All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug
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Four things I like about that team and three things I'm not so pleased about.
Really pleased:
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Great to have Brodie back
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Like that back row, especially Dalton Papali'i at 7. His form in Super Rugby was outstanding , hopefully he will carry that forward into Test Rugby. I'm glad Akira is being picked again at 6. Ardie is too good to leave out and has the versatility to play anywhere in the back row. Really strong unit with Jacobson just missing out.
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That is our top midfield back and half back combination.
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Delighted Reiko is back in the 11 Jersey.
Not pleased about:
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I don't get George Bower's selection. Hasn't shown Test starter quality at scrum time or around the park.
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Disappointed that Will Jordan hasn't been given the 14 Jersey. Is he injured?
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I'd go with Jordie ahead of DMac at 15. Both need to concentrate on reducing their error rate rather than constantly trying miracle plays.
Overall, pleased to see the coaches reward most of the best players in NZ.
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Four things I like about that team and three things I'm not so pleased about.
Really pleased:
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Great to have Brodie back
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Like that back row, especially Dalton Papali'i at 7. His form in Super Rugby was outstanding , hopefully he will carry that forward into Test Rugby. I'm glad Akira is being picked again at 6. Ardie is too good to leave out and has the versatility to play anywhere in the back row. Really strong unit with Jacobson just missing out.
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That is our top midfield back and half back combination.
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Delighted Reiko is back in the 11 Jersey.
Not pleased about:
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I don't get George Bower's selection. Hasn't shown Test starter quality at scrum time or around the park.
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Disappointed that Will Jordan hasn't been given the 14 Jersey. Is he injured?
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I'd go with Jordie ahead of DMac at 15. Both need to concentrate on reducing their error rate rather than constantly trying miracle plays.
Overall, pleased to see the coaches reward most of the best players in NZ.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
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He quietly put together a truly sensational Super season. Very very high quality, great to have him. He's put it on the track for the ABs as well, which is great.
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Four things I like about that team and three things I'm not so pleased about.
Really pleased:
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Great to have Brodie back
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Like that back row, especially Dalton Papali'i at 7. His form in Super Rugby was outstanding , hopefully he will carry that forward into Test Rugby. I'm glad Akira is being picked again at 6. Ardie is too good to leave out and has the versatility to play anywhere in the back row. Really strong unit with Jacobson just missing out.
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That is our top midfield back and half back combination.
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Delighted Reiko is back in the 11 Jersey.
Not pleased about:
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I don't get George Bower's selection. Hasn't shown Test starter quality at scrum time or around the park.
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Disappointed that Will Jordan hasn't been given the 14 Jersey. Is he injured?
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I'd go with Jordie ahead of DMac at 15. Both need to concentrate on reducing their error rate rather than constantly trying miracle plays.
Overall, pleased to see the coaches reward most of the best players in NZ.
that interview. Has Foster had his COVID test?
Certainly didn't look too enthusiastic until he got started about how he learnt a lot about Olympic trampolining (at the end there). Not sure how he is going to sneak the trampolines out to the lineouts without being spotted, but you got to give him credit for thinking outside the circle, into a bigger circle. -
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To get you in the zone -
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Mumble mumble mmmmm?
'Aw, we just believe he's right for this game'
Who, FFS?
Fucking amateur hour!
@machpants said in [All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug](/post/614938
Fucking amateur hour!
Did you not read the title. Fosters name is right there.
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Looking at the NPC refereeing appointments, no Fraser or Williams listed. O'Keeffe and Berry are in SA. Is Gardner fit now?
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Four things I like about that team and three things I'm not so pleased about.
Really pleased:
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Great to have Brodie back
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Like that back row, especially Dalton Papali'i at 7. His form in Super Rugby was outstanding , hopefully he will carry that forward into Test Rugby. I'm glad Akira is being picked again at 6. Ardie is too good to leave out and has the versatility to play anywhere in the back row. Really strong unit with Jacobson just missing out.
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That is our top midfield back and half back combination.
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Delighted Reiko is back in the 11 Jersey.
Not pleased about:
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I don't get George Bower's selection. Hasn't shown Test starter quality at scrum time or around the park.
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Disappointed that Will Jordan hasn't been given the 14 Jersey. Is he injured?
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I'd go with Jordie ahead of DMac at 15. Both need to concentrate on reducing their error rate rather than constantly trying miracle plays.
