All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
There are already complaints that he is (we are) playing him too wide, and that he has to move in against the really scary teams.
I think it's great that has taken the Read tramline role, it suits him perfectly with his pace and offload game. Cane will serve us well up the middle and/or Paps and Ardie usually plays up the middle too, but we can always bring our hooker back to the middle of the park if we want a flanker on both edges.
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@stargazer
Havili played well but a lot of that 90 meters was the intercept.
Just for comparison, Akira's meters were coming off him swatting off tacklers.@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
Sonny Bill ( what an extraordinary pundit that guy is, probing questions hidden under the โbroโ persona ) asked the man himself if he was because heโd cut down on the late night Maccas runs.
The bellowing laugh in response indicates to me this is probably true.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
Sonny Bill ( what an extraordinary pundit that guy is, probing questions hidden under the โbroโ persona ) asked the man himself if he was because heโd cut down on the late night Maccas runs.
The bellowing laugh in response indicates to me this is probably true.
@mn5 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
Sonny Bill ( what an extraordinary pundit that guy is, probing questions hidden under the โbroโ persona ) asked the man himself if he was because heโd cut down on the late night Maccas runs.
The bellowing laugh in response indicates to me this is probably true.
Or it's an inside joke. There's no doubt following his non-selection in the All Blacks that he went into a dark place mentally and his fitness suffered. Thankfully he comes through that, been rewarded with selection under a new coach and we're seeing the benefits.
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Foster
โHeโs probably used to being told what he does wrong, and I think heโs really responding to focusing on what he can do right โ and weโre seeing a bounce in his step with that approach.
โHeโs grown up nicely, and now heโs starting to put a couple of games together I believe his confidence will keep growing and growing.โ
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@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I think because in this scenario, one was faultless and the other not.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I think because in this scenario, one was faultless and the other not.
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@hooroo Neither were completely faultless. Just celebrate what they did right, which was a lot.
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hooroo Neither were completely faultless. Just celebrate what they did right, which was a lot.
Nah, I'm good thanks. I prefer to celebrate a great game over just an honest game with faults
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@hooroo Neither were completely faultless. Just celebrate what they did right, which was a lot.
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hooroo Neither were completely faultless. Just celebrate what they did right, which was a lot.
Iโm not sure any AB has had a faultless game since DC vs the Lions in 05.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hooroo Neither were completely faultless. Just celebrate what they did right, which was a lot.
Nah, I'm good thanks. I prefer to celebrate a great game over just an honest game with faults
@hooroo said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hooroo Neither were completely faultless. Just celebrate what they did right, which was a lot.
Nah, I'm good thanks. I prefer to celebrate a great game over just an honest game with faults
Come on mate, give Akira a bit more credit than that. Why all the bagging?
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@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

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@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

You guessed wrong, as per usual when commenting on a post of mine. If that's your motivation for posting things, that's on you. I don't have that mindset. The Akira and Havili posts are the only ones with stats I've seen. I like it if they highlight the positives. If I find another one with good stats, I'll post that too.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

You guessed wrong, as per usual when commenting on a post of mine. If that's your motivation for posting things, that's on you. I don't have that mindset. The Akira and Havili posts are the only ones with stats I've seen. I like it if they highlight the positives. If I find another one with good stats, I'll post that too.
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

You guessed wrong, as per usual when commenting on a post of mine. If that's your motivation for posting things, that's on you. I don't have that mindset. The Akira and Havili posts are the only ones with stats I've seen. I like it if they highlight the positives. If I find another one with good stats, I'll post that too.

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@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

You guessed wrong, as per usual when commenting on a post of mine. If that's your motivation for posting things, that's on you. I don't have that mindset. The Akira and Havili posts are the only ones with stats I've seen. I like it if they highlight the positives. If I find another one with good stats, I'll post that too.
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

You guessed wrong, as per usual when commenting on a post of mine. If that's your motivation for posting things, that's on you. I don't have that mindset. The Akira and Havili posts are the only ones with stats I've seen. I like it if they highlight the positives. If I find another one with good stats, I'll post that too.
Dude, you're a Havili fluffer from way back.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@stargazer said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank What I don't understand is why posters try to diminish someone's stats/results by comparing him with another player, who also played well. Both can be good or even great. Just be happy that there seems to be a solution for previous "gaps" in the backrow and midfield.
I dunno, I guess your post putting up Havilli's stats looked a little bit of a petty response to Akira's graphic above. Frank was just pointing out that a good 70m of those 90m for DH were from an intercept.
I'm sure that was the last thing on your mind though, right

You guessed wrong, as per usual when commenting on a post of mine. If that's your motivation for posting things, that's on you. I don't have that mindset. The Akira and Havili posts are the only ones with stats I've seen. I like it if they highlight the positives. If I find another one with good stats, I'll post that too.
Dude, you're a Havili fluffer from way back.
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Stuff.co.nz gave Akira a 10 out of 10.
You canโt beat that so turns out he is perfect after all
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Stuff.co.nz gave Akira a 10 out of 10.
You canโt beat that so turns out he is perfect after all
@mn5 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Stuff.co.nz gave
Stuff's random number generator... seriously, their assessments are consistently dreadful
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@mn5 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Stuff.co.nz gave
Stuff's random number generator... seriously, their assessments are consistently dreadful
@nzzp said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mn5 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Stuff.co.nz gave
Stuff's random number generator... seriously, their assessments are consistently dreadful
Good point. Someone should create a thread for us to have a whinge about them.
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@machpants said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
and now heโs starting to put a couple of games together
Now this a disingenuous comment from Fozzie ... if you and your former co-fatty in charge had actually selected him earlier he would have had a chance to put a couple of games together.
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Perhaps he didnt get 10 out of 10 because he missed a couple of tackles?, rugby pass has a couple more stats. In the context of the game, he was on another level to most
https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1434689645384806400?s=20
Interestingly I hear Scott Barrett our top tackler???