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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    She really is the Nick Kyrgios of women's tennis. Then goes one step lower by playing the racism and sexism cards afterwards to justify her childish behaviour.

    Too much time hanging out narcissistic A-list celebrities has left her head well and truly buried up her own ass. Her older sister seems very level headed by comparison.

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    taniwharugby
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    #259

    @no-quarter dicks on Breakfast were defending her this morning claiming Kyrgios gets away it and is labelled 'cheeky' for his antics...not sure I seen to many people say he is cheeky.

    Feel for that poor Japanese girl in all this, she wins her first tournament against her child hood idol (wonder if she still looks up to her...) and all anyone talks about is poor discriminated Serena!

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      #260

      @taniwharugby haha now they're just making shit up. Kyrgios gets torn to shreds by all and sundry when he plays up like that, to the point that you start to feel a bit sorry for the bloke - in fact I remember Federer feeling like he needed to come to his defense as the hate was getting so toxic.

      That's like the myth that females get more abuse online than males, when basically all studies done state the opposite is true. Idiots in the media just make up bullshit to suit the narrative they are trying to push.

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      • Chris B.C Offline
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        Chris B.
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        The world has too much information and too many people scrambling to be heard.

        Unfortunately, it's often no longer the most sensible commentators who are garnering attention and clicks - it's the biggest fuckwits!

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        • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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          Rancid Schnitzel
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          How is sexism even a relevant argument in this context? The other player was a female ffs. If this was a vile misogynist pig trying to take down women why not penalise the other player? Oh yeah that's right, because she didn't get instructions from her coach, didn't smash her racket and didn't abuse the umpire. How can anyone, including her biggest fans, defend her on this? She is so in the wrong it's not funny.

          This is as absurd as John McEnroe being hounded to apologise when he gave a honest appraisal of where SW stands in relation to male tennis players.

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          • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

            How is sexism even a relevant argument in this context? The other player was a female ffs. If this was a vile misogynist pig trying to take down women why not penalise the other player? Oh yeah that's right, because she didn't get instructions from her coach, didn't smash her racket and didn't abuse the umpire. How can anyone, including her biggest fans, defend her on this? She is so in the wrong it's not funny.

            This is as absurd as John McEnroe being hounded to apologise when he gave a honest appraisal of where SW stands in relation to male tennis players.

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            MN5
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            #263

            @rancid-schnitzel said in Tennis:

            How is sexism even a relevant argument in this context? The other player was a female ffs. If this was a vile misogynist pig trying to take down women why not penalise the other player? Oh yeah that's right, because she didn't get instructions from her coach, didn't smash her racket and didn't abuse the umpire. How can anyone, including her biggest fans, defend her on this? She is so in the wrong it's not funny.

            This is as absurd as John McEnroe being hounded to apologise when he gave a honest appraisal of where SW stands in relation to male tennis players.

            Asian too brudda. Not that SJWs care about facts like that.

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            • MN5M MN5

              @rancid-schnitzel said in Tennis:

              How is sexism even a relevant argument in this context? The other player was a female ffs. If this was a vile misogynist pig trying to take down women why not penalise the other player? Oh yeah that's right, because she didn't get instructions from her coach, didn't smash her racket and didn't abuse the umpire. How can anyone, including her biggest fans, defend her on this? She is so in the wrong it's not funny.

              This is as absurd as John McEnroe being hounded to apologise when he gave a honest appraisal of where SW stands in relation to male tennis players.

              Asian too brudda. Not that SJWs care about facts like that.

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              Rancid Schnitzel
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              @mn5 said in Tennis:

              @rancid-schnitzel said in Tennis:

              How is sexism even a relevant argument in this context? The other player was a female ffs. If this was a vile misogynist pig trying to take down women why not penalise the other player? Oh yeah that's right, because she didn't get instructions from her coach, didn't smash her racket and didn't abuse the umpire. How can anyone, including her biggest fans, defend her on this? She is so in the wrong it's not funny.

              This is as absurd as John McEnroe being hounded to apologise when he gave a honest appraisal of where SW stands in relation to male tennis players.

