All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug

[NTA]

1. James Slipper (104 Tests)
2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa (13 Tests)
3. Allan Alaalatoa (47 Tests)
4. Darcy Swain (4 Tests)
5. Matt Philip (13 Tests)

Right now probably our best scrummaging tight 5.

6. Lachlan Swinton (2 Tests)
7. Michael Hooper (c) (109 Tests)
8. Rob Valetini (8 Tests)

Interesting - Wilson was a bit quiet last week. Obviously trying to bring a bit of an edge with Swinton.

9. Tate McDermott (6 Tests)
10. Noah Lolesio (6 Tests)

Essentially: ain't broke, don't fix it.

12. Matt To’omua (58 Tests)
13. Hunter Paisami (10 Tests)

Really can't agree with this - while Paisami had some poor moments last week he also had some great ones, and he IS NOT A FUCKING 13. Ikitau should feel hard done by. Paisami marking Ioane is going to give the Kiwi the outside shoulder he needs.

11. Marika Koroibete (37 Tests)
12. Andrew Kellaway (3 Tests)
13. Tom Banks (15 Tests)

Pretty much as expected, as is the bench.

[Old Samurai Jack]

Attacking wise the AB team looks good but defensively is does have an unknown quality to it.

[booboo]

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

Team here:

1. George Bower (4)
2. Codie Taylor (59)
3. Nepo Laulala (32)
4. Brodie Retallick (84)
5. Samuel Whitelock (126) - captain
6. Akira Ioane (5)
7. Dalton Papalii (6)
8. Ardie Savea (51)
9. Aaron Smith (100)
10. Richie Mo’unga (25)
11. Sevu Reece (11)
12. David Havili (6)
13. Rieko Ioane (38)
14. Will Jordan (5)
15. Damian McKenzie (31)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (2)
17. Karl Tu’inukuafe (19)
18. Angus Ta’avao (17)
19. Scott Barrett (42)
20. Luke Jacobson (6)
21. TJ Perenara (69)
22. Beauden Barrett (92)
23. Jordie Barrett (26)

That's a shit team.

The loosies are close to being good, and our second row could be good if they can wind back the years.

Smith is world class and best in the world in my opinion.

Beyond that though, the front row is average (Taylor looks fucking tired and miles off his best), our 10 is yet to stamp his mark, the midfilders hardly know each other, and the back three is a huge bet that they'll play to their strengths and not constantly miss tackles and give turnovers.

We look really really fucking light in the backs with one weapon (Ioane) and too many playmakers (RM, DH, Dmac, BB).

There is no centre cover in that team either, I assume Reece, Havili or Jordie have to fill in if Ioane gets injured in the first minute.

You've said what's wrong, what would you do different?

[Stargazer]

[Derpus]

@nta Yeah, Toomua hasn't done enough to force Paisami out of his best position and Ikitau out of the team entirely.

I really like having Ikitau's left boot available and he's far more solid in defense.

Our pack looks stronger IMO. Key will be Swinton keeping his edge controlled but with plenty of more experienced heads around him I don't think it will be an issue.

[NTA]

@derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@nta Yeah, Toomua hasn't done enough to force Paisami out of his best position and Ikitau out of the team entirely.

I really like having Ikitau's left boot available and he's far more solid in defense.

Our pack looks stronger IMO. Key will be Swinton keeping his edge controlled but with plenty of more experienced heads around him I don't think it will be an issue.

If Swinton hasn't learned from the last red card, well... fuck...

Toomua injected some decent things in the last quarter of Bledv1 but not sure it was worth disrupting the midfield, particularly as the ABs were forced to disrupt theirs.

[Tim]

@stargazer Sounds like we'll be playing SA in Australia.

[Machpants]

@tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@stargazer Sounds like we'll be playing SA in Australia.

Always going to be the case as soon as NSW covid cases exploded, sadly. That's four odd months in hotels for the ABs

[Machpants]

In terms of the Wallabies who have, as usual, had plenty to say about their prospects, Foster indicated a clear message had been received.

“They’re going to try to be more aggressive … they’ve said they want to take us on a bit more. That’s the response we’d expect out of them. I’m pretty intrigued they’re trying to pile pressure on us. It’s a Bledisloe Cup series, they’re 1-0 down, and I’m pretty sure there’s a bit of pressure on them too. We want to win it.”

Does the aura make Swinton see red, I wonder?

[mariner4life]

i hope we get a fight

let the boys blue ref!

[Derpus]

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[Bovidae]

LIstening to that press conference the 20 min red card is to be used for the RC even though WR isn't a fan. Up yours Dublin!

[Nepia]

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

LIstening to that press conference the 20 min red card is to be used for the RC even though WR isn't a fan. Up yours Dublin!

I would be more happy if we weren’t playing the two league kicking laws as well.

[KiwiMurph]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

i hope we get a fight

let the boys blue ref!

Queenslander!

[mariner4life]

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

i hope we get a fight

let the boys blue ref!

Queenslander!

nah, battle of brooky style!!

[Nepia]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

i hope we get a fight

let the boys blue ref!

Queenslander!

nah, battle of brooky style!!

Do you want it to be 5 Aussies on 1 AB or the other way round?

If Foster had known there was going to be fighting he might have selected Shannon.

[mariner4life]

@nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

he might have selected Shannon

well experienced beating up girls

[ACT Crusader]

I actually don’t mind the team. Glad they kept the starting loose trio. Midfield makes sense given the ALB injury.

ABs by 20+.

[ACT Crusader]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

i hope we get a fight

let the boys blue ref!

Queenslander!

nah, battle of brooky style!!

One of the great League moments. I won’t say “sport moments” so as to not offend…

[cgrant]

@nta said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:

1. James Slipper (104 Tests)
2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa (13 Tests)
3. Allan Alaalatoa (47 Tests)
4. Darcy Swain (4 Tests)
5. Matt Philip (13 Tests)

Right now probably our best scrummaging tight 5.

6. Lachlan Swinton (2 Tests)
7. Michael Hooper (c) (109 Tests)
8. Rob Valetini (8 Tests)

Interesting - Wilson was a bit quiet last week. Obviously trying to bring a bit of an edge with Swinton.

9. Tate McDermott (6 Tests)
10. Noah Lolesio (6 Tests)

Essentially: ain't broke, don't fix it.

12. Matt To’omua (58 Tests)
13. Hunter Paisami (10 Tests)

Really can't agree with this - while Paisami had some poor moments last week he also had some great ones, and he IS NOT A FUCKING 13. Ikitau should feel hard done by. Paisami marking Ioane is going to give the Kiwi the outside shoulder he needs.

11. Marika Koroibete (37 Tests)
12. Andrew Kellaway (3 Tests)
13. Tom Banks (15 Tests)

Pretty much as expected, as is the bench.

Bell did very well last week. I am surprised by his non selection.