Super Rugby 2022
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Just to add. The Queenstown thing is mooted to be the first month only to start with. There is also talk that the Queenstown base/bubble is primarily for living and training. Games could be back at home stadiums with teams staying in bubbles for travel.
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@nzzp said in Super Rugby 2022:
@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
@duluth said in Super Rugby 2022:
Or they think this will be forced to happen eventually and a leak helps soften the news
I don't really see any alternatives. It's already February I can't see any bubbles or exemptions happening by April - NZ teams will have to move to Aus.
It's not terrible though.
Queenstown for super rugby NZ, then a hop over the ditch for 6 weeks in Australia. Then home, either MIQ or home isolation depending on borders.
I don't think it very good at all, it's one thing to be in Queenstown etc, but another to be in Aus. When something goes wrong at home you can get home. I personally think mentally it plays on the minds of players.
Also I sick of watching our teams have to play in Aus, we start getting disconnected.
Western Force CEO is saying he not sure rugby in WA will survive another year of bugger all home games.@dan54 said in Super Rugby 2022:
I don't think it very good at all, it's one thing to be in Queenstown etc, but another to be in Aus.
Oh I agree! It sucks. But, it's better than no rugby, or multiple MIQ visits. It's the least bad option available with the current settings I think.
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At least Aus will have some fans.
The games in NZ without fans is not going to be great. Better than no games of course.
@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
Better than no games of course.
barely.
yay, the piped crowd noise is back...
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The Western Force have temporarily relocated to the East Coast.
@antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:
The Western Force have temporarily relocated to the East Coast.
Western Force Ngati Porou!
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At least Aus will have some fans.
The games in NZ without fans is not going to be great. Better than no games of course.
@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
At least Aus will have some fans.
The games in NZ without fans is not going to be great. Better than no games of course.
Don't know if you watched but apart from Suncorp and WA, Aussie stadiums were fairly bare last year. Even done with what was done in Taranaki in NPC lsat year wasn't too bad.
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@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
At least Aus will have some fans.
The games in NZ without fans is not going to be great. Better than no games of course.
Don't know if you watched but apart from Suncorp and WA, Aussie stadiums were fairly bare last year. Even done with what was done in Taranaki in NPC lsat year wasn't too bad.
@dan54 said in Super Rugby 2022:
Aussie stadiums were fairly bare last year
they will be this year too. Aussies don't have fucks to give about rugby/losers
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@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
At least Aus will have some fans.
The games in NZ without fans is not going to be great. Better than no games of course.
Don't know if you watched but apart from Suncorp and WA, Aussie stadiums were fairly bare last year. Even done with what was done in Taranaki in NPC lsat year wasn't too bad.
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There is growing speculation the entire Super Rugby Pacific competition will need to move to Australia as government border restrictions continue to wreak havoc with the draw.Rugby Australia executive Ben Whitaker, who sits on the competitions committee, said a wholesale relocation of New Zealand teams here was a “contingency plan” only. “That’s not a consideration at the moment. It’s a contingency plan ... but we’ll seek to avoid that for as long as we can,” Whitaker said. “The worst-case scenario, if we need to revert to it in the event the border situation with New Zealand makes it necessary, then we have it as an option.”So the Queenstown move is still likely and there is no imminent plans to move to Aussie.
I suspect this has been floated in the media to put pressure on the NZ gov to provide assurances. Or they think this will be forced to happen eventually and a leak helps soften the news
@duluth said in Super Rugby 2022:
There is growing speculation the entire Super Rugby Pacific competition will need to move to Australia as government border restrictions continue to wreak havoc with the draw.Rugby Australia executive Ben Whitaker, who sits on the competitions committee, said a wholesale relocation of New Zealand teams here was a “contingency plan” only. “That’s not a consideration at the moment. It’s a contingency plan ... but we’ll seek to avoid that for as long as we can,” Whitaker said. “The worst-case scenario, if we need to revert to it in the event the border situation with New Zealand makes it necessary, then we have it as an option.”So the Queenstown move is still likely
Sounds like its a goer. The Blues have cancelled their 4 day camp which was supposed to be from tomorrow til Saturday. They might be on the move as early as Sunday to Qtown.
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@duluth said in Super Rugby 2022:
There is growing speculation the entire Super Rugby Pacific competition will need to move to Australia as government border restrictions continue to wreak havoc with the draw.Rugby Australia executive Ben Whitaker, who sits on the competitions committee, said a wholesale relocation of New Zealand teams here was a “contingency plan” only. “That’s not a consideration at the moment. It’s a contingency plan ... but we’ll seek to avoid that for as long as we can,” Whitaker said. “The worst-case scenario, if we need to revert to it in the event the border situation with New Zealand makes it necessary, then we have it as an option.”So the Queenstown move is still likely
Sounds like its a goer. The Blues have cancelled their 4 day camp which was supposed to be from tomorrow til Saturday. They might be on the move as early as Sunday to Qtown.
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@dan54 said in Super Rugby 2022:
Don't know if you watched but apart from Suncorp and WA, Aussie stadiums were fairly bare last year.
and even that is still much better than no fans.
