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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/300483615/nz-breakers-wellington-phoenix-face-full-season-in-australia-doubts-for-super-rugby-pacific

    New Zealand Rugby were making no comment on latest border developments, saying Tuesday’s announcement had not changed the situation regarding Super Rugby Pacific.

    Head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum has already indicated that the competition was now likely to be front-loaded with “local” games in New Zealand and Australia, with cross-border clashes to follow as borders reopen. They have said they hope to have the new draw out before Christmas, and are still working to that timeline.

    Given the volatility of the situation, and the New Zealand Government’s hesitancy in opening borders, even that might be an optimistic proposition.

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    • TimT Tim

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/300483615/nz-breakers-wellington-phoenix-face-full-season-in-australia-doubts-for-super-rugby-pacific

      New Zealand Rugby were making no comment on latest border developments, saying Tuesday’s announcement had not changed the situation regarding Super Rugby Pacific.

      Head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum has already indicated that the competition was now likely to be front-loaded with “local” games in New Zealand and Australia, with cross-border clashes to follow as borders reopen. They have said they hope to have the new draw out before Christmas, and are still working to that timeline.

      Given the volatility of the situation, and the New Zealand Government’s hesitancy in opening borders, even that might be an optimistic proposition.

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      delicatessen
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      @tim I wonder if it's worth just moving the whole competition to NZ for the first half of the comp, and Aus for the second half? Or vice versa obviously.

      It'd ensure everyone still gets their home and away games, and they should be able to find compromises between good times for TV and gate takings. The only real losses would be when local derbies are played on the wrong side of the ditch.

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        #314

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-new-zealand-rugby-forced-to-completely-remodel-super-rugby-pacifics-draw-after-border-changes/BCD7NW5GKAFCQMM3HIFSGK3O6I/

        The latest changes to the New Zealand border, announced by the Government yesterday, have forced New Zealand Rugby to completely remodel Super Rugby Pacific's draw. Liam Napier reports.

        Super Rugby Pacific's inaugural season has been overhauled in the wake of ongoing Covid challenges and border changes, with local derbies in New Zealand and Australia set to feature through to April.

        New Zealand Rugby had little choice but to completely remodel Super Rugby Pacific's draw by frontloading local derbies, with the five Australian teams and new entrants the Fijian Drua unable to enter the country without undergoing MIQ.

        The only other alternative was to base all 12 teams in Australia but as cases of the Covid-19 Omicron variant soar in Sydney (over 3000 on Wednesday) in particular, that was an increasingly risky prospect for New Zealand players who would have little assurance about when they could return home.

        The Herald understands the rejigged draw – set to be revealed in full on Thursday – will see Moana Pasifika host the Blues in the opening match at Mt Smart Stadium on Friday, February 18.

        Moana Pasifika, in their debut season, were originally scheduled to play the Brumbies at Mt Smart, while the Blues were to host the Drua in their opening game at Eden Park.

        A series of derbies against New Zealand teams promises to provide an immediately brutal examination for Moana Pasifika, who will have five weeks to prepare their inaugural squad.

        The start of Super Rugby Pacific will effectively mirror this year's Aotearoa and Australian domestic competitions, with Moana Pasifika joining the five established New Zealand teams and the Drua linking with the Australian sides.

        Local derbies will feature through to the weekend of April 22, at which point organisers remain hopeful the Covid landscape improves enough to allow transtasman travel.

        New Zealand's border is slated to open to vaccinated non-Kiwis at the end of April, but as Omicron cases rise in Australia the goalposts on travel constantly shift.

        The latest change arrived on Tuesday when the Government announced plans to allow fully vaccinated Kiwis and residents to enter the country from Australia, without requiring managed isolation, had been pushed back from mid-January until at least the end of February.

        Despite the increasingly uncertain landscape, April 22-24 is scheduled to kickstart the transtasman component of the Super Rugby Pacific draw with the 'super round' where the 12 teams will play all matches in Melbourne over one weekend. That was originally supposed to be played in round two, at the end of February.

        Five rounds of transtasman matches are scheduled to follow the weekend in Melbourne, culminating in quarter-finals, semifinals and the finale on June 18.