              Asian too brudda. Not that SJWs care about facts like that.

              Half Asian and half black! Her dad is Haitian. She's as black as Obama.

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                It's also been reported that the umpire was paid $633 for the final. That's probably less than what SW earns per second. Yet somehow the player worth hundreds of millions and who is married to a tech billionaire is some kind of victim and the guy who correctly did his job and was paid a pittance for doing so is the villain. What kind of fucked up parallel universe are we living in?

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                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                  It's also been reported that the umpire was paid $633 for the final. That's probably less than what SW earns per second. Yet somehow the player worth hundreds of millions and who is married to a tech billionaire is some kind of victim and the guy who correctly did his job and was paid a pittance for doing so is the villain. What kind of fucked up parallel universe are we living in?

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                  MN5
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                  @rancid-schnitzel said in Tennis:

                  It's also been reported that the umpire was paid $633 for the final. That's probably less than what SW earns per second. Yet somehow the player worth hundreds of millions and who is married to a tech billionaire is some kind of victim and the guy who correctly did his job and was paid a pittance for doing so is the villain. What kind of fucked up parallel universe are we living in?

                  Source for that rancid? That can't be right surely.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @mariner4life said in Tennis:

                    While watching coverage of the press conference, and SW doubling down on her bullshit, and the fucking journos applauded her? That's fucked up

                    Americans.

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                    broughie
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                    @antipodean American media more correctly and others on that side of teh ledger.

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                    • TimT Away
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                      Tim
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                      Some time during the last election cycle, every retarded American media woman with "feminist" in their twitter bio (sure sign of acute retardation) decided that Beyonce, and every other "strong black woman", was their hero, and not a single comment would be tolerated that wasn't venerative.

                      It actually made them more risible and irrelevent than before.

                      cf. Peak Guardian
                      cf. Still with her

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Tennis:

                        It's also been reported that the umpire was paid $633 for the final. That's probably less than what SW earns per second. Yet somehow the player worth hundreds of millions and who is married to a tech billionaire is some kind of victim and the guy who correctly did his job and was paid a pittance for doing so is the villain. What kind of fucked up parallel universe are we living in?

                        Source for that rancid? That can't be right surely.

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                        Rancid Schnitzel
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                        @mn5 said in Tennis:

                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Tennis:

                        It's also been reported that the umpire was paid $633 for the final. That's probably less than what SW earns per second. Yet somehow the player worth hundreds of millions and who is married to a tech billionaire is some kind of victim and the guy who correctly did his job and was paid a pittance for doing so is the villain. What kind of fucked up parallel universe are we living in?

                        Source for that rancid? That can't be right surely.

                        That's what it says here
                        https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/sport/tennis/incredible-truth-about-chair-umpire-in-serena-williams-controversy/news-story/d0411d6458db5fdbd74dfc58b0f5ecb8

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                        • Chester DrawsC Offline
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                          Chester Draws
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                          #270

                          Serena has always been a poor loser. I've disliked her since her career began for it.

                          In the early days, when she lost it was because she was sick or injured. Never because she was outplayed.

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                          • VirgilV Do not disturb
                            VirgilV Do not disturb
                            Virgil
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                            #271

                            Hope that was her last shot at wining another grand slam tournament.
                            She doesn’t deserve to create history

                            Didn’t she sulk and bitch when she played in Auckland earlier this year?

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                            • VirgilV Virgil

                              Hope that was her last shot at wining another grand slam tournament.
                              She doesn’t deserve to create history

                              Didn’t she sulk and bitch when she played in Auckland earlier this year?

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                              taniwharugby
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                              #272

                              @virgil too windy, never gonna come back....

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                              • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                Serena has always been a poor loser. I've disliked her since her career began for it.

                                In the early days, when she lost it was because she was sick or injured. Never because she was outplayed.

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                                #273

                                @chester-draws said in Tennis:

                                Serena has always been a poor loser. I've disliked her since her career began for it.

                                In the early days, when she lost it was because she was sick or injured. Never because she was outplayed.