Overall, pleased to see the coaches reward most of the best players in NZ.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Why the fuck don't they give mics to the bloody questioners?
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Why the fuck don't they give mics to the bloody questioners?
It's like playing a gameshow - Guess who the Fuck Fozzie is talking about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
jesus, it's like they make a couple of decisions just to fuck with the public. It all looks so good, and then we end up with fucking Ardie at 8 again. And seriously, if DMac's last test didn't play him out of the spot, then it is impossible to get dropped from the ABs
We are desperately short at fullback.
What did DMac do so poorly in his last test?
Serious question as I’m trying to remember. Even went back to the thread to see if it was just me forgetting things.
Sure the DMac v JB debate continues with merit and there are fairly valid concerns on the overall size of the backline (that shouldn’t have to be fixed by the 15).
There are also the old perceptions of headless chook play based on previous years that haven’t been shaken.
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
jesus, it's like they make a couple of decisions just to fuck with the public. It all looks so good, and then we end up with fucking Ardie at 8 again. And seriously, if DMac's last test didn't play him out of the spot, then it is impossible to get dropped from the ABs
We are desperately short at fullback.
What did DMac do so poorly in his last test?
Serious question as I’m trying to remember. Even went back to the thread to see if it was just me forgetting things.
Sure the DMac v JB debate continues with merit and there are fairly valid concerns on the overall size of the backline (that shouldn’t have to be fixed by the 15).
There are also the old perceptions of headless chook play based on previous years that haven’t been shaken.
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.My memory (other than awesome try saver) is getting tackled easily behind the advantage line. The bigger players are able to stand in the tackle longer.
DMac has a similar problem to Bridge but for different reasons. If he’s not in space then he doesn’t offer much. Bridge has concrete feet, and DMac might be too small for fullback.
I’d put him on the right wing and let him pop up whenever he likes. Could be freed from the requirements of fullback and we could actually get full value from him. Cory Jane style fullback winger.
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Would have preferred Jacobsen and Jordie to start but otherwise happy enough. Just stoked to see Akira and Dalton there. And of course Reiko in his proper position. Those are the kind of selections we need going forward.
Pretty good bench as well!
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Think the backline is pretty spot-on - only think that could be changed would be DMac as a super-sub rather than starting. Hope the DH/ALB combination goes well and continues to develop - think there's some serious potential there. Great that Reiko is starting as, from what we have seen in the last few games, he's getting his mojo back
Not sure about 7 & 8, (I'd have Ardie at 7 & Jacobson at 8 ) but perhaps Foster wants experience at 8. Akira has the opportunity to nail down the 6 slot and deserves his place.
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Geezuz we love a moan eh?
Actually surprisingly happy with that team.
Like the backline - I feel more safe with Reece over Jordan - his all around game is much more complete. Jordan does pretty well at running in tries, but his flaws (linking, defence) will be exposed a lot more against Aus. Rieko is the form winger in the team. As well as the fact Jordan is injured - what would people have rather seen?
Likewise the loosies - Papali'i was the form loose forward in SR and I really like the balance they've got there. Jacobson will bring a huge effort off the bench.
Yeah I guess FR is a bit meh, but we'll get more out of our hooker/locls than Aus will.
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Geezuz we love a moan eh?
Actually surprisingly happy with that team.
Like the backline - I feel more safe with Reece over Jordan - his all around game is much more complete. Jordan does pretty well at running in tries, but his flaws (linking, defence) will be exposed a lot more against Aus. Rieko is the form winger in the team. As well as the fact Jordan is injured - what would people have rather seen?
Likewise the loosies - Papali'i was the form loose forward in SR and I really like the balance they've got there. Jacobson will bring a huge effort off the bench.
Yeah I guess FR is a bit meh, but we'll get more out of our hooker/locls than Aus will.
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Geezuz we love a moan eh?
Actually surprisingly happy with that team.
Like the backline - I feel more safe with Reece over Jordan - his all around game is much more complete. Jordan does pretty well at running in tries, but his flaws (linking, defence) will be exposed a lot more against Aus. Rieko is the form winger in the team. As well as the fact Jordan is injured - what would people have rather seen?
Likewise the loosies - Papali'i was the form loose forward in SR and I really like the balance they've got there. Jacobson will bring a huge effort off the bench.
