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The NRL Season of 2016

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
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    #192

    <p>ah, the old "too many pollies" chestnut. Lowe is a fuckwit of the highest order. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Something is seriously wrong in that organisation though, the players change, but the outcomes are all remarkably similar, so what is the underlying, ever present factor?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Why do players go there and get worse? Why do they often look like they aren't trying? Why are their fundamental skills often lacking? Why is their execution (and often, plan) so ordinary? And that's no matter who's name is on the door of the coaches office. </p>

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    • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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      #193

      Sack the coaches, sack the players, sack the sausage sizzle guy..... and you know what, we still have the same Warriors capable of unbelievable footy, but then can easily implode and play stuff U15s would beat down. <br><br>
      It's hard to put your finger exactly what the 'problem' is. But it does have an all too familiar start to the season. The game on Saturday alone is a microcosm of Warrior rugby for the past 5 years.

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      • SneakdefreakS Offline
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        Sneakdefreak
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        #194

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
        <p> </p>
        <p> </p>
        <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's hard to put your finger exactly what the 'problem' is.</span></blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Lack of aggression is the problem. It has been mentioned before. Gordon Tallis, maybe two seasons ago, said the one thing teams hate is when the Warriors run at them hard but the Warriors in recent years seem to just pass the ball along the line.<br><br>
        Watching the Tigers game there was no running hard (bar Gavet and Thompson) or bringing the defence to the Tigers. Brendan McCullum needs to have a chat with this team regarding the idea of throwing the proverbial kitchen sink.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Storm beat Dragons in a bore-fest on MNF.</p>

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        • NepiaN Offline
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          Nepia
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          #195

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="563152" data-time="1457344365">
          <div>
          <p>Lack of aggression is the problem. It has been mentioned before. Gordon Tallis, maybe two seasons ago, said the one thing teams hate is when the Warriors run at them hard but the Warriors in recent years seem to just pass the ball along the line.<br><br>
          Watching the Tigers game there was no running hard (bar Gavet and Thompson) or bringing the defence to the Tigers. Brendan McCullum needs to have a chat with this team regarding the idea of throwing the proverbial kitchen sink.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Storm beat Dragons in a bore-fest on MNF.</p>
          </div>
          </blockquote>
          <p>When Mannering is your hardest running backrower when the team runs out on then you might actually be right.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Gavet was great. Thompson has been a revelation for the Warriors on the edges but he's on my shit list for choosing a boxing match over the Kiwis.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>But, the Warriors have been shedding aggressive hard runners for a while now in a quest (IMHO) to be more structured. </p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>We need more of the bros ;).</p>

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          • GunnerG Offline
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            Gunner
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            #196

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="563162" data-time="1457347312">
            <div>
            <p>But, the Warriors have been shedding aggressive hard runners for a while now in a quest (IMHO) to be more structured. </p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p>So a hard runner can't play to a structure? What fucking rot.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>If that's what they think, they've got rocks in their head.</p>

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            • taniwharugbyT Offline
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              #197

              <p>yeah I was curious as to what exactly a 'bro culture' is.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Do they call each other bro all the time instead of names?</p>

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              • SammyCS Offline
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                #198

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="563193" data-time="1457380334">
                <div>
                <p>yeah I was curious as to what exactly a 'bro culture' is.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Do they call each other bro all the time instead of names?</p>
                </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>I'm pretty sure Lowey meant to say "brown culture" but dropped the last 2 letters so it doesn't sound racist.</p>

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                • SmudgeS Online
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                  Smudge
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                  #199

                  <p>He explained it on Radio Sport this morning as a "don't worry, be happy" type of culture.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>I was tempted to text in and say, no, no, that's a "Bobby" culture.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Sorry. </p>

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                  • SiamS Offline
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                    #200

                    <p>Not sure that Lowe can be accused of being racist.</p>
                    <p>Seems like he had a strong affinity with his players</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>“Aussie coaches were in your face, talking a million miles an hour and would humiliate you in front of your team-mates,” says Filipaina. “Lowey was different, he did the little things that made you comfortable and trust him.” Prior to the decision to tactical switch, Lowe did something extraordinary. He called his secret weapon in Auckland; Olsen’s late mother Sissie. Lowe explained the challenges Olsen faced in Lewis and tried to get her buy in. “No coach will ever have as much power as a mother and she is the best judge of what he is capable of,” Lowe said explaining his strategy. “If Sissie had even the slightest doubt, I wouldn’t have shifted him.”</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/apr/30/the-forgotten-story-of-olsen-filipaina'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/apr/30/the-forgotten-story-of-olsen-filipaina</a>    this is a good read </p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>More like shitty journalism not elaborating on what Lowe was saying. </p>

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                    • SneakdefreakS Offline
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                      Sneakdefreak
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                      #201

