Hurricanes 2022
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@foobanz said in Hurricanes 2022:
My worry as usual with this coaching group is more the selections than the squad. There is a lot of quality and depth this year but if they choose the same old shit we're boned.
Please no more Prinsep, JGB & Blackwell. Please!
I like the Walden & PUJ midfield, but I think they'll go PUJ Proctor. Proctor has thankfully improved a lot recently.
I can tell you right now that you'll likely see a lot of Blackwell this year due to injuries already. I think there is a little more hope that JGB and Prinsep will be ousted at some point.
@bobily2 said in Hurricanes 2022:
@foobanz said in Hurricanes 2022:
My worry as usual with this coaching group is more the selections than the squad. There is a lot of quality and depth this year but if they choose the same old shit we're boned.
Please no more Prinsep, JGB & Blackwell. Please!
I like the Walden & PUJ midfield, but I think they'll go PUJ Proctor. Proctor has thankfully improved a lot recently.
I can tell you right now that you'll likely see a lot of Blackwell this year due to injuries already. I think there is a little more hope that JGB and Prinsep will be ousted at some point.
I not a huge Blackwell fan, but don't think he a poor player, just not big enough, he certainly a huge toiler. I live in hope that Love or someone will come on at 10, same as I would love to see Flanders make 6 his own. As I said as a Canes'man this is the best time , when we still full of hope!!
Even if realisticallyI can't see us making top 4. -
Not counting those injured, who's everyone picking for their first 23 of the season, I'd be happy if we selected the below:
- Numia
- Coles
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Scrafton
- Howden
- Savea (c)
- Flanders
- Perenara
- Love
- Rayasi
- Walden
- Umaga Jensen
- Goosen
- Barrett
- Aumua
- Rakete-Stones
- Mafileo
- Delany
- Iose
- Judd
- Garden-Bachop
- Proctor
Not available due to injury: Isaia Walker-Leawere, Owen Franks, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubasher, Cam Roigard, Jamie Booth
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Not counting those injured, who's everyone picking for their first 23 of the season, I'd be happy if we selected the below:
- Numia
- Coles
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Scrafton
- Howden
- Savea (c)
- Flanders
- Perenara
- Love
- Rayasi
- Walden
- Umaga Jensen
- Goosen
- Barrett
- Aumua
- Rakete-Stones
- Mafileo
- Delany
- Iose
- Judd
- Garden-Bachop
- Proctor
Not available due to injury: Isaia Walker-Leawere, Owen Franks, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubasher, Cam Roigard, Jamie Booth
@canes4life come on you know deep down that Garden-Bachop will be starting
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Not counting those injured, who's everyone picking for their first 23 of the season, I'd be happy if we selected the below:
- Numia
- Coles
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Scrafton
- Howden
- Savea (c)
- Flanders
- Perenara
- Love
- Rayasi
- Walden
- Umaga Jensen
- Goosen
- Barrett
- Aumua
- Rakete-Stones
- Mafileo
- Delany
- Iose
- Judd
- Garden-Bachop
- Proctor
Not available due to injury: Isaia Walker-Leawere, Owen Franks, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubasher, Cam Roigard, Jamie Booth
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@canes4life Do you think Sullivan heads south to be outside the 23?
@bovidae not saying I agree with it but the Canes have invested too much into Proctor for him to be behind Sullivan in their setup, also Sullivan isn’t better than Walden/Umaga-Jensen so yes he misses out on that 23 for me, unless he can grab one of those wing spots. Not saying he’s a bad player or anything I just think he might have to wait a few games before getting an opportunity.
@Crucial wouldn’t be surprised if half the team I’ve picked above don’t even feature for the Canes in that first game, especially if you go from Holland’s selections previously.
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@bovidae not saying I agree with it but the Canes have invested too much into Proctor for him to be behind Sullivan in their setup, also Sullivan isn’t better than Walden/Umaga-Jensen so yes he misses out on that 23 for me, unless he can grab one of those wing spots. Not saying he’s a bad player or anything I just think he might have to wait a few games before getting an opportunity.
@Crucial wouldn’t be surprised if half the team I’ve picked above don’t even feature for the Canes in that first game, especially if you go from Holland’s selections previously.
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
@bovidae not saying I agree with it but the Canes have invested too much into Proctor for him to be behind Sullivan in their setup, also Sullivan isn’t better than Walden/Umaga-Jensen so yes he misses out on that 23 for me, unless he can grab one of those wing spots. Not saying he’s a bad player or anything I just think he might have to wait a few games before getting an opportunity.
@Crucial wouldn’t be surprised if half the team I’ve picked above don’t even feature for the Canes in that first game, especially if you go from Holland’s selections previously.
How do you compare Walden to Umaga-Jensen? (I mean, who would you rank higher?)
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
@bovidae not saying I agree with it but the Canes have invested too much into Proctor for him to be behind Sullivan in their setup, also Sullivan isn’t better than Walden/Umaga-Jensen so yes he misses out on that 23 for me, unless he can grab one of those wing spots. Not saying he’s a bad player or anything I just think he might have to wait a few games before getting an opportunity.
@Crucial wouldn’t be surprised if half the team I’ve picked above don’t even feature for the Canes in that first game, especially if you go from Holland’s selections previously.
How do you compare Walden to Umaga-Jensen? (I mean, who would you rank higher?)
@nostrildamus hard to say as they have completely different skill sets but together I think they would compliment each other really well as a combination. All I know is they are above both Proctor and Sullivan in my pecking order, however that’s probably completely different to how old mate Holland sees it.