Yeah I guess FR is a bit meh, but we'll get more out of our hooker/locls than Aus will.
@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Geezuz we love a moan eh?
Actually surprisingly happy with that team.
Like the backline - I feel more safe with Reece over Jordan - his all around game is much more complete. Jordan does pretty well at running in tries, but his flaws (linking, defence) will be exposed a lot more against Aus. Rieko is the form winger in the team. As well as the fact Jordan is injured - what would people have rather seen?
Likewise the loosies - Papali'i was the form loose forward in SR and I really like the balance they've got there. Jacobson will bring a huge effort off the bench.
Yeah I guess FR is a bit meh, but we'll get more out of our hooker/locls than Aus will.
Yeah I'm pretty happy, especially surprised foster has the guts to tell Ioane to wind his neck in and play in his best position, not where he wants. DMac for me on the bench for jordie. But neither set the world on fire this year in tests. No way we could leave Ardie out of the loose trio, you need some experience. Finally front row, no idea about that, dark arts, but I think Taylor really needs to step up
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
jesus, it's like they make a couple of decisions just to fuck with the public. It all looks so good, and then we end up with fucking Ardie at 8 again. And seriously, if DMac's last test didn't play him out of the spot, then it is impossible to get dropped from the ABs
We are desperately short at fullback.
What did DMac do so poorly in his last test?
Serious question as I’m trying to remember. Even went back to the thread to see if it was just me forgetting things.
Sure the DMac v JB debate continues with merit and there are fairly valid concerns on the overall size of the backline (that shouldn’t have to be fixed by the 15).
There are also the old perceptions of headless chook play based on previous years that haven’t been shaken.
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.My memory (other than awesome try saver) is getting tackled easily behind the advantage line. The bigger players are able to stand in the tackle longer.
DMac has a similar problem to Bridge but for different reasons. If he’s not in space then he doesn’t offer much. Bridge has concrete feet, and DMac might be too small for fullback.
I’d put him on the right wing and let him pop up whenever he likes. Could be freed from the requirements of fullback and we could actually get full value from him. Cory Jane style fullback winger.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
jesus, it's like they make a couple of decisions just to fuck with the public. It all looks so good, and then we end up with fucking Ardie at 8 again. And seriously, if DMac's last test didn't play him out of the spot, then it is impossible to get dropped from the ABs
We are desperately short at fullback.
What did DMac do so poorly in his last test?
Serious question as I’m trying to remember. Even went back to the thread to see if it was just me forgetting things.
Sure the DMac v JB debate continues with merit and there are fairly valid concerns on the overall size of the backline (that shouldn’t have to be fixed by the 15).
There are also the old perceptions of headless chook play based on previous years that haven’t been shaken.
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.My memory (other than awesome try saver) is getting tackled easily behind the advantage line. The bigger players are able to stand in the tackle longer.
DMac has a similar problem to Bridge but for different reasons. If he’s not in space then he doesn’t offer much. Bridge has concrete feet, and DMac might be too small for fullback.
I’d put him on the right wing and let him pop up whenever he likes. Could be freed from the requirements of fullback and we could actually get full value from him. Cory Jane style fullback winger.
I get all that. I’m not trying to argue that he is the best 15 just that he didn’t deserve the comment that he played himself out of the team in his last outing.
Yes his weakness at test level is size simply because it’s more likely that he will be caught upright in the carry and get driven back. The counter to that is elusiveness. -
@bones loosie balance probably not there yet, but Ardie will still put in a good shift even out of position.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@bones loosie balance probably not there yet, but Ardie will still put in a good shift even out of position.
Let's see...
Probably our 2 fastest loosies (Savea, Ioane).
Probably our 2 most abrasive loosies (Papali'i, Ioane).
Probably our 2 best jackals (Savea, Papali'i).
One of them will be replaced by a guy in the form of his life who is a great hybrid of all three.Not a lot to be unhappy about for me.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@bones loosie balance probably not there yet, but Ardie will still put in a good shift even out of position.
Let's see...
Probably our 2 fastest loosies (Savea, Ioane).
Probably our 2 most abrasive loosies (Papali'i, Ioane).
Probably our 2 best jackals (Savea, Papali'i).
One of them will be replaced by a guy in the form of his life who is a great hybrid of all three.Not a lot to be unhappy about for me.
