Super Rugby 2022
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@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
TAB have published their 2022 competition odds for the first time:
Crusaders are overs! Take the money and run!
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@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
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@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
Crusaders will still win cos they have a great coach. CF foster and bladder
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@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
I made an unsuccessful bid last super season for broken record. The NZ refs heavily favour the saders. Often it's just the little things, 50/50s going their way, "missed" calls, they get away with a lot more consecutive penalties minus a card it feels like as well. Be interested to see what side was most penalised.
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@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
Crusaders will still win cos they have a great coach. CF foster and bladder
@machpants i think you're probably right, its also why its so grating when fozzie's "big idea" as AB coach is just to get as many of his best players on the field no matter the position, Razor shows the old adage about a Champion team beating a team of champions still holds up
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@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
I made an unsuccessful bid last super season for broken record. The NZ refs heavily favour the saders. Often it's just the little things, 50/50s going their way, "missed" calls, they get away with a lot more consecutive penalties minus a card it feels like as well. Be interested to see what side was most penalised.
@bones said in Super Rugby 2022:
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
I made an unsuccessful bid last super season for broken record. The NZ refs heavily favour the saders. Often it's just the little things, 50/50s going their way, "missed" calls, they get away with a lot more consecutive penalties minus a card it feels like as well. Be interested to see what side was most penalised.
Doesn't help when NZ referees make this type of appalling blunder.
I hope that pre-season for these clowns addresses this sort of incompetence.
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The Blues have Brendon Pickerill running with them. There is one catch - he won't referee any Blues games this year.
Around the rest of the country, Mike Fraser will be based with the Chiefs, Ben O'Keeffe with the Hurricanes, Paul Williams links up with the Crusaders and James Doleman will join the Highlanders. In every case, no referee will officiate their respective teams. -
yeah, dont mind that
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@bones said in Super Rugby 2022:
@kiwi_expat said in Super Rugby 2022:
@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
I made an unsuccessful bid last super season for broken record. The NZ refs heavily favour the saders. Often it's just the little things, 50/50s going their way, "missed" calls, they get away with a lot more consecutive penalties minus a card it feels like as well. Be interested to see what side was most penalised.
Doesn't help when NZ referees make this type of appalling blunder.
I hope that pre-season for these clowns addresses this sort of incompetence.
@antipodean Wait how the fuck was that a forward pass
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@tim said in Super Rugby 2022:
@hooroo If your team stays healthy, I think you can roll them this year. Even without DMac.
Just having a look through the squads and I think the Crusader's stocks are naturally being over-estimated on here again, for the past few seasons their squad hasn't looked amazing, but they've performed far greater than the sum of their parts under Scott Robertson's innovative coaching, and honestly, when you assess the positional strengths of each franchise the Crusaders depth/quality only really stands out at lock and back three.
The Chiefs and Blues have the greatest talent and depth from positions 1-3, Blues, Chiefs (and Highlanders to lesser extent) each have envious depth in talented loosies which Crusaders are lacking, Highlanders/Blues/Chiefs packs all comfortably match theirs, the Chiefs have 5 standout locking options in their current squad, Highlanders tall timber, loosies and front-row all vastly underrated.
Blues, Hurricanes, Chiefs, and Highlanders all have superior and more talented midfield options than Crusaders. Outside backs are perhaps the only department that could provide a genuine point of difference for Red & Blacks, but even then the back three is a great strength position across all the franchises right now, particularly amongst the Blues, Highlanders and Hurricanes. So nothing to scoff at either.
@kiwi_expat lol you have to be a troll account, surely.