@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
@dan54 said in Super Rugby 2022:
Don't know if you watched but apart from Suncorp and WA, Aussie stadiums were fairly bare last year.
and even that is still much better than no fans.
NZ teams are still hoping for some fans if they can play in their home stadiums. Separate pods of 100 people has been suggested.
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@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
@dan54 said in Super Rugby 2022:
Don't know if you watched but apart from Suncorp and WA, Aussie stadiums were fairly bare last year.
and even that is still much better than no fans.
NZ teams are still hoping for some fans if they can play in their home stadiums. Separate pods of 100 people has been suggested.
i have generally always leaned toward any restrictions are in place for the right reasons etc...but this really is getting crazy
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i have generally always leaned toward any restrictions are in place for the right reasons etc...but this really is getting crazy
@kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:
i have generally always leaned toward any restrictions are in place for the right reasons etc...but this really is getting crazy
remember they are where we were 12 months ago with regards to cases and stuff
except, they are hugely vaccinated, sooooo
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@kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:
i have generally always leaned toward any restrictions are in place for the right reasons etc...but this really is getting crazy
remember they are where we were 12 months ago with regards to cases and stuff
except, they are hugely vaccinated, sooooo
@mariner4life agreed, dont want to move it too COVID other than to say even i think its really weird to have similar proposed restrictions (crowd size, hubs) etc given a very different world, high vaccination and a anecdotally much more mild strain
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In addition, border opening plans will be announced this Thursday
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@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby 2022:
@nogusta do you know if the preseason game(s) this weekend are going ahead?
Blues looking like they will now play the Canes in Wellington en route to Queenstown
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Games to be split between Queenstown (day) and Invercargill (night).
Last minute move? More details emerge on plans to save Super Rugby season
Liam Napier
1 Feb, 2022 04:30 PMFurther details of Super Rugby's radical plans to save the 2022 season amid New Zealand's Omicron outbreak have emerged, including a new venue and last minute changes to games. Liam Napier reports.
Invercargill is expected host all New Zealand-based night matches and this weekend's Blues and Hurricanes preseason game may be moved from Auckland at the last minute as further details of plans to save the Super Rugby season emerge.
New Zealand Rugby is attempting to avoid a scenario where entire teams must isolate for at least 10 days as the result of one positive Covid case or close contact which would force games to be cancelled.
In New Zealand's Covid red light settings, all games must be played behind closed doors so moving matches to one location makes no difference to the 100-cap crowd limit.
In a fraught climate, basing the six teams in Queenstown is viewed as the best possible option to get through as many games between the New Zealand teams as possible by mitigating the risk of household community exposure as Omicron cases expand in the coming weeks.
The Herald understands further meetings on the relocation proposal were held on Tuesday and, with the Queenstown hub expected to gain signoff from all parties, teams could travel south as early as this weekend.
Plans are understood to be under way for the 24 New Zealand-based matches to be split between Queenstown and Invercargill.
Queenstown will host day games and teams will bus to Invercargill, the closest venue with broadcast quality lights, for night matches. Airports and public planes are high-risk exposure sites and will therefore be avoided.
Dunedin's roofed Forsyth Barr Stadium would guarantee ideal playing conditions and was considered to host night fixtures but with teams to bus in and out securely on the same day, the almost four-hour journey one way – compared with Queenstown to Invercargill's five-hour round trip – was deemed too much.
Once the decision to move all teams to Queenstown is finalised NZ Rugby plans to act swiftly to justify the expense of housing six teams – up to 300 personnel including coaching and support staff – for at least the next month.
The national body is believed to have secured a favourable accommodation deal as Queenstown hotels continue to struggle with no foreign tourists.
The Blues' scheduled preseason match against the Hurricanes at Takapuna's Onewa Domain on Saturday is expected to be the latest game relocated. The Blues' second preseason match against the Chiefs in Te Puke the following week will also need to be moved.
With all teams set to relocate south, the Blues may travel by charter flight to Wellington or Queenstown for this weekend's preseason match.
The Highlanders preseason fixture against Moana Pasifika, scheduled for February 11 in Queenstown, was cancelled last week but may now be revived with all teams venturing south.
At this stage the Highlanders are scheduled to play the annual Farmlands Cup preseason match against the Crusaders in Oamaru on Friday.
The Crusaders and Hurricanes are also supposed to meet in the preseason – this match was relocated from Blenheim to Christchurch but could now be staged in Queenstown.
Suggestions New Zealand teams will be forced to move from their Queenstown bubble to base themselves in Australia to complete the transtasman component of the inaugural Super Rugby Pacific season, meanwhile, appear premature.
The remodelled draw will see New Zealand and Australian Super sides play local derbies until April 22. All 12 teams are then scheduled to converge on Melbourne for the maiden 'super round'.
While such a prospect seems improbable with the complex border situation, the New Zealand government is set to allow Australian-based Kiwis to skip MIQ and self-isolate from the end of this month which may eventually lead to greater travel flexibility.
Given the mass changes Super Rugby Pacific has endured before the season-opening match on February 18, tournament organisers will certainly hope the landscape improves.
