The Trans Tasman Rugby War
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These are the new franchises:
Northland and North Harbour
Auckland
Counties and BOP
Waikato and Taranaki
Manawatu and Hawkes Bay
Wellington
Ta$man
Canterbury
Otago and Southland
Moana Pasifika@tim said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
These are the new franchises:
Northland and North Harbour
Auckland
Counties and BOP
Waikato and Taranaki
> Manawatu and Hawkes Bay
Wellington
Ta$man
Canterbury
Otago and Southland
Moana PasifikaYou'll be right behind this.
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@tim said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
These are the new franchises:
Northland and North Harbour
Auckland
Counties and BOP
Waikato and Taranaki
> Manawatu and Hawkes Bay
Wellington
Ta$man
Canterbury
Otago and Southland
Moana PasifikaYou'll be right behind this.
@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
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Given the chance, Aus would fuck over NZ without giving it a seconds thought. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Ultimately you have to do what's in your own interests. Japan is where we should be focussing all our efforts.
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Given the chance, Aus would fuck over NZ without giving it a seconds thought. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Ultimately you have to do what's in your own interests. Japan is where we should be focussing all our efforts.
@rancid-schnitzel said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
Given the chance, Aus would fuck over NZ without giving it a seconds thought. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Ultimately you have to do what's in your own interests. Japan is where we should be focussing all our efforts.
Agree. Oz have form in that regard
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@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
@taniwharugby said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
Well both teams are north of Auckland, they could call it something like … I dunno … North Auckland?
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@taniwharugby said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
Well both teams are north of Auckland, they could call it something like … I dunno … North Auckland?
@jc said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@taniwharugby said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
Well both teams are north of Auckland, they could call it something like … I dunno … North Auckland?
North of, not northern part of. So no.
The NotJAFA Taniwhas would be better
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@taniwharugby said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
Well both teams are north of Auckland, they could call it something like … I dunno … North Auckland?
@jc wont happen, so I'll stick with Northland Harbour, which would obviously be shortened to Northland!
BUt you might be onto something!
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The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
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The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I agree that we need each other. But we can't depend on them, they don't want to be a team player
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The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
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@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
@rancid-schnitzel said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
From the point of view of having a bigger product to sell to broadcasters, SA NZ and RA need each other
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@tim said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
These are the new franchises:
Northland and North Harbour
Auckland
Counties and BOP
Waikato and Taranaki
> Manawatu and Hawkes Bay
Wellington
Ta$man
Canterbury
Otago and Southland
Moana PasifikaYou'll be right behind this.
@gt12 said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@tim said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
These are the new franchises:
Northland and North Harbour
Auckland
Counties and BOP
Waikato and Taranaki
> Manawatu and Hawkes Bay
Wellington
Ta$man
Canterbury
Otago and Southland
Moana PasifikaYou'll be right behind this.
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@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
@rancid-schnitzel said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
i think the NPC would always tick along...but it would never make enough money on its own to compete with what the players could get overseas so we would see more and more drift away
a TT or pacific comp probably earns enough to at least keep a core of the top players in the region
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The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
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@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
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@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
@canefan said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
for their own good, do we actually need to take the NRL/NBL approach...and just invited aussie teams to join a new "domestic" comp, a couple fo breakaway teams and RA would probably fall into line with re focusing on a domestic comp
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@canefan said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
for their own good, do we actually need to take the NRL/NBL approach...and just invited aussie teams to join a new "domestic" comp, a couple fo breakaway teams and RA would probably fall into line with re focusing on a domestic comp
@kiwiwomble said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@canefan said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
for their own good, do we actually need to take the NRL/NBL approach...and just invited aussie teams to join a new "domestic" comp, a couple fo breakaway teams and RA would probably fall into line with re focusing on a domestic comp
They are too proud for that. Look how they rail about the idea of fewer aussie teams in a combined comp
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@kiwiwomble said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@canefan said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
for their own good, do we actually need to take the NRL/NBL approach...and just invited aussie teams to join a new "domestic" comp, a couple fo breakaway teams and RA would probably fall into line with re focusing on a domestic comp
They are too proud for that. Look how they rail about the idea of fewer aussie teams in a combined comp
@canefan probably true but i wonder if that was more RA than say the Red/tahs or brumbies, team with actual history that might see themselves as being dragged down by the newer ones
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@canefan said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
for their own good, do we actually need to take the NRL/NBL approach...and just invited aussie teams to join a new "domestic" comp, a couple fo breakaway teams and RA would probably fall into line with re focusing on a domestic comp
