Article: The Original Rugby Championship - Six Nations 2016
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<p>What did he say?<br><br>
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<p>I was just talking in general terms to add to the 'worrying'. :)</p> -
Brown is a long way off his best at the moment in truth. Moreover, while I didn't think he was targeting the player, it was definitely risky and rather stupid. He might benefit from a bit of a break.<br><br>
I wouldn't mind so much if the next cab off the rank was anyone other than Alex f'ing Goode.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SimonAdd" data-cid="561463" data-time="1456610083"><p>Brown is a long way off his best at the moment in truth. Moreover, while I didn't think he was targeting the player, it was definitely risky and rather stupid. He might benefit from a bit of a break.<br>
I wouldn't mind so much if the next cab off the rank was anyone other than Alex f'ing Goode.<br>
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I don't rate Alex Goode as much more than a average Premierhsip player. England should play Nowell at fullback and Yarde or Daly on the wing if Brown is unavailable. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="561501" data-time="1456641269"><p>What's wrong with Goode?</p></blockquote>
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It's not that Goode is bad. It's just that England needs someone better than Goode. I don't rate him as an international quality three quarter, he's just too slow - I still shudder when I think of his culpability in two of the tries conceded against France in 2014. -
Did anyone else notice that for three of the first four penalties conceded (rapidly) by England, the offender was Farrell?
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="561501" data-time="1456641269"><p>What's wrong with Goode?</p></blockquote>
Crap under the high ball, slow, weak in defence, unable to beat players or break tackles in attack.<br><br>
He has some nice skills, but he just doesn't have the physical attributes to play 15 effectively at Test level.<br><br>
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<p>Brown was certainly reckless and clumsy and I was worried at the time that he'd get a yellow. He could still be cited but I think red would be harsh, but let's not forget we're talking the IRB judiciary here so anything can happen.</p>
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<p>In the end a reasonably solid win for England against an Irish side that has suffered from retirements and injuries, so and not wishing to denigrate this Irish side, nothing to get above ourselves about. Scrum has improved but still some way to go, line out looking better but our discipline is shocking. We will never win consistently if we keep gifting points, pressure and territory like that.</p> -
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<p>Brown was certainly reckless and clumsy and I was worried at the time that he's get a yellow. He could still be cited but I think red would be harsh, but let's not forget we're talking the IRB judiciary here so anything can happen.</p>
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<p>In the end a reasonably solid win for England against an Irish side that has suffered from retirements and injuries, so and not wishing to denigrate this Irish side, nothing to get above ourselves about. Scrum has improved but still some way to go, line out looking better but our discipline is shocking. We will never win consistently if we keep gifting points, pressure and territory like that.</p>
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<p>Good summary, Cato.</p>
<p>The TOs in possession were staggering. Patience is rewarded. Just hold onto the ball and build phases, ffs.</p> -
<p>Us neutrals were denied an exciting finish when Ireland weren't allowed a try after Veldsman et al (IRB) told us that obscured camera vision = no try when anyone who's played or watched the game knows that ball touched some grass. For that sub back on debut to <em>totally </em> deny the ball on the grass, just didn't happen</p>
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<p>I understand the jeopardy with TMO rulings but would have loved the ref to say, nah, I saw enough, that was a try. At least the old "is there clear footage why I shouldn't award the try" leads to more interpretation of just plain old rugby </p>
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<p>Solid performance from England. The main improvement so far under Eddie Jones has been their scrum.</p>
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<p>Is Marler wearing a Cloak of Invisibility?</p>
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<p>Should be pinged at every scrum for incorrect bind / not binding and/or pulling down.</p> -
<p>Poite et al bottled the big call. Haskell yellow for killing the ball. Two yellows = red.</p>
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<p>Dirty fluffybunny Brown straight red for trying to be Michael Flatley.</p>
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<p>Once is clumsy. Twice is reckless. Thrice is dirty.</p>
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<p>Hopefully that dirty shit will be cited.</p>
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<p>Danny Care must be gutted.</p>
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<p>And 13 men on the park for the last 10 mins and the match becomes a whole lot more interesting.</p>
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<p>Moving on to 12 March,</p>
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<p>Stop Billy, stop England.</p>
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<p>Is Marler wearing a Cloak of Invisibility?</p>
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<p>Should be pinged at every scrum for incorrect bind / not binding and/or pulling down.</p>
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<p>I didn't say it was perfect Mike, just an improvement :think:</p> -
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<p>Poite et al bottled the big call. Haskell yellow for killing the ball. Two yellows = red.</p>
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<p>Dirty fluffybunny Brown straight red for trying to be Michael Flatley.</p>
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<p>Once is clumsy. Twice is reckless. Thrice is dirty. - <strong>I agree, but then the first one was more of a ruck so doesn't count</strong> :fishing:</p>
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<p>Hopefully that dirty shit will be cited. - <strong>I really don't see him as a dirty player, but you're most likely right that he will get cited.</strong></p>
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<p>Danny Care must be gutted.</p>
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<p>And 13 men on the park for the last 10 mins and the match becomes a whole lot more interesting.</p>
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<p>Moving on to 12 March,</p>
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<p>Stop Billy, stop England. - <strong>Yep. And itoje. And Mako. And joseph. However from yesterday's game you could be excused for thinking Billy = England, it was a bloody impressive performance, his stats were damned good. It's made me revise my thinking of him not being an 80 minute player. A looser game might find him out on that front, but his fitness has improved greatly. still someway to go yet which is encouraging (for en England dam anyway).</strong></p>
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<p>Simple really.</p>
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<p>Mako and Itoje both had very good games.</p>
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<p>Joseph was ok and certainly not the threat he has been and can be.</p> -
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Haskell was fine. On his feet, there before the Irish support, perfectly entitled to go for the ball. Did a good job letting go once cleared out too.<br><br>
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<p>Mako and Itoje both had very good games.</p>
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<p>Joseph was ok and certainly not the threat he has been and can be.</p>
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<p>So Mike. Two weeks time. Are you feeling confident? I've been impressed with Wales' defence so far this 6N but they haven't seemed that crash hot on attack. Scrum is looking pretty good though. Samson Lee seems to have come on a fair bit.</p>
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<p>I'm hoping our scrum holds out and that so does our discipline. If we can sort out those two issues I'd back us to take it at HQ although 7 is still worry for me whether Gatland plays Warburton or Warburton and Tipuric. It's going to be an interesting call for Steady Eddy if Launchbury is fit - to pick two out of him, Itoje and Kruis will be hard. Who would have thought a few months ago that a fit Lawes would be third choice?</p> -
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<p>Is Marler wearing a Cloak of Invisibility?</p>
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<p>Should be pinged at every scrum for incorrect bind / not binding and/or pulling down.</p>
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Congrats England. <br><br>
That's all I'm going to say about that match. <br><br>
Italy and Scotland are looking to be interesting match-ups. <br><br>
We might manage to beat one of them. <br><br>
On the plus side - happy for VDF, Dillane and McCloskey who all had good bows. <br><br>
Hopefully Payne has to sit out the remainder of the 6N.