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Not counting those injured, who's everyone picking for their first 23 of the season, I'd be happy if we selected the below:
- Numia
- Coles
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Scrafton
- Howden
- Savea (c)
- Flanders
- Perenara
- Love
- Rayasi
- Walden
- Umaga Jensen
- Goosen
- Barrett
- Aumua
- Rakete-Stones
- Mafileo
- Delany
- Iose
- Judd
- Garden-Bachop
- Proctor
Not available due to injury: Isaia Walker-Leawere, Owen Franks, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubasher, Cam Roigard, Jamie Booth
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
Not counting those injured, who's everyone picking for their first 23 of the season, I'd be happy if we selected the below:
- Numia
- Coles
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Scrafton
- Howden
- Savea (c)
- Flanders
- Perenara
- Love
- Rayasi
- Walden
- Umaga Jensen
- Goosen
- Barrett
- Aumua
- Rakete-Stones
- Mafileo
- Delany
- Iose
- Judd
- Garden-Bachop
- Proctor
Not available due to injury: Isaia Walker-Leawere, Owen Franks, Dominic Bird, Tyler Laubasher, Cam Roigard, Jamie Booth
Parsons >>> Blackwell
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Loosies - would be Flanders {6}, Kirifi {7}, Seavea {8}
Midfielders - Umaga-Jensen at 13... 12 certainly isn't clear though, have to see who performs the best out of Proctor & Walden.
Back 3 - Barrett, Rayasi & Goosen are brilliant players, just hope our forwards can give them consistently decent platforms to attack from. -
Loosies - would be Flanders {6}, Kirifi {7}, Seavea {8}
Midfielders - Umaga-Jensen at 13... 12 certainly isn't clear though, have to see who performs the best out of Proctor & Walden.
Back 3 - Barrett, Rayasi & Goosen are brilliant players, just hope our forwards can give them consistently decent platforms to attack from.@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
Loosies - would be Flanders {6}, Kirifi {7}, Seavea {8}
Midfielders - Umaga-Jensen at 13... 12 certainly isn't clear though, have to see who performs the best out of Proctor & Walden.
Back 3 - Barrett, Rayasi & Goosen are brilliant players, just hope our forwards can give them consistently decent platforms to attack from.Proctors isn't a 12. UJ could be
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
Loosies - would be Flanders {6}, Kirifi {7}, Seavea {8}
Midfielders - Umaga-Jensen at 13... 12 certainly isn't clear though, have to see who performs the best out of Proctor & Walden.
Back 3 - Barrett, Rayasi & Goosen are brilliant players, just hope our forwards can give them consistently decent platforms to attack from.Proctors isn't a 12. UJ could be
@winger said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
Loosies - would be Flanders {6}, Kirifi {7}, Seavea {8}
Midfielders - Umaga-Jensen at 13... 12 certainly isn't clear though, have to see who performs the best out of Proctor & Walden.
Back 3 - Barrett, Rayasi & Goosen are brilliant players, just hope our forwards can give them consistently decent platforms to attack from.Proctors isn't a 12. UJ could be
All midfielders should be able to play at 13 or 12... but agreed, UJ tends to suit 12 better as the position is closer to the rucks where a lot of the traffic is, giving him a better chance of getting past the advantage line consistently more than another midfielder that might not have the power he has.
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Concerning the midfield, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Bailyn Sullivan. he was the form centre during the NPC. I'd like a combo with 12.PUJ and 13.Sullivan.
I also hope Higgins could get some time on the paddock as he is a very good prospect. He is a strongly built second five, and he could be useful in a position where options are not great. -
Concerning the midfield, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Bailyn Sullivan. he was the form centre during the NPC. I'd like a combo with 12.PUJ and 13.Sullivan.
I also hope Higgins could get some time on the paddock as he is a very good prospect. He is a strongly built second five, and he could be useful in a position where options are not great. -
Concerning the midfield, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Bailyn Sullivan. he was the form centre during the NPC. I'd like a combo with 12.PUJ and 13.Sullivan.
I also hope Higgins could get some time on the paddock as he is a very good prospect. He is a strongly built second five, and he could be useful in a position where options are not great. -
@tim said in Hurricanes 2022:
@cgrant said in Hurricanes 2022:
Bailyn Sullivan
A bit small for Super Rugby?
1.87 m / 94 kg. Not that small.
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Concerning the midfield, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Bailyn Sullivan. he was the form centre during the NPC. I'd like a combo with 12.PUJ and 13.Sullivan.
I also hope Higgins could get some time on the paddock as he is a very good prospect. He is a strongly built second five, and he could be useful in a position where options are not great.@cgrant agreed, Higgins has a massive future but like other Under 20 players in Love and Godfrey, they just need time to develop.
I think Higgins will learn alot from Walden this year, he's bigger than Walden but they both have a very similar style of how they go about things. Higgins just needs to be a sponge this year, I don't think he will get many minutes, if any.
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The A.B lads are back in town:
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https://www.rugbypass.com/news/julian-savea-to-captain-hurricanes-in-pre-season-clash-against-blues/
- Xavier Numia
- Siua Maile
- Ben May
- Tom Parsons
- Caleb Delany
- Peter Lakai
- Du’Plessis Kirifi
- Devan Flanders
- Logan Henry
- Ruben Love
- Salesi Rayasi
- Riley Higgins
- Billy Proctor
- Julian Savea (c)
- Josh Moorby
REPLACEMENTS: Jacob Devery, Raymond Tuputupu, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Alex Fidow, Pasilio Tosi, Tevita Mafileo, Justin Sangster, James Blackwell, Ofa Tauatavalu, Te kamaka Howden, Shamus Hurley-Langton, Brayden Iose, Leroy Carter, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Aidan Morgan, Wes Goosen, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Bailyn Sullivan, Nehe Milner-Skudder