        At this point, though, there are no guarantees Super Rugby Pacific's maiden season will contain any transtasman element - such is the havoc Covid continues to wreak on all sporting codes.

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        • TimT Tim

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-new-zealand-rugby-forced-to-completely-remodel-super-rugby-pacifics-draw-after-border-changes/BCD7NW5GKAFCQMM3HIFSGK3O6I/

          The latest changes to the New Zealand border, announced by the Government yesterday, have forced New Zealand Rugby to completely remodel Super Rugby Pacific's draw. Liam Napier reports.

          Super Rugby Pacific's inaugural season has been overhauled in the wake of ongoing Covid challenges and border changes, with local derbies in New Zealand and Australia set to feature through to April.

          New Zealand Rugby had little choice but to completely remodel Super Rugby Pacific's draw by frontloading local derbies, with the five Australian teams and new entrants the Fijian Drua unable to enter the country without undergoing MIQ.

          The only other alternative was to base all 12 teams in Australia but as cases of the Covid-19 Omicron variant soar in Sydney (over 3000 on Wednesday) in particular, that was an increasingly risky prospect for New Zealand players who would have little assurance about when they could return home.

          The Herald understands the rejigged draw – set to be revealed in full on Thursday – will see Moana Pasifika host the Blues in the opening match at Mt Smart Stadium on Friday, February 18.

          Moana Pasifika, in their debut season, were originally scheduled to play the Brumbies at Mt Smart, while the Blues were to host the Drua in their opening game at Eden Park.

          A series of derbies against New Zealand teams promises to provide an immediately brutal examination for Moana Pasifika, who will have five weeks to prepare their inaugural squad.

          The start of Super Rugby Pacific will effectively mirror this year's Aotearoa and Australian domestic competitions, with Moana Pasifika joining the five established New Zealand teams and the Drua linking with the Australian sides.

          Local derbies will feature through to the weekend of April 22, at which point organisers remain hopeful the Covid landscape improves enough to allow transtasman travel.

          New Zealand's border is slated to open to vaccinated non-Kiwis at the end of April, but as Omicron cases rise in Australia the goalposts on travel constantly shift.

          The latest change arrived on Tuesday when the Government announced plans to allow fully vaccinated Kiwis and residents to enter the country from Australia, without requiring managed isolation, had been pushed back from mid-January until at least the end of February.

          Despite the increasingly uncertain landscape, April 22-24 is scheduled to kickstart the transtasman component of the Super Rugby Pacific draw with the 'super round' where the 12 teams will play all matches in Melbourne over one weekend. That was originally supposed to be played in round two, at the end of February.

          Five rounds of transtasman matches are scheduled to follow the weekend in Melbourne, culminating in quarter-finals, semifinals and the finale on June 18.

          At this point, though, there are no guarantees Super Rugby Pacific's maiden season will contain any transtasman element - such is the havoc Covid continues to wreak on all sporting codes.

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          @tim thanks for that.

          Damn, covid responses are smashing professional sport

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            call the whole thing off, what's the point?

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              call the whole thing off, what's the point?

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              @mariner4life Easy on the black pills, doomer.

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                The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  call the whole thing off, what's the point?

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                  @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:

                  call the whole thing off, what's the point?

                  Huh?

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

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                    @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                    The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                    Wouldn't it be better if we got a local region to host one of the Australian teams? They could do MIQ once, then have the whole competition in NZ.

                    Drua: Northland
                    Force: BOP
                    Melbourne: Hawkes Bay
                    Queensland: Ta$man
                    NSW: Taranaki
                    Brumbies: Southland

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                      The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                      Wouldn't it be better if we got a local region to host one of the Australian teams? They could do MIQ once, then have the whole competition in NZ.

                      Drua: Northland
                      Force: BOP
                      Melbourne: Hawkes Bay
                      Queensland: Ta$man
                      NSW: Taranaki
                      Brumbies: Southland

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                      @gt12 Yes, that would be a great idea but RA and Marinos would never agree to it.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

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                        @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                        Two weeks self quarantine from most states into Western ozzie, I think

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

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                          @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                          The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                          You mean NSW and Victoria. The only two States open for business. Qld is going to shit its pants shortly.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                            The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                            You mean NSW and Victoria. The only two States open for business. Qld is going to shit its pants shortly.

