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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug

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  • M Machpants

    So we’ve got a few trial rules
    50/22 which I think menas if you kick it from your half and it bounces out inside their 22 you get the throw
    A pre tackle binding one, only one person can bind?
    Cleanout not allowed to drop weight on jackler or target lower limbs
    red card 20 min
    golden point
    Anything else?

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    @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

    So we’ve got a few trial rules
    50/22 which I think menas if you kick it from your half and it bounces out inside their 22 you get the throw
    A pre tackle binding one, only one person can bind?
    Cleanout not allowed to drop weight on jackler or target lower limbs
    red card 20 min
    golden point
    Anything else?

    Largely bad ideas as far as I can tell.
    A rule to encourage kicking instead of running? It might provide some variation from the blight of box-kicking at best - but the first two players I think of benefitting from a rule like this are the godawful attacking-ball ruining Sexton and O'Gara. What's the best case? More lineout maul drives, everybody's favourite form of attacking rugby?
    Making the already messy ruck rulings more difficult to police.
    Nobody wants golden point.
    All of these rules tend to make the game slower. If you want to increase player safety, make the game fast and open, and reduce the substitutions. Everyone gets smaller because they have to be fitter, and people don't get hurt as much.

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    • R reprobate

      @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

      So we’ve got a few trial rules
      50/22 which I think menas if you kick it from your half and it bounces out inside their 22 you get the throw
      A pre tackle binding one, only one person can bind?
      Cleanout not allowed to drop weight on jackler or target lower limbs
      red card 20 min
      golden point
      Anything else?

      Largely bad ideas as far as I can tell.
      A rule to encourage kicking instead of running? It might provide some variation from the blight of box-kicking at best - but the first two players I think of benefitting from a rule like this are the godawful attacking-ball ruining Sexton and O'Gara. What's the best case? More lineout maul drives, everybody's favourite form of attacking rugby?
      Making the already messy ruck rulings more difficult to police.
      Nobody wants golden point.
      All of these rules tend to make the game slower. If you want to increase player safety, make the game fast and open, and reduce the substitutions. Everyone gets smaller because they have to be fitter, and people don't get hurt as much.

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      @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

      @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

      So we’ve got a few trial rules
      50/22 which I think menas if you kick it from your half and it bounces out inside their 22 you get the throw
      A pre tackle binding one, only one person can bind?
      Cleanout not allowed to drop weight on jackler or target lower limbs
      red card 20 min
      golden point
      Anything else?

      Largely bad ideas as far as I can tell.
      A rule to encourage kicking instead of running? It might provide some variation from the blight of box-kicking at best - but the first two players I think of benefitting from a rule like this are the godawful attacking-ball ruining Sexton and O'Gara. What's the best case? More lineout maul drives, everybody's favourite form of attacking rugby?
      Making the already messy ruck rulings more difficult to police.
      Nobody wants golden point.
      All of these rules tend to make the game slower. If you want to increase player safety, make the game fast and open, and reduce the substitutions. Everyone gets smaller because they have to be fitter, and people don't get hurt as much.

      It's actually to encourage running. On D you've got to cover the kick so have to leave men out of the defensive line.

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      • boobooB booboo

        @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

        So we’ve got a few trial rules
        50/22 which I think menas if you kick it from your half and it bounces out inside their 22 you get the throw
        A pre tackle binding one, only one person can bind?
        Cleanout not allowed to drop weight on jackler or target lower limbs
        red card 20 min
        golden point
        Anything else?

        Largely bad ideas as far as I can tell.
        A rule to encourage kicking instead of running? It might provide some variation from the blight of box-kicking at best - but the first two players I think of benefitting from a rule like this are the godawful attacking-ball ruining Sexton and O'Gara. What's the best case? More lineout maul drives, everybody's favourite form of attacking rugby?
        Making the already messy ruck rulings more difficult to police.
        Nobody wants golden point.
        All of these rules tend to make the game slower. If you want to increase player safety, make the game fast and open, and reduce the substitutions. Everyone gets smaller because they have to be fitter, and people don't get hurt as much.

        It's actually to encourage running. On D you've got to cover the kick so have to leave men out of the defensive line.

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        @booboo I see the theory, but will believe the practice when i see it. if you have a half chance to run with a winger standing a bit deep, and a half chance to peel off 40m with a kick and get the lineout with a winger standing a bit shallow, then lots of people are going for the kick.

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          Memory lane

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          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

          Memory lane

          He’d make a great centre if given a chance

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            Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
            They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
              They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

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              @chris mouthy? by this do you mean they've been hitting the bottle too much because that certainly seems to be the case.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

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                @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                At least we haven’t seen any sheep ads in the lead up to this test.

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                • D Derpus

                  @chris mouthy? by this do you mean they've been hitting the bottle too much because that certainly seems to be the case.

