Even the diving with no pool is impressive. Clever stuff.

                                    Yes that thread would have been 20 years ago. I remember where I was living when posting it and pissing a lot of people off (not much of a change in 2 decades). I moved in 2001. Might have moved due to soccer fans hate mail, can't recall.

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                                    • voodooV voodoo

                                      It's the diving and the ref intimidation that grates me. Watching 10 blokes surround a retreating ref when a decision goes against them is a terrible picture for any kid watching.

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                                      @voodoo said in Euros:

                                      It's the diving and the ref intimidation that grates me. Watching 10 blokes surround a retreating ref when a decision goes against them is a terrible picture for any kid watching.

                                      have to say thats some of the reason i enjoy the lower leagues so much more, obviously still happens but no where near the same extent

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                                        It's the diving and the ref intimidation that grates me. Watching 10 blokes surround a retreating ref when a decision goes against them is a terrible picture for any kid watching.

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                                        @voodoo said in Euros:

                                        It's the diving and the ref intimidation that grates me. Watching 10 blokes surround a retreating ref when a decision goes against them is a terrible picture for any kid watching.

                                        With modern tech they should be able to get rid of a lot of the diving. If there's clearly no contact, the VAR should be issuing YCs to stop the player doing it again. I'm not sure why they don't crack down on it - maybe there's an element of it being part of the game that people are OK with? A feel like a lot of the complaints come from people that are not diehard fans.

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                                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                          @voodoo said in Euros:

                                          It's the diving and the ref intimidation that grates me. Watching 10 blokes surround a retreating ref when a decision goes against them is a terrible picture for any kid watching.

                                          With modern tech they should be able to get rid of a lot of the diving. If there's clearly no contact, the VAR should be issuing YCs to stop the player doing it again. I'm not sure why they don't crack down on it - maybe there's an element of it being part of the game that people are OK with? A feel like a lot of the complaints come from people that are not diehard fans.

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                                          @no-quarter said in Euros:

                                          I'm not sure why they don't crack down on it - maybe there's an element of it being part of the game that people are OK with? A feel like a lot of the complaints come from people that are not diehard fans.

                                          There are reasons that they are not diehard fans. Me included. Diving is one of them.

                                          Rugby is of course perfect. No problems with the laws, refs, nothing. All good.

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