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Hurricanes 2022

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Higgins interesting to see Isaac Bracewell and Sam Smith now plying their trade in HB.

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    @Canes4life I have watched Isaac for the last few years as he plied his trade with my Axemen. Even went on that Hurricanes Development Trip to Japan but did not seem to get the breaks with Wellington come the rep season. Maybe they think he is a little on the slight side body wise compared to some of the bigger halfbacks. Here is an interesting feature on this well spoken young man

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      @Bovidae I haven't seen a squad for this game. I suppose it wat the full Hurricanes U20 squad named in March.

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      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2022:

      @Bovidae I haven't seen a squad for this game. I suppose it wat the full Hurricanes U20 squad named in March.

      I see Darren Larsen is the head coach so expect it will see all 13 of the Wellington players in the squad shoe horned into the starting line up with the remainder (12 Manawatu, 7 HB and 1 Wanganui) fighting over the crumbs. Oh Mr. Larsen will probably shove in a few other Wellington Academy players as well.

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      • HigginsH Higgins

        @Canes4life I have watched Isaac for the last few years as he plied his trade with my Axemen. Even went on that Hurricanes Development Trip to Japan but did not seem to get the breaks with Wellington come the rep season. Maybe they think he is a little on the slight side body wise compared to some of the bigger halfbacks. Here is an interesting feature on this well spoken young man

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        @Higgins what a lad! good to see him rep ories. i watched Isaac play for ories prems for a couple games at start of the season guttered he left! was an awesome assett played both 9, 10 brought such good energy with him. great skills/fitness is nek level. sad to see these youngins have to ply their trade elsewhere due to not even being considered even when being in wellington academy. That would mean club rugby players have no chance. So good on him and wish him all the best.. Otide!

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          Looks like Scrafton is off to Benetton (from his Instragram).

          https://benettonrugby.it/scott-scrafton-e-la-nuova-seconda-linea-dei-leoni/

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            Looks like Scrafton is off to Benetton (from his Instragram).

            https://benettonrugby.it/scott-scrafton-e-la-nuova-seconda-linea-dei-leoni/

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            @Tim Not at all surprising really now that he has finally grasped the reality that he will never unseat the regular starting number four at the Hurricanes.

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            • HigginsH Higgins

              @Tim Not at all surprising really now that he has finally grasped the reality that he will never unseat the regular starting number four at the Hurricanes.

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              @Higgins said in Hurricanes 2022:

              @Tim Not at all surprising really now that he has finally grasped the reality that he will never unseat the regular starting number four at the Hurricanes.

              He is 29.. Surprised he stayed for this long

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                @Higgins said in Hurricanes 2022:

                @Tim Not at all surprising really now that he has finally grasped the reality that he will never unseat the regular starting number four at the Hurricanes.

                He is 29.. Surprised he stayed for this long

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                @Winger Still younger than Sam Whitelock and Luke Romano just as two examples. And there is that other guy that plays for Ta$man that must be over 40 by now that also features in Super Rugby from time to time, Alex Ainsley might be his name?

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                • HigginsH Higgins

                  @Winger Still younger than Sam Whitelock and Luke Romano just as two examples. And there is that other guy that plays for Ta$man that must be over 40 by now that also features in Super Rugby from time to time, Alex Ainsley might be his name?

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                  @Higgins Haha, not this year.

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                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-midfield-is-where-i-want-to-end-up-julian-savea-wants-all-blacks-no-12-jersey/

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                          Devan Flanders playing clug rugby tomorrow for Havelock North. Now the Hurricanes only have to beat the Brumbies, for him to be able to run out in black & yellow again, this season.

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                            Does anyone want to write a review of the Canes season, like Southernmann did for the Highlanders? Or a more positive thing looking towards 2023?

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              Does anyone want to write a review of the Canes season, like Southernmann did for the Highlanders? Or a more positive thing looking towards 2023?

