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Otago 2021

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    Kiwiwomble
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    Am i reading too much into naming halfbacks and first fives as “inside backs”?

    Just two of each seem lite

    No josh timu which is disappointing, thought he started to look good last year

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      Am i reading too much into naming halfbacks and first fives as “inside backs”?

      Just two of each seem lite

      No josh timu which is disappointing, thought he started to look good last year

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      @kiwiwomble Timu is injuried

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        Am i reading too much into naming halfbacks and first fives as “inside backs”?

        Just two of each seem lite

        No josh timu which is disappointing, thought he started to look good last year

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        @kiwiwomble said in Otago 2021:

        Am i reading too much into naming halfbacks and first fives as “inside backs”?

        Just two of each seem lite

        No josh timu which is disappointing, thought he started to look good last year

        The team list Stuff released had Koroi at first five, for what it's worth. Hastie might be covering 10? I think he moved there at one point for the Highlanders U20

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          Just read that Cam Millar is there as 10 cover, too.

          Also Saula Mau is injured yet again. Its a shame, as he is supposed to be very promising.

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            #48

            Abraham and Tevita 🙌🏻

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            • SouthernMannS Offline
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              #49

              Really happy with this squad.

              A strong foundation up front, some good carrying fetching loose forwards. My only issue with the pack, is that we don't seem to have many players who are string in the carry. Nel, Coltman, Lentjes and Withy potentially. But, no one really damaging.

              The backline should be fairly outstanding at this level. Every one of them should be able to hold their own/excel.

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                @kiwiwomble said in Otago 2021:

                Am i reading too much into naming halfbacks and first fives as “inside backs”?

                Just two of each seem lite

                No josh timu which is disappointing, thought he started to look good last year

                The team list Stuff released had Koroi at first five, for what it's worth. Hastie might be covering 10? I think he moved there at one point for the Highlanders U20

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                @bobily2 said in Otago 2021:

                Hastie might be covering 10? I think he moved there at one point for the Highlanders U20

                He played on the wing IIRC.

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                  https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/highlanders-do-lot-not-enough-0

                  Hastie started at halfback before switching to the wing in the second half, while Withy carried strongly throughout.
                  

                  Yea, looks like you're right. I thought he was a bit more involved than that - guess this is evidence my memory is going.

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                  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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                    so hastie is a halfback? the official list has three halfbacks, one 10 (who didn't play 10 in super rugby) and one outside who can cover 10...but rarely does

                    dont get me wrong, in general its a string squad but im a bit nervous about 10

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      so hastie is a halfback? the official list has three halfbacks, one 10 (who didn't play 10 in super rugby) and one outside who can cover 10...but rarely does

                      dont get me wrong, in general its a string squad but im a bit nervous about 10

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                      @kiwiwomble said in Otago 2021:

                      so hastie is a halfback? the official list has three halfbacks, one 10 (who didn't play 10 in super rugby) and one outside who can cover 10...but rarely does

                      dont get me wrong, in general its a string squad but im a bit nervous about 10

                      Yes, he is. Cam Millar is training with the squad as cover.

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                      • SouthernMannS Offline
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                        I've decided to have a go at a full strength side.

                        Jermaine Ainsley
                        Liam Coltman
                        George Bower
                        Josh Dickson
                        Will Tucker
                        James Lentjes
                        Sean Withy
                        Dylan Nel

                        Kayne Hammington
                        Josh Ioane
                        Jona Nareki
                        Ray Nu'u
                        Thomas Umaga-Jensen
                        Freedom Vahaakolo
                        Sam Gilbert

                        Ricky Jackson
                        Josh Hohneck
                        Sef Fa'agase
                        Fabian Holland
                        Slade McDowall
                        James Arscott
                        Vili Koroi
                        Sio Tomkinson

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                        • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                          I've decided to have a go at a full strength side.

                          Jermaine Ainsley
                          Liam Coltman
                          George Bower
                          Josh Dickson
                          Will Tucker
                          James Lentjes
                          Sean Withy
                          Dylan Nel

                          Kayne Hammington
                          Josh Ioane
                          Jona Nareki
                          Ray Nu'u
                          Thomas Umaga-Jensen
                          Freedom Vahaakolo
                          Sam Gilbert

                          Ricky Jackson
                          Josh Hohneck
                          Sef Fa'agase
                          Fabian Holland
                          Slade McDowall
                          James Arscott
                          Vili Koroi
                          Sio Tomkinson

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                          @southernmann would love to see it, wil be surprised if they start withy ove slade

                          and sio is untouchable so will start if fit (not banned)

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                            Sean Withy is their golden boy who was called into the Highlanders earlier in the year. There's a good chance he could be starting. McDowall, despite his solid performances hasn't been rated that highly by coaches.