                                That is exactly correct!

                                She would sometimes start limping when she was losing.

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @virgil too windy, never gonna come back....

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                                  MN5
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                                  @taniwharugby said in Tennis:

                                  @virgil too windy, never gonna come back....

                                  Fuck, lucky she didn't turn up for a hit at the Renouf Centre

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Some time during the last election cycle, every retarded American media woman with "feminist" in their twitter bio (sure sign of acute retardation) decided that Beyonce, and every other "strong black woman", was their hero, and not a single comment would be tolerated that wasn't venerative.

                                    It actually made them more risible and irrelevent than before.

                                    cf. Peak Guardian
                                    cf. Still with her

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                                    jegga
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #275

                                    @tim said in Tennis:

                                    Some time during the last election cycle, every retarded American media woman with "feminist" in their twitter bio (sure sign of acute retardation) decided that Beyonce, and every other "strong black woman", was their hero, and not a single comment would be tolerated that wasn't venerative.

                                    It actually made them more risible and irrelevent than before.

                                    cf. Peak Guardian
                                    cf. Still with her

                                    Ffs Tim , it’s perfectly understandable. White women even weaponise their tears.

                                    https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability?__twitter_impression=true

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                                    • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                      Serena has always been a poor loser. I've disliked her since her career began for it.

                                      In the early days, when she lost it was because she was sick or injured. Never because she was outplayed.

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                                      Sneakdefreak
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                                      #276

                                      @chester-draws said in Tennis:

                                      Serena has always been a poor loser. I've disliked her since her career began for it.

                                      In the early days, when she lost it was because she was sick or injured. Never because she was outplayed.

                                      Bingo. Her whole act yesterday was no different to the kids I grew up playing against who were unhappy with a call not going their way i.e Find your excuse and stick to it.

                                      Serena's advantage is the American media back her to the hilt and that means other players etc have to come out on her side or risk being attacked in the biggest media market. Unless Federer said something. He's probably the only one who would be allowed.

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                                        MajorStokes
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                                        #277

                                        I am a little shocked and surprised at the amount of people who are coming out in support of her for sexism. I'm clearly not a modern thinker, as I'm logical, and not prepared to make inferences everywhere to suit my argument and base them as fact.

                                        If I try and give some balance to my position on this, she's always been a hell of a competitor, driven like fuck and undoubtedly has faced discrimination in the wealthy white dominated tennis world in the U.S. If she didn't receive coaching and she was docked a point for it, you can't really blame her for being livid about it ... although perhaps being livid against her coach would be the more appropriate place to vent her anger.

                                        The thing that really fucks me off though is the way she claims about being treated differently and immediately starts throwing racism and/or sexism cards around. It's like she has no idea that despite being (and declaring herself) to be one of/if not the greatest woman's tennis player ever, that would being her under more scrutiny. She in herself, is probably a billion dollar business. Billion dollar businesses GET MORE SCRUTINY.

                                        My favorite thing I've read online about this is from some SJW called Rebecca Morgan ... shows a video of her getting some shit calls in 2004 as some sort of bastion as to why she had the right to lose her shit and ruin Osaka's day, but then writes this superb piece ..

                                        "She is right; this has happened to her too many times. She is a black woman penetrating a space historically dominated by white men"

                                        Boom. White men. The source of all evil, and apparently, once upon a time the best female tennis players ever.

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                                        • SiamS Offline
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                                          Siam
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                                          #278

                                          Two excellent posts suggesting that Serena faced racial discrimination in tennis.

                                          I wonder....

                                          Excelling at sport in a sporting community has a way of negating skin colour in my opinion.

                                          Look, we can't ever know what it's like being a black woman in America.

                                          This Serena nonsense is an amalgamation of both these immutable characteristics, but pertaining to the race part I reference this, (it's a reliable source on a landscape starved of authenticity I reckon):

                                          Should we water down the, racial vilification of all black U.S. citizens, pity or empathy that a good kiwi upbringing demands of us?

                                          I dunno, perhaps a bit?

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