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                              @Duluth I will write something up.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Does anyone want to write a review of the Canes season, like Southernmann did for the Highlanders? Or a more positive thing looking towards 2023?

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                                @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2022:

                                Does anyone want to write a review of the Canes season, like Southernmann did for the Highlanders? Or a more positive thing looking towards 2023?

                                Simple:

                                Shit results, garbage coaching & decent talent emerging

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                                  @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2022:

                                  Does anyone want to write a review of the Canes season, like Southernmann did for the Highlanders? Or a more positive thing looking towards 2023?

                                  Simple:

                                  Shit results, garbage coaching & decent talent emerging

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                                  @Mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2022:

                                  @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2022:

                                  Does anyone want to write a review of the Canes season, like Southernmann did for the Highlanders? Or a more positive thing looking towards 2023?

                                  Simple:

                                  Shit results, garbage coaching & decent talent emerging

                                  And leaving.

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                                    Where do we start with the Hurricanes in 2022? A topsy turvy season ultimately ended with a rather large thud on a cold brisk night in Canberra over the weekend and it was a game that summed up their season perfectly.

                                    The story of the year for the Canes has been their inconsistency in performance. They’ve shown flashes of brilliance, but they’ve also shown major frailties in their game that continue to cost them when it matters most.

                                    There are three areas the Hurricanes must improve on if they are going to threaten for the title in 2023.

                                    1. Set piece and maul defence: once again the Hurricanes really struggled to gain any sort of parity upfront and at line-out time against the stronger sides in 2022, especially when the game was on the line. They weren’t the worst team in the league by any stretch but when it came down to big moments in big games, they failed to deliver. Narrow losses to the Crusaders, Chiefs and most recently the Brumbies on Saturday highlighted a real need to improve in this area for 2023.

                                    2. Inconsistency in selection: to the bemusement of most fans on social media and plenty of Canes fans on here, I don’t think Holland selected the same XV for more than one game this year, instead choosing to rotate his squad in the hope of keeping them fresh, while navigating a COVID interrupted schedule. Inconsistency in selection ultimately meant inconsistency in performance for this team and it will be something they should be looking to improve on strategically for 2023.

                                    3. Relying too heavily on the Canes big four: The Hurricanes revolve their game around four players - Jordie Barrett, TJ Perenara, Ardie Savea and Dane Coles and this season was no different. Take two or more of them out of the side and the Canes will usually drop a level or two in performance. Again, this was no more evident than their most recent performance against the Brumbies on Saturday. Going forward they need to figure out how to compete at the highest level without those four players. If they can do that next year, they will be in with a shout.

                                    Stocks on the rise:
                                    It wasn’t all doom and gloom for the Hurricanes in 2022. Besides the big four, Justin Sangster, Aiden Morgan, Josh Moorby, TK Howden, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Brayden Iose and Bailyn Sullivan all made statement performances throughout the year and they will all be looking to take that form into 2023.

                                    Stocks that plummeted in 2023:

                                    Asafo Aumua, Peter Umaga-Jensen and Tyrel Lomax probably had campaigns to forget for different reasons. They’ve all spent time in the All Black’s environment but probably didn't enhance their credentials in 2022. Hopefully they can find their form again in the NPC so they can hit the ground running for the Canes in 2023.

                                    Where do we need to recruit for 2023?

                                    Tight five: this was a seriously weak area for the Canes in 2022 so getting both a world-class prop and a world-class lock will be high on the agenda for them during the off-season.

                                    Wings: with the reliable Wes Goosen moving on, the Canes need to find a couple of wingers to add to their arsenal. Whether that’s targeting players from other franchises or looking to the NPC for a couple gold nuggets, they will be on the hunt for a couple classy finishers to add depth to an area that has historically been a strength.

