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    @bovidae is Richard Judd back home and available?

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    @arhs I wouldn't be selecting any new player from outside the region unless they were AB quality, one of the classy age-group players or a big improvement in what is already there. Judd is also 29.

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      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125471428/super-rugby-review-chiefs-can-be-proud-of-progress-amid-coaching-merrygoround

      In terms of the playing group, expect a largely unchanged roster to be reassembled. Two months ago Collins told Stuff around 30 of their 38-man squad for 2022 had already been locked in.

      Old article but I'm just googling stuff for a smidge of info. Didn't realise this many were locked in already.

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        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125471428/super-rugby-review-chiefs-can-be-proud-of-progress-amid-coaching-merrygoround

        In terms of the playing group, expect a largely unchanged roster to be reassembled. Two months ago Collins told Stuff around 30 of their 38-man squad for 2022 had already been locked in.

        Old article but I'm just googling stuff for a smidge of info. Didn't realise this many were locked in already.

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        @yeetyaah It's hard to know who is contracted, and who isn't as not all of that info is released. Obviously, L Boshier and TTT have to be replaced, maybe Harris too. There are a few other players whose contract is up for renewal (Brown, Karpik, McWhannell, Parker) and then the DMac question.

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          Only a 1 yr deal, so probably DMac's replacement.

          https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/josh-ioane-to-join-the-gallagher-chiefs-for-the-2022-season

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            I'm not overly excited but we do need a fill in for DMac and the existing options aren't that good.
            Given how quickly this was announced you have to wonder if he was approached or was looking.
            Obviously burned his bridges with Tony Brown big time and knew it.
            Here's hoping that was a kick in the arse and he will use this season to showcase himself for further work.

            On another note have we found away for Gatland to get lost in the MIQ system?

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              Ioane's signing means that Trask will continue to be used more as a fullback than a 1st 5. That's where he has played most often in recent seasons for BOP and the Maori. I'm in two minds about this because I would like to see ENS and Stevenson given a chance there. I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

              For Ioane, he will either sign for another team in 2023 (NZ franchise or MP) or head overseas.

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                Ioane's signing means that Trask will continue to be used more as a fullback than a 1st 5. That's where he has played most often in recent seasons for BOP and the Maori. I'm in two minds about this because I would like to see ENS and Stevenson given a chance there. I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

                For Ioane, he will either sign for another team in 2023 (NZ franchise or MP) or head overseas.

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                @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

                I thought in an earlier post or another thread it was determined he was signed for 2022...I really like the look of him though, hopefully Northland dont damage him!

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Ioane's signing means that Trask will continue to be used more as a fullback than a 1st 5. That's where he has played most often in recent seasons for BOP and the Maori. I'm in two minds about this because I would like to see ENS and Stevenson given a chance there. I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

                  For Ioane, he will either sign for another team in 2023 (NZ franchise or MP) or head overseas.

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                  @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                  Ioane's signing means that Trask will continue to be used more as a fullback than a 1st 5. That's where he has played most often in recent seasons for BOP and the Maori. I'm in two minds about this because I would like to see ENS and Stevenson given a chance there. I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

                  For Ioane, he will either sign for another team in 2023 (NZ franchise or MP) or head overseas.

                  Also insurance for when DMac's initial 12 months is up. He hasn't confirmed a return to the Chiefs (or even NZ).
                  It would be a surprise but maybe the stint overseas is also a way to break ties. Returning to a Gatland coached side may not be attractive to him but playing under Tony Brown in a covered stadium could be.

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                    @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                    I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

                    I thought in an earlier post or another thread it was determined he was signed for 2022...I really like the look of him though, hopefully Northland dont damage him!

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                    @taniwharugby said in Chiefs 2022:

                    @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                    I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

                    I thought in an earlier post or another thread it was determined he was signed for 2022...I really like the look of him though, hopefully Northland dont damage him!

                    I haven't read any info about the length of Reihana's contract, other than when the Chiefs 2021 squad was announced. @Stargazer might know.

                    I rate him too.

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                      i like it even if it comes with risk. it lets reihana to ease into 10 and lets trask develop at 15. gatland can sit in stands. what we need now is pick up a outstanding wing.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @taniwharugby said in Chiefs 2022:

                        @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                        I'm also not sure what this means for Rivez Reihana, and whether he has been re-signed.

                        I thought in an earlier post or another thread it was determined he was signed for 2022...I really like the look of him though, hopefully Northland dont damage him!

                        I haven't read any info about the length of Reihana's contract, other than when the Chiefs 2021 squad was announced. @Stargazer might know.

                        I rate him too.

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                        @bovidae Sorry, I've no idea about Reihana.

                        Interesting is that Tiaan Falcon only has one more year on his Toyota Verblitz contract. Not sure he'd want to get back to the Chiefs if Gatland is still the coach though, but he may be available again after next season.

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                          As I said last night, I'll gladly accept him. He was coming of age a couple of years ago and a change of environment might be good.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

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                            Only a 1 yr deal, so probably DMac's replacement.

