Super Rugby 2022
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@Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.
im not sure ....i have flash backs to nonu, we need a full culture change and squad evaluation first and foremost, one big name wont cut it i dont think
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.
im not sure ....i have flash backs to nonu, we need a full culture change and squad evaluation first and foremost, one big name wont cut it i dont think
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.
im not sure ....i have flash backs to nonu, we need a full culture change and squad evaluation first and foremost, one big name wont cut it i dont think
Have you thought about importing a bunch of established All Blacks from other franchises? That level of performance culture should fix whatever's wrong down South.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Bovidae Yeah, I can't see it happening, but I think it would be great for the Highlanders if it happened.
im not sure ....i have flash backs to nonu, we need a full culture change and squad evaluation first and foremost, one big name wont cut it i dont think
Have you thought about importing a bunch of established All Blacks from other franchises? That level of performance culture should fix whatever's wrong down South.
@antipodean its bound to work the second time aye?
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@Nepia said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Duluth I think it would be his brother ending up on the bench.
Perofeta to 10, Jordie to fullback. BB wearing 22. Zarn Sullivan to the Canes and Magpies. Perfect solution.Sullivan to the Magpies and any other franchise is my preference.
The Crusaders will need a replacement for RM soon
@Crazy-Horse said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Nepia said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Duluth I think it would be his brother ending up on the bench.
Perofeta to 10, Jordie to fullback. BB wearing 22. Zarn Sullivan to the Canes and Magpies. Perfect solution.Sullivan to the Magpies and any other franchise is my preference.
The Crusaders will need a replacement for RM soon
If he returns to Hawkes Bay I’d rather he go to the Crusaders than the Canes.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Nepia said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Duluth I think it would be his brother ending up on the bench.
Perofeta to 10, Jordie to fullback. BB wearing 22. Zarn Sullivan to the Canes and Magpies. Perfect solution.Sullivan to the Magpies and any other franchise is my preference.
The Crusaders will need a replacement for RM soon
If he returns to Hawkes Bay I’d rather he go to the Crusaders than the Canes.
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
The Canes are a cancer for Bay players. I’d rather they play under Razor than get missused by the Canes.
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@Crazy-Horse Harry Godfrey is another one who would be wasted at the Canes under current management. A bit greener than Zarn, but a special prospect I think.
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Crazy-Horse Harry Godfrey is another one who would be wasted at the Canes under current management. A bit greener than Zarn, but a special prospect I think.
Probably as Mr. Larsen, who has miraculously managed to get him allocated to his Petone Cub, will still be involved so at best will be sure to be gathering a collection of jerseys numbered between 21 and 23.
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@Nepia said in SF Blues v Brumbies:
@Donsteppa said in SF Blues v Brumbies:
Brumbies were always going to fuck this game up with a poor man's Bryn Gatland at first five.
As a Chiefs fan I object to that. I think Gatland is a poor mans Lolesio..
Teams pretty much ended up in order of first-fives as is usually the case in Super. Comes down to the battle of RM v BB
Reds fell apart without JOC. Tahs young fella has a fair bit to learn. Same with Canes best option. Gatland/Ioane/Lolosio all about the same
If I had to rank the best 10s from each team I'd end up with a list that closely resembled the team RR table (ignoring those teams where the overall weakness made it too hard for a 10 to influence wins e.g. MP)
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
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@Nepia said in SF Blues v Brumbies:
@Donsteppa said in SF Blues v Brumbies:
Brumbies were always going to fuck this game up with a poor man's Bryn Gatland at first five.
As a Chiefs fan I object to that. I think Gatland is a poor mans Lolesio..
Teams pretty much ended up in order of first-fives as is usually the case in Super. Comes down to the battle of RM v BB
Reds fell apart without JOC. Tahs young fella has a fair bit to learn. Same with Canes best option. Gatland/Ioane/Lolosio all about the same
If I had to rank the best 10s from each team I'd end up with a list that closely resembled the team RR table (ignoring those teams where the overall weakness made it too hard for a 10 to influence wins e.g. MP)
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.
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@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.
@nzzp said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.
