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Blues 2022

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    Romano has signed as not wanted by crusaders. Kata signed with MP.
    Segner signed for 3 times as much as crusaders offered. Better players in crusaders academy.

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    @chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:

    Romano has signed as not wanted by crusaders. Kata signed with MP.
    Segner signed for 3 times as much as crusaders offered. Better players in crusaders academy.

    Agree I don't think Segner is ready for SR.

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    • C chchfanatic

      Romano has signed as not wanted by crusaders. Kata signed with MP.
      Segner signed for 3 times as much as crusaders offered. Better players in crusaders academy.

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      @chchfanatic Big call to make about unproven players. Segner has the tools, he just needs to add a bit of man strength to his game, and learning from one of the best 7s in the country Dalton Papali'i will help develop his game.

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        @chchfanatic Big call to make about unproven players. Segner has the tools, he just needs to add a bit of man strength to his game, and learning from one of the best 7s in the country Dalton Papali'i will help develop his game.

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        @african-monkey if he wasn’t German would he have all the hype. Guys like Dom Gardiner ,Fletcher Anderson , Corey Kellow , Joe Brial are just as good. You have to remember there is a salary cap in super rugby too.

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          @african-monkey if he wasn’t German would he have all the hype. Guys like Dom Gardiner ,Fletcher Anderson , Corey Kellow , Joe Brial are just as good. You have to remember there is a salary cap in super rugby too.

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          @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

          In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

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            @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

            In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

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            @african-monkey yeah I meant the story of a German kid trying to make abs. Not him being german. He’s good but the money he is being paid is he worth the salary cap space.

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              @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

              In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

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              @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

              @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

              In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

              Think you will find Corey Kellow will be a much better 7 than Segner in the future.
              Time will tell on Segner but I don't think he is a SR player by a long way as yet.

              edit. Kellow also is a year younger than Segner.

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                @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

                @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

                In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

                Think you will find Corey Kellow will be a much better 7 than Segner in the future.
                Time will tell on Segner but I don't think he is a SR player by a long way as yet.

                edit. Kellow also is a year younger than Segner.

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                @chris said in Blues 2022:

                Corey Kellow

                Another Auckland boy. Loose forward factory.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

                  @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

                  In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

                  Think you will find Corey Kellow will be a much better 7 than Segner in the future.
                  Time will tell on Segner but I don't think he is a SR player by a long way as yet.

                  edit. Kellow also is a year younger than Segner.

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                  @chris said in Blues 2022:

                  @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

                  @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

                  In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

                  Think you will find Corey Kellow will be a much better 7 than Segner in the future.
                  Time will tell on Segner but I don't think he is a SR player by a long way as yet.

                  edit. Kellow also is a year younger than Segner.

                  Agreed. For me, Kellow looked like the best loose forward in the Crusaders U20 team this year.

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                    @chris said in Blues 2022:

                    Corey Kellow

                    Another Auckland boy. Loose forward factory.

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                    @tim said in Blues 2022:

                    @chris said in Blues 2022:

                    Corey Kellow

                    Another Auckland boy. Loose forward factory.

                    We pinch some you pinch some the merry go round continues.:grinning_face_with_big_eyes:

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

                      @chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.

                      In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.

                      Think you will find Corey Kellow will be a much better 7 than Segner in the future.
                      Time will tell on Segner but I don't think he is a SR player by a long way as yet.

                      edit. Kellow also is a year younger than Segner.

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                      @chris He may well be, I never disputed that at all.

                      I just think the Segner signing is getting played down a bit when personally, I think it could be a good investment for the Blues. As @chchfanatic alluded to, the Crusaders couldn't match the offer and have plenty of 7s coming through so it may not be a huge loss for them, but it could still prove to be a very good signing for the Blues going forward. We've produced a lot of good loosies ourselves and our recruitment of late has been very very good so yeah, I don't see why we can't get the best out of Segner.

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                      • C chchfanatic

                        Romano has signed as not wanted by crusaders. Kata signed with MP.
                        Segner signed for 3 times as much as crusaders offered. Better players in crusaders academy.

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                        @chchfanatic are u saying Luke Romano signing for blues ,think kata might b to

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                          The Blues coaches will need to decide what Segner's best position is in the long-term. He has played in all 3 loose forward positions in different teams over the last 2 years.

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                            The Blues coaches will need to decide what Segner's best position is in the long-term. He has played in all 3 loose forward positions in different teams over the last 2 years.

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                            @bovidae hold turn into a top 7 I’m thinking he has time to learn from the best in Papalii and has good size

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                              @bovidae hold turn into a top 7 I’m thinking he has time to learn from the best in Papalii and has good size

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                              @george33 said in Blues 2022:

                              @bovidae hold turn into a top 7 I’m thinking he has time to learn from the best in Papalii and has good size

                              I think he will be a 7 too. Segner is a similar height to Papalii and will continue to add some weight.

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                                @chchfanatic are u saying Luke Romano signing for blues ,think kata might b to

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                                chchfanatic
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                                @george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair. Should retire , been a great servant.
                                Kata has signed with Moana Pacifica

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                                  @george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair. Should retire , been a great servant.
                                  Kata has signed with Moana Pacifica

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                                  @chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:

                                  @george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair. Should retire , been a great servant.

                                  Good fit with the Blues missing Pat T. He won't win us games, but he shouldn't lose us too many either, and the experience will be gold in a young squad. One of his key KPI should be how good the other locks get working with him 🙂

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                                    @george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair. Should retire , been a great servant.
                                    Kata has signed with Moana Pacifica

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                                    @chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:

                                    @george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair at SR level. Should retire , been a great servant.
                                    Kata has signed with Moana Pacifica

                                    Made that a bit clearer. He's been great at NPC level. I'm also not sure I entirely agree with you. I'd say Romano will still be good as a reserve in SR or starting against the likes of the Rebels, Force ...

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                                      @chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:

                                      @george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair at SR level. Should retire , been a great servant.
                                      Kata has signed with Moana Pacifica

                                      Made that a bit clearer. He's been great at NPC level. I'm also not sure I entirely agree with you. I'd say Romano will still be good as a reserve in SR or starting against the likes of the Rebels, Force ...

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                                      @stargazer haha fair. Done at super rugby with the crusaders. Whitelock, Barrett , strange , dunshea and Zach Gallagher. Not much room left.

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                                        @stargazer haha fair. Done at super rugby with the crusaders. Whitelock, Barrett , strange , dunshea and Zach Gallagher. Not much room left.

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                                        @chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:

                                        @stargazer haha fair. Done at super rugby with the crusaders. Whitelock, Barrett , strange , dunshea and Zach Gallagher. Not much room left.

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                                          @chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:

                                          @stargazer haha fair. Done at super rugby with the crusaders. Whitelock, Barrett , strange , dunshea and Zach Gallagher. Not much room left.

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                                          @george33 not sure kata has signed for MP I’m hearing different from my club would rate Luke ahead of strange and others

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