                                    Season grade: 5/10

                                    Hurricanes awards, highlights and lowlights for 2022:

                                    MVP: Ardie Savea
                                    Rookie of the year: Josh Moorby (honourable mentions - Justin Sangster, Aiden Morgan)
                                    Most improved: Bailyn Sullivan
                                    Magic moment: Ardie Savea’s match winner against the Blues in Dunedin.
                                    Best performance: vs Blues
                                    Worst performance: vs Moana Pasifika

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      Where do we start with the Hurricanes in 2022? A topsy turvy season ultimately ended with a rather large thud on a cold brisk night in Canberra over the weekend and it was a game that summed up their season perfectly.

                                      The story of the year for the Canes has been their inconsistency in performance. They’ve shown flashes of brilliance, but they’ve also shown major frailties in their game that continue to cost them when it matters most.

                                      There are three areas the Hurricanes must improve on if they are going to threaten for the title in 2023.

                                      1. Set piece and maul defence: once again the Hurricanes really struggled to gain any sort of parity upfront and at line-out time against the stronger sides in 2022, especially when the game was on the line. They weren’t the worst team in the league by any stretch but when it came down to big moments in big games, they failed to deliver. Narrow losses to the Crusaders, Chiefs and most recently the Brumbies on Saturday highlighted a real need to improve in this area for 2023.

                                      2. Inconsistency in selection: to the bemusement of most fans on social media and plenty of Canes fans on here, I don’t think Holland selected the same XV for more than one game this year, instead choosing to rotate his squad in the hope of keeping them fresh, while navigating a COVID interrupted schedule. Inconsistency in selection ultimately meant inconsistency in performance for this team and it will be something they should be looking to improve on strategically for 2023.

                                      3. Relying too heavily on the Canes big four: The Hurricanes revolve their game around four players - Jordie Barrett, TJ Perenara, Ardie Savea and Dane Coles and this season was no different. Take two or more of them out of the side and the Canes will usually drop a level or two in performance. Again, this was no more evident than their most recent performance against the Brumbies on Saturday. Going forward they need to figure out how to compete at the highest level without those four players. If they can do that next year, they will be in with a shout.

                                      Stocks on the rise:
                                      It wasn’t all doom and gloom for the Hurricanes in 2022. Besides the big four, Justin Sangster, Aiden Morgan, Josh Moorby, TK Howden, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Brayden Iose and Bailyn Sullivan all made statement performances throughout the year and they will all be looking to take that form into 2023.

                                      Stocks that plummeted in 2023:

                                      Asafo Aumua, Peter Umaga-Jensen and Tyrel Lomax probably had campaigns to forget for different reasons. They’ve all spent time in the All Black’s environment but probably didn't enhance their credentials in 2022. Hopefully they can find their form again in the NPC so they can hit the ground running for the Canes in 2023.

                                      Where do we need to recruit for 2023?

                                      Tight five: this was a seriously weak area for the Canes in 2022 so getting both a world-class prop and a world-class lock will be high on the agenda for them during the off-season.

                                      Wings: with the reliable Wes Goosen moving on, the Canes need to find a couple of wingers to add to their arsenal. Whether that’s targeting players from other franchises or looking to the NPC for a couple gold nuggets, they will be on the hunt for a couple classy finishers to add depth to an area that has historically been a strength.

                                      Season grade: 5/10

                                      Hurricanes awards, highlights and lowlights for 2022:

                                      MVP: Ardie Savea
                                      Rookie of the year: Josh Moorby (honourable mentions - Justin Sangster, Aiden Morgan)
                                      Most improved: Bailyn Sullivan
                                      Magic moment: Ardie Savea’s match winner against the Blues in Dunedin.
                                      Best performance: vs Blues
                                      Worst performance: vs Moana Pasifika

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                                      @Canes4life this is making me realise we only got to see the canes clash with the blues once this season.. will the draw in terms of the 3 additional derby games you play be shaken up next season?

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                                      • GrooterG Grooter

                                        @Canes4life this is making me realise we only got to see the canes clash with the blues once this season.. will the draw in terms of the 3 additional derby games you play be shaken up next season?