@bones I didnt say I was unhappy, just that trio doesnt seem as well balanced as previous trios, but is still a very good trio.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
jesus, it's like they make a couple of decisions just to fuck with the public. It all looks so good, and then we end up with fucking Ardie at 8 again. And seriously, if DMac's last test didn't play him out of the spot, then it is impossible to get dropped from the ABs
We are desperately short at fullback.
What did DMac do so poorly in his last test?
Serious question as I’m trying to remember. Even went back to the thread to see if it was just me forgetting things.
Sure the DMac v JB debate continues with merit and there are fairly valid concerns on the overall size of the backline (that shouldn’t have to be fixed by the 15).
There are also the old perceptions of headless chook play based on previous years that haven’t been shaken.
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.My memory (other than awesome try saver) is getting tackled easily behind the advantage line. The bigger players are able to stand in the tackle longer.
DMac has a similar problem to Bridge but for different reasons. If he’s not in space then he doesn’t offer much. Bridge has concrete feet, and DMac might be too small for fullback.
I’d put him on the right wing and let him pop up whenever he likes. Could be freed from the requirements of fullback and we could actually get full value from him. Cory Jane style fullback winger.
I get all that. I’m not trying to argue that he is the best 15 just that he didn’t deserve the comment that he played himself out of the team in his last outing.
Yes his weakness at test level is size simply because it’s more likely that he will be caught upright in the carry and get driven back. The counter to that is elusiveness.@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
jesus, it's like they make a couple of decisions just to fuck with the public. It all looks so good, and then we end up with fucking Ardie at 8 again. And seriously, if DMac's last test didn't play him out of the spot, then it is impossible to get dropped from the ABs
We are desperately short at fullback.
What did DMac do so poorly in his last test?
Serious question as I’m trying to remember. Even went back to the thread to see if it was just me forgetting things.
Sure the DMac v JB debate continues with merit and there are fairly valid concerns on the overall size of the backline (that shouldn’t have to be fixed by the 15).
There are also the old perceptions of headless chook play based on previous years that haven’t been shaken.
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.My memory (other than awesome try saver) is getting tackled easily behind the advantage line. The bigger players are able to stand in the tackle longer.
DMac has a similar problem to Bridge but for different reasons. If he’s not in space then he doesn’t offer much. Bridge has concrete feet, and DMac might be too small for fullback.
I’d put him on the right wing and let him pop up whenever he likes. Could be freed from the requirements of fullback and we could actually get full value from him. Cory Jane style fullback winger.
I get all that. I’m not trying to argue that he is the best 15 just that he didn’t deserve the comment that he played himself out of the team in his last outing.
Yes his weakness at test level is size simply because it’s more likely that he will be caught upright in the carry and get driven back. The counter to that is elusiveness.Yes, but as the standard of opposition gets stronger then that weakness gets exploited more. Particularly with Reece on the wing as well, not a great defender and also a midget.
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
jesus, it's like they make a couple of decisions just to fuck with the public. It all looks so good, and then we end up with fucking Ardie at 8 again. And seriously, if DMac's last test didn't play him out of the spot, then it is impossible to get dropped from the ABs
We are desperately short at fullback.
What did DMac do so poorly in his last test?
Serious question as I’m trying to remember. Even went back to the thread to see if it was just me forgetting things.
Sure the DMac v JB debate continues with merit and there are fairly valid concerns on the overall size of the backline (that shouldn’t have to be fixed by the 15).
There are also the old perceptions of headless chook play based on previous years that haven’t been shaken.
I remember the amazing chase back, tackle and turnover but that’s about it.My memory (other than awesome try saver) is getting tackled easily behind the advantage line. The bigger players are able to stand in the tackle longer.
DMac has a similar problem to Bridge but for different reasons. If he’s not in space then he doesn’t offer much. Bridge has concrete feet, and DMac might be too small for fullback.
I’d put him on the right wing and let him pop up whenever he likes. Could be freed from the requirements of fullback and we could actually get full value from him. Cory Jane style fullback winger.
I get all that. I’m not trying to argue that he is the best 15 just that he didn’t deserve the comment that he played himself out of the team in his last outing.
Yes his weakness at test level is size simply because it’s more likely that he will be caught upright in the carry and get driven back. The counter to that is elusiveness.Yes, but as the standard of opposition gets stronger then that weakness gets exploited more. Particularly with Reece on the wing as well, not a great defender and also a midget.
