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    We’ll that’s annoying and not good for MP as he might have been the kind of player to kick start them

    I wonder if the landers see Sam Gilbert as a back up 10

    Some poor planner seeing as gatland left to get more time at 10 with the chiefs too

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      I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

      I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

      8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

      Like the name.

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        7A8DC2D5-0ECC-4100-A060-0C0C5F3CAF16.jpeg

        We’ll that’s annoying and not good for MP as he might have been the kind of player to kick start them

        I wonder if the landers see Sam Gilbert as a back up 10

        Some poor planner seeing as gatland left to get more time at 10 with the chiefs too

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        @kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:

        7A8DC2D5-0ECC-4100-A060-0C0C5F3CAF16.jpeg

        We’ll that’s annoying and not good for MP as he might have been the kind of player to kick start them

        I wonder if the landers see Sam Gilbert as a back up 10

        Some poor planner seeing as gatland left to get more time at 10 with the chiefs too

        I'm surprised, but also pleased, because once it became clear that Dmac was off, we were left without a Super quality first five (or at least one that suits our fast-paced gameplan), so he is a good addition. I imagine it may also mean that the Chiefs are not that confident of getting Dmac back (although this could be only a one-year deal).

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

          I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

          8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

          Like the name.

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          @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

          I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

          I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

          8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

          Like the name.

          Dammit! I'm trying to see what the name is?? What are they calling it?

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

            I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

            I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

            8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

            Like the name.

            Dammit! I'm trying to see what the name is?? What are they calling it?

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            @hooroo said in Super Rugby 2022:

            @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

            I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

            I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

            8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

            Like the name.

            Dammit! I'm trying to see what the name is?? What are they calling it?

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

              I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

              8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

              Like the name.

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              @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

              I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

              The franchises need a minimum of 6 homes games each year to be financially viable. This format guarantees 7 home games. The problem with the extra 3 games is that if the NZ teams play only NZ teams, it's not that different from SRA, and we heard the criticism of playing so many high intensity games.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                Like the name.

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                @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                Like the name.

                this ^^

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                  I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                  8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                  Like the name.

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                  @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                  I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                  I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                  8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                  Like the name.

                  No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

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                  • M Machpants

                    @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                    I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                    I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                    8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                    Like the name.

                    No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

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                    @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                    @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                    I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                    I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                    8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                    Like the name.

                    No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

                    Isn't travelling to and from the US just like travelling to and from Argentina?

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                      @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                      I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                      I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                      8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                      Like the name.

                      No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

                      Isn't travelling to and from the US just like travelling to and from Argentina?

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                      @canefan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                      @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                      @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                      I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                      I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                      8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                      Like the name.

                      No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

                      Isn't travelling to and from the US just like travelling to and from Argentina?

                      Not really, US is one flight - a big difference.

                      And I want to go to a canes match in Hawaii!

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                      • M Machpants

                        @canefan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                        I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                        8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                        Like the name.

                        No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

                        Isn't travelling to and from the US just like travelling to and from Argentina?

                        Not really, US is one flight - a big difference.

                        And I want to go to a canes match in Hawaii!

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                        @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        @canefan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                        I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                        I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                        8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                        Like the name.

                        No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

                        Isn't travelling to and from the US just like travelling to and from Argentina?

                        Not really, US is one flight - a big difference.

                        And I want to go to a canes match in Hawaii!

                        i thought pre COVID there were direct flights from Auckland to Buenos Aires?

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                          @canefan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                          @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                          @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

                          I like the new SR comp with one exception, remove the 3 random games.

                          I'd also like to see an old style top 5 instead of practically everyone making the finals. Alternative is those three games get replaced by a Japanese team, an Argie team and one form the US. If the US teams isn't strong enough, maybe have two from Japan?

                          8 finalists out of 15 would be better, otherwise 5 of 12 is good.

                          Like the name.

                          No way do we want an Argentinian team, too much travel for one team. Two Japanese and a USA team would be ideal.

                          Isn't travelling to and from the US just like travelling to and from Argentina?

                          Not really, US is one flight - a big difference.

                          And I want to go to a canes match in Hawaii!

                          i thought pre COVID there were direct flights from Auckland to Buenos Aires?

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                          @kiwiwomble I think you're right but that won't be back for a while, if ever, with Air NZ cutting is long haul to the essentials

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                            NZ Herald article stating what I thought 2 of the 3 extra games will be local derbies, MP and FD will play each other twice in the first season.

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                              I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

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                                I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

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                                @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

                                If we had the top 2 teams from Japan, they'd be mid table competitive - certainly vs MP, FD and Oz plus whichever is the shit team of the year for NZ

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                                • M Machpants

                                  NZ Herald article stating what I thought 2 of the 3 extra games will be local derbies, MP and FD will play each other twice in the first season.

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                                  @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                  NZ Herald article stating what I thought 2 of the 3 extra games will be local derbies, MP and FD will play each other twice in the first season.

                                  Also, I believe that MP is considered a local derby for the NZ teams, and FD for the Aust teams.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

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                                    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                    I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

                                    Because this comp is about improving the future. If we wanted a strong comp we would be dropping two Aussie teams and certainly wouldn't have the Fiji and MP teams.

                                    Seeing as that ship has sailed, this is an opporuntity to build stronger links with Japan (good for us) and try and expand into the US market.

                                    Just to be clear, this SRP will have lopsided games already. What adding teams would do is get rid of the flaw that existed with the old conference system, too many derbies that the fans and players didn't like. Just a different type of boring.

                                    Weaker teams allows the squads to try out new players as well, so an interest angle there.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

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                                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                      I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

                                      for me its about variety

                                      and i really enjoy the style the japanese teams play

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                        I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

                                        for me its about variety

                                        and i really enjoy the style the japanese teams play

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                                        @kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                        @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                        I don't quite get why some people are keen to add US or Jap teams to the comp. The rugby is of a very average standard overthere, esp. the USA. It would mean more boring, one-sided matches, esp if they play the NZ teams. It would make sense if there was a two-division SR comp; they could enter in the second division and try to climb their way up. But in a one-tier comp, no thanks.

                                        for me its about variety

                                        and i really enjoy the style the japanese teams play

                                        Alot to be said for playing a team once a year, makes rivalries a thing again. Currently, lose to Team X, there's always next week. Waiting a year would sting.

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @kiwiwomble I think you're right but that won't be back for a while, if ever, with Air NZ cutting is long haul to the essentials

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                                          @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                          @kiwiwomble I think you're right but that won't be back for a while, if ever, with Air NZ cutting is long haul to the essentials

                                          Just checked. Doesn't appear to be direct flights to Buenos Aires right now

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