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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Rugbypass attempts to name a XV for the first round

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/picking-a-starting-chiefs-team-for-round-one-of-super-rugby-pacific/

    1 Aidan Ross
    2 Bradley Slater
    3 Sione Mafileo
    4 Josh Lord
    5 Tupou Vaa’i
    6 Samipeni Finau
    7 Sam Cane
    8 Luke Jacobson
    9 Brad Weber
    10 Bryn Gatland
    11 Etene Nanai-Seturo
    12 Quinn Tupaea
    13 Anton Lienert-Brown
    14 Jonah Lowe
    15 Kaleb Trask

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    @duluth Chiefs big focus should be trying to get Ioane to play to his potential as their starting 10 as soon as possible. Gatland is a solid player but not good enough to win a comp with - Ioane's ceiling is much higher.

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      Tom Vinicombe is an Aussie isn't he? I can't say I agree with his team.

      Let's see who McMillan selects to start for Friday's game. The ABs are back this week so if the likes of Weber, ALB etc are starting in Rd 1 there is no reason to think that Taukei’aho won't either.

      Ioane has to start, and there is some competition in the back three positions. I'd actually like to see Stevenson at fullback because he is better under the high ball than Trask and his kick-return can be a weapon.

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        If they roll out that team, I'll be moaning about the coaches even earlier this year.

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          If they roll out that team, I'll be moaning about the coaches even earlier this year.

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          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

          If they roll out that team, I'll be moaning about the coaches even earlier this year.

          Why. It's not meant to be the best team just a possible first round one given that some ABs may be given longer breaks and some squad members didn't get much rugby last year.

          Some other explanation here

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/how-the-chiefs-plan-to-reintegrate-their-all-blacks/

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            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

            If they roll out that team, I'll be moaning about the coaches even earlier this year.

            Why. It's not meant to be the best team just a possible first round one given that some ABs may be given longer breaks and some squad members didn't get much rugby last year.

            Some other explanation here

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/how-the-chiefs-plan-to-reintegrate-their-all-blacks/

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            @crucial

            In honesty, it would depend on the rest of the 23, but that's a must-win game so I hope we play some more ABs.

            At 10, Gatland is not the answer, we have to see if Ioane can set the team up for success. It doesn't matter if you are the coach's son or not, this isn't under 15s.

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              @crucial

              In honesty, it would depend on the rest of the 23, but that's a must-win game so I hope we play some more ABs.

              At 10, Gatland is not the answer, we have to see if Ioane can set the team up for success. It doesn't matter if you are the coach's son or not, this isn't under 15s.

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              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

              @crucial

              In honesty, it would depend on the rest of the 23, but that's a must-win game so I hope we play some more ABs.

              At 10, Gatland is not the answer, we have to see if Ioane can set the team up for success. It doesn't matter if you are the coach's son or not, this isn't under 15s.

              Totally agree about Gatland but we are also only guessing about how well Ioane is going at training and have no idea how ready the ABs are.
              The second article explains that all are available but the coaches won’t pick them unless totally ready.
              A player that is 90% as good as the top guy is a better option if the top guy is 80% ready. ….. kind of
              I guess we will see. I have no doubt they will put out the best team they can, it just may not be what we think it should be.

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                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                @crucial

                In honesty, it would depend on the rest of the 23, but that's a must-win game so I hope we play some more ABs.

                At 10, Gatland is not the answer, we have to see if Ioane can set the team up for success. It doesn't matter if you are the coach's son or not, this isn't under 15s.

                Totally agree about Gatland but we are also only guessing about how well Ioane is going at training and have no idea how ready the ABs are.
                The second article explains that all are available but the coaches won’t pick them unless totally ready.
                A player that is 90% as good as the top guy is a better option if the top guy is 80% ready. ….. kind of
                I guess we will see. I have no doubt they will put out the best team they can, it just may not be what we think it should be.

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                @crucial

                I reviewed our squad and we are either the 3rd best team or the 5th. We have potentially a very dangerous forward pack, good halves (could be really good if Ioane turns it on), and a solid midfield.

                The back three though… some players really need to stand up this year - ENS and/or Stevenson are crucial if our back three is to be really dangerous. If both of them don’t become a consistent threat, while remaining defensive liabilities (at times), we’ll struggle to put out a back three that can really cause trouble.

                I’m hoping that Narawa turns out to be a good pickup.

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                  @crucial

                  I reviewed our squad and we are either the 3rd best team or the 5th. We have potentially a very dangerous forward pack, good halves (could be really good if Ioane turns it on), and a solid midfield.

                  The back three though… some players really need to stand up this year - ENS and/or Stevenson are crucial if our back three is to be really dangerous. If both of them don’t become a consistent threat, while remaining defensive liabilities (at times), we’ll struggle to put out a back three that can really cause trouble.

                  I’m hoping that Narawa turns out to be a good pickup.

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                  @gt12 It remains to be seen if McMillan favours some of his BOP players. I'm thinking of Trask and Narawa in the backline, in particular.

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                    @gt12 It remains to be seen if McMillan favours some of his BOP players. I'm thinking of Trask and Narawa in the backline, in particular.

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                    @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                    @gt12 It remains to be seen if McMillan favours some of his BOP players. I'm thinking of Trask and Narawa in the backline, in particular.

                    Both are question marks.

                    With Tiatia there, we could have lots and lots of rocks/diamonds in the back three…

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                      They are playing 3 x 30 mins so expect plenty of substitutions.

                      272869974_10159956902497210_8291735348417596954_n.jpg

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                        They are playing 3 x 30 mins so expect plenty of substitutions.

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                        @bovidae could have been a good game to try ENS at fullback but they seem wedded to the idea of all these 10/15s

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                          21 contracted players? no moli

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                            @bovidae could have been a good game to try ENS at fullback but they seem wedded to the idea of all these 10/15s

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                            @crucial narawa is at fullback.?

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                              @crucial narawa is at fullback.?

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                              @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                              @crucial narawa is at fullback

                              Where do you see that?

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                                @ARHS Yeah, it does look like 2 different XVs have been named. 4 extras starting.

                                Hopefully we see different combinations in that 3rd period. Wrampling is also missing.

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                                  @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  @crucial narawa is at fullback

                                  Where do you see that?

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                                  @crucial sorry tried to put a question mark. But the way they ordered the players it looked a bit that way.

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                                    @ARHS Yeah, it does look like 2 different XVs have been named. 4 extras starting.

                                    Hopefully we see different combinations in that 3rd period. Wrampling is also missing.

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                                    @bovidae. Maybe one of the hooker will play as a loosie 2nd half

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                                      @ARHS Yeah, it does look like 2 different XVs have been named. 4 extras starting.

                                      Hopefully we see different combinations in that 3rd period. Wrampling is also missing.

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                                      @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                      @ARHS Yeah, it does look like 2 different XVs have been named. 4 extras starting.

                                      Hopefully we see different combinations in that 3rd period. Wrampling is also missing.

                                      I see now. Doh! Tiatia at 12 threw me out from spotting that.

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                                        @bovidae. Maybe one of the hooker will play as a loosie 2nd half

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                                        @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @bovidae. Maybe one of the hooker will play as a loosie 2nd half

                                        Three front rowers in the "reserves", plus a halfback. Slater was decent at 7.

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                                          @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          @ARHS Yeah, it does look like 2 different XVs have been named. 4 extras starting.

                                          Hopefully we see different combinations in that 3rd period. Wrampling is also missing.

                                          I see now. Doh! Tiatia at 12 threw me out from spotting that.

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                                          @crucial Tiatia looks to be named on the left wing. Lowe at centre.

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