I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click. His talent was obvious from early on (Perofuture) but the 'future' part took some time and had little upward trajectory for a while. Since BB has been there his game jumped up a level or two.
Chiefs or Canes with the new improved Perofeta would be a much harder proposition.
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@nzzp said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.
I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click. His talent was obvious from early on (Perofuture) but the 'future' part took some time and had little upward trajectory for a while. Since BB has been there his game jumped up a level or two.
Chiefs or Canes with the new improved Perofeta would be a much harder proposition.
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
@nzzp said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.
I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click.
That, and time. Asking 10s to come in and turn teams around is incredibly hard. I've just posted in the Blues 2022 thread, but the new board in Feb 2019 was massive for us.
Remember, people (including me) thought Perofeta was a wash, and the critique of Beaudy being on sabbatical was massive. Our record has been steadily improving:
2018 4-12
2019 5-1-10
2020 5-2
2021 4-4 and 5-0
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@nzzp said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
Absolutely you need a good team AND a good 10, but that 10 is the difference.
Spot on I think. The Blues 10s have had talent, but with a garbage administration around them, they've struggled.
I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click. His talent was obvious from early on (Perofuture) but the 'future' part took some time and had little upward trajectory for a while. Since BB has been there his game jumped up a level or two.
Chiefs or Canes with the new improved Perofeta would be a much harder proposition.
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
I wonder if it took having BB at training for Perofeta to finally click. His talent was obvious from early on (Perofuture) but the 'future' part took some time and had little upward trajectory for a while. Since BB has been there his game jumped up a level or two.
Perofeta talked about the dynamic with BB a few days ago
“I’ve always idolised him,” he said of the 101-test All Black who missed last year's Super Rugby competition for his Japan sabbatical. “He’s a great player. I had a mindset shift of how can I better myself through his experience? The biggest barrier I had to break down was just to ask for help … so I’m clear and he’s clear on what we need from each other. “Once I broke that we started to build that relationship that is really having positive spinoffs on the field.” -
oh, good, and we're back here
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
oh, good, and we're back here
I only clicked on it to check that it was 2022 and not any of the cookie-cutter articles from previous years.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
oh, good, and we're back here
I only clicked on it to check that it was 2022 and not any of the cookie-cutter articles from previous years.
@NTA said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
oh, good, and we're back here
I only clicked on it to check that it was 2022 and not any of the cookie-cutter articles from previous years.
If the Brumbies had a home final there would be none of this talk. You want more interest and more money? Be better.
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It's not surprising and to be honest I can see why Rugby Australia are thinking what they are.
Last year they got 40k for their domestic final and a large tv audience to watch Reds vs Brumbies decider.
This year they got one home quarter final.
Throw in the broadcasting $ issue + that RA under their current management like to negotiate through the media and here we are.
You could see this coming when RA only signed up to the trans-tasman Super comp for 2 years.
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This is the same Fox, who wouldn't pay RA enough to broadcast rugby in Australia. Nine/Stan probably paid unders for the deal.
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:
This is the same Fox, who wouldn't pay RA enough to broadcast rugby in Australia. Nine/Stan probably paid unders for the deal.
I think they paid what it was worth at the time in a buyer's market.
And yes, Fox can go and get fucked.
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It's not surprising and to be honest I can see why Rugby Australia are thinking what they are.
Last year they got 40k for their domestic final and a large tv audience to watch Reds vs Brumbies decider.
This year they got one home quarter final.
Throw in the broadcasting $ issue + that RA under their current management like to negotiate through the media and here we are.
You could see this coming when RA only signed up to the trans-tasman Super comp for 2 years.
@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
It's not surprising and to be honest I can see why Rugby Australia are thinking what they are.
Last year they got 40k for their domestic final and a large tv audience to watch Reds vs Brumbies decider.
This year they got one home quarter final.
Throw in the broadcasting $ issue + that RA under their current management like to negotiate through the media and here we are.
You could see this coming when RA only signed up to the trans-tasman Super comp for 2 years.
and they need to do something to raise the profile before hosting the RWC
Its also mad to think there is nothing between the guys i manage in melbourne and a super contract
