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    It looks like there has already been some movement of WTG players amongst the squads in Queenstown.

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      It looks like there has already been some movement of WTG players amongst the squads in Queenstown.

      274467467_10159990890457210_7912837374969617467_n.jpg

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      @bovidae who are they?

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        @bovidae who are they?

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        @macmanus Cortez Ratima (in the Chiefs squad) and Liam Coombes-Fabling, who was in the Chiefs WTG. They are Waikato teammates.

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          Ah bollox, what a waste of time the trip to QT was

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300523311/moana-pasifika-v-chiefs-super-rugby-pacific-match-called-off

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            The Chiefs should be organising their return to Hamilton now.

            The good news is that the Chiefs will now play MP at home (hopefully with some crowd). The bad news is when do MP play the Blues and Chiefs? Midweek games might be the only option.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              The Chiefs should be organising their return to Hamilton now.

              The good news is that the Chiefs will now play MP at home (hopefully with some crowd). The bad news is when do MP play the Blues and Chiefs? Midweek games might be the only option.

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              @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

              The Chiefs should be organising their return to Hamilton now.

              The good news is that the Chiefs will now play MP at home (hopefully with some crowd). The bad news is when do MP play the Blues and Chiefs? Midweek games might be the only option.

              It's an ever changing situation so who knows. I think that NZR are taking a good approach to ensure that their product gets on the shelves this year. They are being very flexible and pro-active.
              The Queenstown jaunt may not have been perfect but meant that (most) teams were able to get their warmups done and games started.
              I'd guess that players will be going back home with instructions to keep contacts and socialising outside of the team to a minimum for a while.

              SR Aupiki move to Taupō is a good idea too. Hopefully this ensures that the comp kicks off. In fact with only four teams this could end up being a model for the first few years. Play it as a small tournament and if that means slightly extended squads to cover short turnarounds then that exposes more players to a high level.

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                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300523930/super-rugby-pacific-teams-to-gradually-abandon-queenstown-bubble

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                  daughter who works in one of the hotels in qtown said today that sky sport had cancelled there booking for the weeks ahead

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                    The Chiefs should be organising their return to Hamilton now.

                    The good news is that the Chiefs will now play MP at home (hopefully with some crowd). The bad news is when do MP play the Blues and Chiefs? Midweek games might be the only option.

                    It's an ever changing situation so who knows. I think that NZR are taking a good approach to ensure that their product gets on the shelves this year. They are being very flexible and pro-active.
                    The Queenstown jaunt may not have been perfect but meant that (most) teams were able to get their warmups done and games started.
                    I'd guess that players will be going back home with instructions to keep contacts and socialising outside of the team to a minimum for a while.

                    SR Aupiki move to Taupō is a good idea too. Hopefully this ensures that the comp kicks off. In fact with only four teams this could end up being a model for the first few years. Play it as a small tournament and if that means slightly extended squads to cover short turnarounds then that exposes more players to a high level.

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                    @crucial It is not good news at all for the Chiefs. It will force compromises on them later, like the Blues, disadvantaging their chances.

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                      This is pretty neat. Didn't realise Sullivan is so tall!

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                        Has Julian shrunk? Bailyn is usually listed as 1.88 m (6' 2").

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Has Julian shrunk? Bailyn is usually listed as 1.88 m (6' 2").

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                          @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                          Has Julian shrunk? Bailyn is usually listed as 1.88 m (6' 2").

                          Looks like Savea hair issues. Both brothers are guilty of that.

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                            @crucial It is not good news at all for the Chiefs. It will force compromises on them later, like the Blues, disadvantaging their chances.

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                            @arhs said in Super Rugby 2022:

                            @crucial It is not good news at all for the Chiefs. It will force compromises on them later, like the Blues, disadvantaging their chances.

                            We don’t know what it will mean yet.
                            Everyone is assuming a midweek fixture but that may not end up the case.
                            Besides, a Chiefs training group playing MP would still likely win.

                            Edit: could also do a fixture shuffle and something like a Friday, Wednesday, Sunday

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                              @arhs said in Super Rugby 2022:

                              @crucial It is not good news at all for the Chiefs. It will force compromises on them later, like the Blues, disadvantaging their chances.

                              We don’t know what it will mean yet.
                              Everyone is assuming a midweek fixture but that may not end up the case.
                              Besides, a Chiefs training group playing MP would still likely win.