                      <p>Team named to buck the Broncos in Brisbane. Cappy appears to have nailed his nutsack to this line up. Win or get fired in 3. RFM the only change with Henry gone.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">1 Roger TUIVASA-SHECK<br><span>2 Tuimoala LOLOHEA<br>
                      3 Blake AYSHFORD<br>
                      4 Solomone KATA<br>
                      5 Manu VATUVEI<br>
                      6 Shaun JOHNSON<br>
                      7 Jeff ROBSON<br>
                      8 Jacob LILLYMAN<br>
                      9 Issac LUKE<br>
                      10 Ben MATULINO<br>
                      11 Bodene THOMPSON<br>
                      12 Ryan HOFFMAN (C)<br>
                      13 Simon MANNERING</span></p>
                      <div style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
                      <p>Interchange<br>
                      14 Nathaniel ROACHE<br>
                      15 Sam LISONE<br>
                      16 James GAVET<br>
                      17 Raymond FAITALA-MARINER </p>
                      </div>

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                      • jeggaJ Offline
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                        #202

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="563234" data-time="1457400816">
                        <div>
                        <p>Not sure that Lowe can be accused of being racist.</p>
                        <p>Seems like he had a strong affinity with his players</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>“Aussie coaches were in your face, talking a million miles an hour and would humiliate you in front of your team-mates,” says Filipaina. “Lowey was different, he did the little things that made you comfortable and trust him.” Prior to the decision to tactical switch, Lowe did something extraordinary. He called his secret weapon in Auckland; Olsen’s late mother Sissie. Lowe explained the challenges Olsen faced in Lewis and tried to get her buy in. “No coach will ever have as much power as a mother and she is the best judge of what he is capable of,” Lowe said explaining his strategy. “If Sissie had even the slightest doubt, I wouldn’t have shifted him.”</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/apr/30/the-forgotten-story-of-olsen-filipaina'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/apr/30/the-forgotten-story-of-olsen-filipaina</a>    this is a good read</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>More like shitty journalism not elaborating on what Lowe was saying. </p>
                        </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>That was a great read, cheers for posting that, you're right its not fair to call Lowe a racist. Loudmouth jackass yes, racist no.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Times;font-size:medium;">"I'm 49, I've had a brain haemorrhage and a triple bypass and I could still go out and play a reasonable game of rugby union. But I wouldn't last 30 seconds in rugby league." - Graham Lowe (1995)</p>

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                        • GunnerG Offline
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                          Gunner
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                          #203

                          All buckled in for the Broncos game. They've gotta be better than last week, surely? <br>
                          Read something somewhere on the interweb, Matty Johns thinks the Warriors need to play more direct up the middle of the park, and revolve their game plan around Luke.... That was something I asked last week - where are the trademark Issac Luke dummy half darts?<br><br>
                          And something that I don't buy is the excuse that the combo of Luke, Johnson & RTS needing time to gel.<br>
                          Bullshit!<br>
                          They play together for the Kiwis, and they've gone pretty bloody well lately, with those three a big part of that!<br><br>
                          No excuses, just do the bloody business!

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                          • SneakdefreakS Offline
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                            Sneakdefreak
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                            #204

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                            <p> </p>
                            <p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Read something somewhere on the interweb, Matty Johns thinks the Warriors need to play more direct up the middle of the park, and revolve their game plan around Luke.... </span></p>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/footy-form/how-can-the-warriors-get-things-so-wrong/news-story/3412566f5e46d3dcd4be27c0c51ecfac'>http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/footy-form/how-can-the-warriors-get-things-so-wrong/news-story/3412566f5e46d3dcd4be27c0c51ecfac</a></p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Explains it better than myself or anyone else on here. Just take the pill and run it up the middle all day long. It will open the lanes for SJ and RTS.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Also don't play sideways.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>And use Konrad Hurrell.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Basically do the opposite of what you did last weekend.</p>

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                            • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                              mariner4life
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                              #205

                              Gee what a surprise, the Broncos playing on a Friday night. At least the TV deal means i don't have to listen to Ray Hadley, and my ears aren't at risk of the screwdriver treatment.

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                                #206

                                This looks like first grade against reserve grade. <br><br>
                                6-0 after 8. <br><br>
                                Bye coach

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                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="564040" data-time="1457685664">
                                  <div>
                                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/footy-form/how-can-the-warriors-get-things-so-wrong/news-story/3412566f5e46d3dcd4be27c0c51ecfac'>http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/footy-form/how-can-the-warriors-get-things-so-wrong/news-story/3412566f5e46d3dcd4be27c0c51ecfac</a></p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Explains it better than myself or anyone else on here. Just take the pill and run it up the middle all day long. It will open the lanes for SJ and RTS.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Also don't play sideways.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>And use Konrad Hurrell.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Basically do the opposite of what you did last weekend.</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>I didnt see too much last week , </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Johns rates Luke highly , well he did when he was a wabbit , </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>And i heard him through the week saying they have to revolve their game around Lukes strengths </p>

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                                  • GunnerG Offline
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                                    9 penalties in 27 minutes....

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                                      ACT Crusader
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                                      #209

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="564052" data-time="1457687777"><p>This looks like first grade against reserve grade. <br><br>
                                      6-0 after 8. <br><br>
                                      Bye coach</p></blockquote>
                                      <br>
                                      We've looked good in the last 10 minutes. Making big yards and holding our D line.

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                                        #210

                                        Why can't RTS tackle?<br><br>
                                        We've been the better team for nearly 20 mins they finally shift to the left and we give up another. Shit effort by the fullback lets it in though. <br><br>
                                        12-8

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                                          #211

                                          Agreed Brandy not enough urgency from the cover. Up your game

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