                            As for the midfield. Between Sio, TUJ, Faddes and Nu'u, anyone two of them could start. I just think that TUJ and Nu'u will have the most punch. On the other hand I'd like to see TUJ spend the season at 12.

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                              Sorry for my long break. I've come back fresh for the 2021 season and I've been looking into the squad and the Prem comp for a long time. I believe that this year we take down the Bay for the shield, defending it against Canterbury etc. we should be pushing to be top overall this season and should be favourites to be promoted.

                              My team and the backups for each position is

                              1 G Bower, J Aoina, A Pole, T Pole
                              2 L Coltman, R Jackson, H Bell
                              3 J Ainsley, J Hohneck, S Fa'agase
                              4 J Dickson, J Hill
                              5 W Tucker, F Holland
                              6 S Withy, S Fischli
                              7 J Lentjes, S McDowall
                              8 D Nel, C Lio-Willie
                              9 K Hammington, J Arscott, N Hastie
                              10 J Ioane, V Koroi
                              11 J Nareki, V Fine
                              12 R Nu'u, G Leituala, A Morris-Lome
                              13 S Tomkinson, M Faddes, T Umaga-Jensen
                              14 F Vaha'akolo, M Faddes
                              15 V Koroi, S Gilbert

                              #1 Lineup
                              1 Giorgio Bower
                              2 Liam Coltman
                              3 Jermaine Ainsley
                              4 Josh Dickson
                              5 Will Tucker
                              6 Sean Withy
                              7 James Lentjes (c)
                              8 Dylan Nel
                              9 Kayne Hammington
                              10 Josh Ioane
                              11 Jona Nareki
                              12 Raymond Nu'u
                              13 Sio Tomkinson
                              14 Freedom Vaha'akolo
                              15 Vilimoni Koroi

                              16 Ricky Jackson
                              17 Jonah Aoina
                              18 Josh Hohneck
                              19 Josh Hill
                              20 Slade McDowall
                              21 James Arscott
                              22 Thomas Umaga-Jensen
                              23 Matt Faddes

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                                Only reason I said Sio at 13 is cause Ray is the top 12 after his Prem season, and they like Sio so they'll start him, I'd switch him and TUJ around

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                                  Only reason I said Sio at 13 is cause Ray is the top 12 after his Prem season, and they like Sio so they'll start him, I'd switch him and TUJ around

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                                  @natehill74 said in Otago 2021:

                                  Only reason I said Sio at 13 is cause Ray is the top 12 after his Prem season, and they like Sio so they'll start him, I'd switch him and TUJ around

                                  Was going to flame you until I saw this 😉

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                                    Interesting take @NateHill74

                                    As mentioned Koroi won't be back until halfway through the season, even though he missed the Sevens squad. Same with Bower in the All Blacks. Even with Koroi available, I still reckon they will prefer by Sam gilbert at fullback.

                                    The midfield is really fascinating. Was interesting to read that TUJ played at 13, not 12 for the Bookworms over the weekend. My hope is that he plays in the midfield alongside Nu'u. I like the idea of having Sio on the bench, covering wing and midfield. TUJ is such a key player for both the Highlanders and Otago going forward, so really hope he gets some decent game time.

                                    No first five coverage until Koroi gets back, apart from Miller. Don't know much about him, except that he's a gun goal kicker. Is he ready for this level of rugby?

                                    I'm just stoked to see how much depth the squad has.

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                                      yeah, think im more keen to see gilbert at 15 and Koroi as 22/23. with so little depth at 10 id like Koroi to specialise a little once he gets back

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                                        Yeah Uni had Gio and he's a beast at 12, I went to school with him. It'll be intriguing how he goes and what time he gets too. He can play 10 if needed and can goal kick. Miller isn't bad, his kicking is his strength. Only ran the OBHS 1st XV from 10 in year 13 but the Highlanders U20 he wasn't too bad. Taieri has been good with him, but yeah his experince at this level, maybe play against Manawatu or Counties

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                                          Paul Dwyer has just mentioned on ODT rugby chat that Thomas Umaga-Jensen might be out for the season. He said that he may have done his ACL on the weekend.

                                          This kid just can't catch a break.

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