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                                        @FakatavaFuture said in Hurricanes 2022:

                                        @Canes4life this is making me realise we only got to see the canes clash with the blues once this season.. will the draw in terms of the 3 additional derby games you play be shaken up next season?

                                        The line from SANZAR is it is based on seeding with an emphasis on derbys. Whatever the fuck that means, but you'd imagine they would move the double ups around

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          Where do we start with the Hurricanes in 2022? A topsy turvy season ultimately ended with a rather large thud on a cold brisk night in Canberra over the weekend and it was a game that summed up their season perfectly.

                                          The story of the year for the Canes has been their inconsistency in performance. They’ve shown flashes of brilliance, but they’ve also shown major frailties in their game that continue to cost them when it matters most.

                                          There are three areas the Hurricanes must improve on if they are going to threaten for the title in 2023.

                                          1. Set piece and maul defence: once again the Hurricanes really struggled to gain any sort of parity upfront and at line-out time against the stronger sides in 2022, especially when the game was on the line. They weren’t the worst team in the league by any stretch but when it came down to big moments in big games, they failed to deliver. Narrow losses to the Crusaders, Chiefs and most recently the Brumbies on Saturday highlighted a real need to improve in this area for 2023.

                                          2. Inconsistency in selection: to the bemusement of most fans on social media and plenty of Canes fans on here, I don’t think Holland selected the same XV for more than one game this year, instead choosing to rotate his squad in the hope of keeping them fresh, while navigating a COVID interrupted schedule. Inconsistency in selection ultimately meant inconsistency in performance for this team and it will be something they should be looking to improve on strategically for 2023.

                                          3. Relying too heavily on the Canes big four: The Hurricanes revolve their game around four players - Jordie Barrett, TJ Perenara, Ardie Savea and Dane Coles and this season was no different. Take two or more of them out of the side and the Canes will usually drop a level or two in performance. Again, this was no more evident than their most recent performance against the Brumbies on Saturday. Going forward they need to figure out how to compete at the highest level without those four players. If they can do that next year, they will be in with a shout.

                                          Stocks on the rise:
                                          It wasn’t all doom and gloom for the Hurricanes in 2022. Besides the big four, Justin Sangster, Aiden Morgan, Josh Moorby, TK Howden, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Brayden Iose and Bailyn Sullivan all made statement performances throughout the year and they will all be looking to take that form into 2023.

                                          Stocks that plummeted in 2023:

                                          Asafo Aumua, Peter Umaga-Jensen and Tyrel Lomax probably had campaigns to forget for different reasons. They’ve all spent time in the All Black’s environment but probably didn't enhance their credentials in 2022. Hopefully they can find their form again in the NPC so they can hit the ground running for the Canes in 2023.

                                          Where do we need to recruit for 2023?

                                          Tight five: this was a seriously weak area for the Canes in 2022 so getting both a world-class prop and a world-class lock will be high on the agenda for them during the off-season.

                                          Wings: with the reliable Wes Goosen moving on, the Canes need to find a couple of wingers to add to their arsenal. Whether that’s targeting players from other franchises or looking to the NPC for a couple gold nuggets, they will be on the hunt for a couple classy finishers to add depth to an area that has historically been a strength.

                                          Season grade: 5/10

                                          Hurricanes awards, highlights and lowlights for 2022:

                                          MVP: Ardie Savea
                                          Rookie of the year: Josh Moorby (honourable mentions - Justin Sangster, Aiden Morgan)
                                          Most improved: Bailyn Sullivan
                                          Magic moment: Ardie Savea’s match winner against the Blues in Dunedin.
                                          Best performance: vs Blues
                                          Worst performance: vs Moana Pasifika

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                                          @Canes4life

                                          On the recruitment, I think you'll probably pick up Plumtree. He's off contract, stuck behind very good players and he would start every week for the Canes

                                          If only Kirifi had an IQ higher than 70 you'd have a very good backrow

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