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                  @derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                  @chris mouthy? by this do you mean they've been hitting the bottle too much because that certainly seems to be the case.

                  That too, just a lot of Pump about taking it to the AB'S Banter if its fired me up its good banter.Adds to the occasion better to be engaged than not.

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                    Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                    They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                    At least we haven’t seen any sheep ads in the lead up to this test.

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                    @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                    @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                    Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                    They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                    At least we haven’t seen any sheep ads in the lead up to this test.

                    No but heard a few, all old ones.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                      They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

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                      @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                      Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                      They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                      I think your are 20 years out of date for this sort of post. 🙂

                      Hoping for a good game, been some good rugby lately, despite Rapidos depressing take on NZ Rugby.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                        Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                        They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                        I think your are 20 years out of date for this sort of post. 🙂

                        Hoping for a good game, been some good rugby lately, despite Rapidos depressing take on NZ Rugby.

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                        @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                        @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                        Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                        They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                        I think your are 20 years out of date for this sort of post. 🙂

                        Hoping for a good game, been some good rugby lately, despite Rapidos depressing take on NZ Rugby.

                        Yeah I know,Just trying to fire up some supporters.Hoping for the old contests of not knowing who was going to win.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                          @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                          Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                          They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                          I think your are 20 years out of date for this sort of post. 🙂

                          Hoping for a good game, been some good rugby lately, despite Rapidos depressing take on NZ Rugby.

                          Yeah I know,Just trying to fire up some supporters.Hoping for the old contests of not knowing who was going to win.

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                          @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                          @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                          Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                          They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                          I think your are 20 years out of date for this sort of post. 🙂

                          Hoping for a good game, been some good rugby lately, despite Rapidos depressing take on NZ Rugby.

                          Yeah I know,Just trying to fire up some supporters.Hoping for the old contests of not knowing who was going to win.

                          Sure, as long as the good guys win. 😉

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                            Stargazer
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                            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1423871697728393216

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                              Memory lane

                              He’d make a great centre if given a chance

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                              @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                              @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                              Memory lane

                              He’d make a great centre if given a chance

                              But..but...he played there at school!

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                              • R reprobate

                                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                                So we’ve got a few trial rules
                                50/22 which I think menas if you kick it from your half and it bounces out inside their 22 you get the throw
                                A pre tackle binding one, only one person can bind?
                                Cleanout not allowed to drop weight on jackler or target lower limbs
                                red card 20 min
                                golden point
                                Anything else?

                                Largely bad ideas as far as I can tell.
                                A rule to encourage kicking instead of running? It might provide some variation from the blight of box-kicking at best - but the first two players I think of benefitting from a rule like this are the godawful attacking-ball ruining Sexton and O'Gara. What's the best case? More lineout maul drives, everybody's favourite form of attacking rugby?
                                Making the already messy ruck rulings more difficult to police.
                                Nobody wants golden point.
                                All of these rules tend to make the game slower. If you want to increase player safety, make the game fast and open, and reduce the substitutions. Everyone gets smaller because they have to be fitter, and people don't get hurt as much.

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                                @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                                If you want to increase player safety, make the game fast and open, and reduce the substitutions.

                                I've seen a couple of people say this and it doesn't compute for me.

                                In my mind what that leads to is players being more prone to error (e.g. high tackles) as they're more tired, as well as bodies being more prone to injury.

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                                  It’s understood that the illness isn’t serious, but the All Blacks coaches have decided to play safe and go with Tuipulotu.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                                    They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

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                                    @chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                                    Come on AB,s smash these Wallabies tonight.
                                    They are just getting to mouthy,time to put them back in their place.

                                    @Chris is @Virgils alter ego

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                                      Ffs it's steinlager or steinlager light

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        It’s understood that the illness isn’t serious, but the All Blacks coaches have decided to play safe and go with Tuipulotu.

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                                        @tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                                        It’s understood that the illness isn’t serious, but the All Blacks coaches have decided to play safe and go with Tuipulotu.

                                        Patty T needs a big one if he gets on - he is nearing last chance saloon at test level, save for the fact that there aren't too many other compelling alternatives.

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                                          @tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                                          It’s understood that the illness isn’t serious, but the All Blacks coaches have decided to play safe and go with Tuipulotu.

                                          Patty T needs a big one if he gets on - he is nearing last chance saloon at test level, save for the fact that there aren't too many other compelling alternatives.

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                                          @frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                                          @tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

                                          It’s understood that the illness isn’t serious, but the All Blacks coaches have decided to play safe and go with Tuipulotu.

                                          Patty T needs a big one if he gets on - he is nearing last chance saloon at test level, save for the fact that there aren't too many other compelling alternatives.

                                          I can't really think of a game where he's let us down from the bench. I have a couple of memories of him coming off the bench and stealing the next lineout though.

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