                              Edit: could also do a fixture shuffle and something like a Friday, Wednesday, Sunday

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                              @crucial Cameron Good of NZR has said that midweek games are the preferred option. It's the games before and after that will be compromised as playing midweek tends to mean less training. The one advantage is that there will be minimal travel involved for the 3 teams.

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                                @crucial Cameron Good of NZR has said that midweek games are the preferred option. It's the games before and after that will be compromised as playing midweek tends to mean less training. The one advantage is that there will be minimal travel involved for the 3 teams.

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                                @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                @crucial Cameron Good of NZR has said that midweek games are the preferred option. It's the games before and after that will be compromised as playing midweek tends to mean less training. The one advantage is that there will be minimal travel involved for the 3 teams.

                                What I meant was that even though that is the preferred option it could end up differently. Circumstances change all the time at the moment and NZR seem to be being flexible.
                                eg lets say A were scheduled to play B but B had a Covid outbreak and C had a bye. Would make sense to change the fixture to A vs C
                                I agree that it is the most likely scenario though.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @crucial Cameron Good of NZR has said that midweek games are the preferred option. It's the games before and after that will be compromised as playing midweek tends to mean less training. The one advantage is that there will be minimal travel involved for the 3 teams.

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                                  @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                  @crucial Cameron Good of NZR has said that midweek games are the preferred option. It's the games before and after that will be compromised as playing midweek tends to mean less training. The one advantage is that there will be minimal travel involved for the 3 teams.

                                  More games within the same period would likely mean more chance of injuries too.

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                                    @foobanz you're not wrong. The Hurricanes as an organisation seem to be floating along without any real consequence. Win, lose or draw no one in the media seems to care anymore which is a sad state. As I've said previously this organisation needs a complete cleanout.

                                    When was the last time we heard from the G.M?

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                                    @canes4life said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:

                                    Win, lose or draw no one in the media seems to care anymore which is a sad state.

                                    is that sort of the state of affairs across the Board for Super rugby?

                                    I know the Blues used to cop a bit of heat, but still nowhere near what they should have? It just seems like, as long as the ABs win, then no one gives a shit? And if the ABs lose, that's the coaches fault.

                                    There doesn't seem to be anywhere near enough heat on the 4 franchises to actually do better in Super Rugby, and also develop players.

                                    Or am i just too removed?

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                                      @canes4life said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:

                                      Win, lose or draw no one in the media seems to care anymore which is a sad state.

                                      is that sort of the state of affairs across the Board for Super rugby?

                                      I know the Blues used to cop a bit of heat, but still nowhere near what they should have? It just seems like, as long as the ABs win, then no one gives a shit? And if the ABs lose, that's the coaches fault.

                                      There doesn't seem to be anywhere near enough heat on the 4 franchises to actually do better in Super Rugby, and also develop players.

                                      Or am i just too removed?

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                                      #717

                                      @mariner4life

                                      Every year, excluding the bump in August 2020, there seems to be less interest in Super Rugby. To be fair, the opening round was very NPC level in quality.

                                      My Dad isn't bothering getting Sky this year, and my best friend in the UK (Blues, Harbour, and ABs fanatic) can't be bothered subscribing either.

                                      Have seen little interest outside this site.

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                                        It's obviously a bigger discussion but there is so much crap / nonsense on Stuff and the Herald now sports are pushed way down. I would think part of the decline is part due to the lack of promotion the media gives sport nowadays.

                                        Just a comment on Love too, Holland chucks him in week 1 against the best team in the comp, then drops him week 2 after we lose? He must feel great.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @canes4life said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:

                                          Win, lose or draw no one in the media seems to care anymore which is a sad state.

                                          is that sort of the state of affairs across the Board for Super rugby?

                                          I know the Blues used to cop a bit of heat, but still nowhere near what they should have? It just seems like, as long as the ABs win, then no one gives a shit? And if the ABs lose, that's the coaches fault.

                                          There doesn't seem to be anywhere near enough heat on the 4 franchises to actually do better in Super Rugby, and also develop players.

                                          Or am i just too removed?

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                                          @mariner4life I think you hit the nail on the head. Back in 2015/2016 for example when the Canes were running hot and we were winning most games, Avan Lee was very vocal in the media, there was always plenty of hype and the fans got in behind the team. The media were also there questioning every move which you want as a fan.

                                          Now, it seems like all of that is a distant memory and I feel like even if we did turn things around not many would actually care. Most of my mates who used to be regular consumers of Super Rugby barely tune in these days which says it all really.

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