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                            @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:

                            @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                            The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                            You mean NSW and Victoria. The only two States open for business.

                            Except for sport.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/127358001/wellington-phoenix-game-off-after-opposition-players-test-positive-for-covid19

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:

                              @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                              The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                              You mean NSW and Victoria. The only two States open for business.

                              Except for sport.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/127358001/wellington-phoenix-game-off-after-opposition-players-test-positive-for-covid19

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                              @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                              @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:

                              @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                              The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                              You mean NSW and Victoria. The only two States open for business.

                              Except for sport.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/127358001/wellington-phoenix-game-off-after-opposition-players-test-positive-for-covid19

                              And you think that would be different in Qld?

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                The Aust teams might have more issues playing each other unless they all relocate to Qld.

                                You mean NSW and Victoria. The only two States open for business.

                                Except for sport.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/127358001/wellington-phoenix-game-off-after-opposition-players-test-positive-for-covid19

                                And you think that would be different in Qld?

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                                @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                And you think that would be different in Qld?

                                Based on Qld successfully holding sports fixtures this year, and the relative number of covid cases in each state, I would say yes.

                                Back to the SR competition, the Chiefs can only be playing the Hurricanes in the 1st round. The Crusaders are already playing the Highlanders, and the Blues will play MP instead of the Drua.

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                                  Ignore what I said, as they changed the SRA draw completely.

                                  The competition will kick off with Moana Pasifika hosting the Blues at Mt Smart Stadium and the NSW Waratahs hosting the Fijian Drua on Australian soil. While a Super Saturday start in New Zealand sees the Gallagher Chiefs hosting the Highlanders at 4.35pm in Hamilton and the Crusaders welcoming the Hurricanes to Christchurch at 7.05pm.

                                  https://www.superrugby.co.nz/fixtures-and-standings/

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                                    Whangarei get the Highlanders - that's cool.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Ignore what I said, as they changed the SRA draw completely.

                                        The competition will kick off with Moana Pasifika hosting the Blues at Mt Smart Stadium and the NSW Waratahs hosting the Fijian Drua on Australian soil. While a Super Saturday start in New Zealand sees the Gallagher Chiefs hosting the Highlanders at 4.35pm in Hamilton and the Crusaders welcoming the Hurricanes to Christchurch at 7.05pm.

                                        https://www.superrugby.co.nz/fixtures-and-standings/

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                                        @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                        Ignore what I said, as they changed the SRA draw completely.

                                        The competition will kick off with Moana Pasifika hosting the Blues at Mt Smart Stadium and the NSW Waratahs hosting the Fijian Drua on Australian soil. While a Super Saturday start in New Zealand sees the Gallagher Chiefs hosting the Highlanders at 4.35pm in Hamilton and the Crusaders welcoming the Hurricanes to Christchurch at 7.05pm.

                                        https://www.superrugby.co.nz/fixtures-and-standings/

                                        I hate this stupid compromise they'd made to reduce derby games. If they added just 2 more matches all NZ teams play each other twice (home & away).

                                        Instead we have a truncated half-baked version to appease NZR, because apparently the NZ derbies are too physical, and Fozzie doesn't like a massive All Black's casualty ward.

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                                          Using Crusaders for example, draw should look like this:

                                          Rd 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes.

                                          Rd 2: Highlanders v Crusaders.

                                          Rd 3: Moana Pasifika v Crusaders.

                                          Rd 4: Crusaders v Chiefs.

                                          Rd 5: Blues vs Crusaders.

                                          Rd 6: Chiefs v Crusaders.

                                          Rd 7: Crusaders v Highlanders.

                                          Rd 8: Hurricanes v Crusaders.

                                          Rd 9: Crusaders v Blues.

                                          Rd 10: Crusaders vs Moana Pasifika.

                                          Week off (all teams).

                                          NZ vs Aussie teams.

                                          (16 games overall, instead of 14)

                                          Finals round.

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