                            https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/josh-ioane-to-join-the-gallagher-chiefs-for-the-2022-season

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                            @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                            Only a 1 yr deal, so probably DMac's replacement.

                            I am a bit disappointed by this. Where does that leave Reihana? Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year - and give Reihana some time along the way.

                            I certainly hope the Chiefs bring an improvement in Josh's discipline off the field. He has talent on it - but needs consistency - and I suspect improvements off the field can help. Bit of a risk by Chiefs though, especially when it is a line-breaking winger that they need most.

                            Is there word on the 3rd halfback? Is it Nock? Was hoping they might get Luke Campbell back if Hurricanes released him, or Cortez Ratima.

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                              @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                              Only a 1 yr deal, so probably DMac's replacement.

                              I am a bit disappointed by this. Where does that leave Reihana? Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year - and give Reihana some time along the way.

                              I certainly hope the Chiefs bring an improvement in Josh's discipline off the field. He has talent on it - but needs consistency - and I suspect improvements off the field can help. Bit of a risk by Chiefs though, especially when it is a line-breaking winger that they need most.

                              Is there word on the 3rd halfback? Is it Nock? Was hoping they might get Luke Campbell back if Hurricanes released him, or Cortez Ratima.

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                              @arhs

                              I would hope that Reihana will get some time this year off the bench, and as a one-year contract it shouldn’t be such as to push Reihana to leave. I do agree that we need some better wingers, but we still have Naholo on the books, right? If he can bring some form to the next level, we could be in much better shape than I thought we would be.

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                                @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                Only a 1 yr deal, so probably DMac's replacement.

                                I am a bit disappointed by this. Where does that leave Reihana? Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year - and give Reihana some time along the way.

                                I certainly hope the Chiefs bring an improvement in Josh's discipline off the field. He has talent on it - but needs consistency - and I suspect improvements off the field can help. Bit of a risk by Chiefs though, especially when it is a line-breaking winger that they need most.

                                Is there word on the 3rd halfback? Is it Nock? Was hoping they might get Luke Campbell back if Hurricanes released him, or Cortez Ratima.

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                                @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                                Is there word on the 3rd halfback? Is it Nock?

                                The Northlanders will have to answer this. But with Weber staying Nock would now be competing with Roe as his backup. His signing would have made sense to provide experience if Weber went overseas. Now, I'm not so sure. That said, having depth in such a vital position is important and we could sign Ratima to a WTG contract.

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                                  @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  Is there word on the 3rd halfback? Is it Nock?

                                  The Northlanders will have to answer this. But with Weber staying Nock would now be competing with Roe as his backup. His signing would have made sense to provide experience if Weber went overseas. Now, I'm not so sure. That said, having depth in such a vital position is important and we could sign Ratima to a WTG contract.

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                                  @bovidae AFAIK Nock as another year to run on his Blues contract.

                                  And while I understand Leon isnt a fan, I expect the Blues is where Nock would prefer to be, although who knows, the Blues my release him.

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                                    @bovidae AFAIK Nock as another year to run on his Blues contract.

                                    And while I understand Leon isnt a fan, I expect the Blues is where Nock would prefer to be, although who knows, the Blues my release him.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Chiefs 2022:

                                    @bovidae AFAIK Nock as another year to run on his Blues contract.

                                    Although that doesn't mean a lot nowadays as contracts are regularly cut short.

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                                      @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                      Only a 1 yr deal, so probably DMac's replacement.

                                      I am a bit disappointed by this. Where does that leave Reihana? Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year - and give Reihana some time along the way.

                                      I certainly hope the Chiefs bring an improvement in Josh's discipline off the field. He has talent on it - but needs consistency - and I suspect improvements off the field can help. Bit of a risk by Chiefs though, especially when it is a line-breaking winger that they need most.

                                      Is there word on the 3rd halfback? Is it Nock? Was hoping they might get Luke Campbell back if Hurricanes released him, or Cortez Ratima.

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                                      @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                                      Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year

                                      Orbyn Leger? The guy isn't a 12 at Super Rugby level let alone a 10. "only break in case of emergency" should apply.

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                                        @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year

                                        Orbyn Leger? The guy isn't a 12 at Super Rugby level let alone a 10. "only break in case of emergency" should apply.

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                                        @kiwimurph said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @arhs said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        Would have preferred local talent like Fletcher Smith or Orbyn Leger to cover the absence of DMac next year

                                        Orbyn Leger? The guy isn't a 12 at Super Rugby level let alone a 10. "only break in case of emergency" should apply.

                                        "only break in case of incompetent coaching and recruitment' c.f. the Canes

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                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126235444/chiefs-confirm-damian-mckenzies-departure-confident-in-josh-ioanes-character

                                          “Look, all I know is Damian’s not going to be with us, at the moment that’s all I can sort of comment on,” Collins told Stuff on Tuesday.

                                          Collins confirmed there were “a couple of spots” left to fill in the Chiefs’ 38-man squad for next year and that when the NPC resumed they were eagerly tracking several players from the provincial unions within the region.

                                          No mention of Reihana in the article.

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