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    taniwharugby
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    #127

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="578324" data-time="1462776200">
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    <p>No need to choose, we will have both :)</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>Its the Crusader way ;)</p>

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      #128

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="578324" data-time="1462776200"><p>No need to choose, we will have both :)</p></blockquote>
      <br>
      Well we are rebuilding...

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      • KiwiMurphK Offline
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        #129

        <p>U20s squad for World Champs named.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship</a></p>
        <p> </p>
        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
        <p> </p>
        <p> </p>
        <strong><u>FORWARDS </u></strong><br><strong>Prop</strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Ayden Johnstone Waikato </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Shaun Stodart Otago </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Sean Paranihi Canterbury </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Alex Fidow Wellington </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Sosefo Kautai Waikato</span><br><br><strong>Hooker </strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Leni Apisai, captain Wellington/Hurricanes </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Asafo Aumua Wellington</span><br><br><strong>Lock</strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Quinten Strange Ta$man </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Hamish Dalzell Canterbury</span><br><br><strong>Lock /Loose Forward</strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Isaia Walker-Leawere Wellington </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Fin Hoeata Taranaki</span><br><br><strong>Loose Forward</strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Mitchell Jacobson Waikato </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Luke Jacobson Waikato </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Dalton Papali’i Auckland </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Marino Mikaele Tu'u Hawke’s Bay</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Hapakuki Moala-Liava'a North Harbour</span><br><br><strong><u>BACKS</u></strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Halfback </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Jonathan Taumateine Counties Manukau</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Sam Nock Northland/Blues</span><br><br><strong>First five-eighth</strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Stephen Perofeta Taranaki </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">TJ Va’a Wellington/Hurricanes</span><br><br><strong>Midfield</strong><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);"> </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Orbyn Leger Counties Manukau</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Jordie Barrett Canterbury </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Patelesio Tomkinson Otago/Highlanders</span><br><br><strong>Midfield/wing</strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Jonah Lowe Hawke’s Bay</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Malo Tuitama Wellington</span><br><br><strong>Outside back</strong><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Caleb Makene Canterbury </span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Shaun Stevenson Waikato/Chiefs</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">Jordan Trainor Waikato/Blues</span></blockquote>

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          bobily
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          <p>No Emerson is a bit surprising. Is he injured?</p>

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            Frye
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            #131

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bobily" data-cid="578446" data-time="1462833795"><p>
            No Emerson is a bit surprising. Is he injured?</p></blockquote>
            No, not that I've read. Either a bad call or some amazing outside back talent available.<br><br>
            I see Robertson has said there is a good balance because there is 9 guys who'll be available next year, thus providing "youth and exuberance". That's just great Scott, I'm sure the exuberance a 19 year old brings to a side is just so much more than what a 20 year old does.<br><br><img src="http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.png" alt="nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.">

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            • Canes4lifeC Online
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              #132

              <p>Wow no Emerson. Umaga Jensen is out inured and it hasnt been mentioned so maybe Emerson picked up something in that first game aswell.</p>

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                #133

                <p>Really disappointed for Emerson. He was on the bench for the second game and came on quite late (making immediate impact). He was outstanding it the first game. I really can't believe that he has not been named, especially because Tuitama was terrible in that second game and also Caleb Makene wasn't that great (despite his try).</p>

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                  #134

                  <p>Crazy considering Emerson's first game dominance. He would have provided us with much needed pace as well. I guess that just shows the depth coming through age grade rugby. Quality players will always miss out. </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Also by the sounds of Scott Robertson in the interview he sees Va'a as the first choice first five over Perofeta. </p>

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                    #135

                    <p>Id say the top team from the squad selected would look something like this:</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>1. Ayden Johnstone (Waikato)</p>
                    <p>2. Leni Apisai (Wellington)</p>
                    <p>3. Alex Fidow (Wellington)</p>
                    <p>4. Hamish Dalzell (Canterbury)</p>
                    <p>5. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)</p>
                    <p>6. Luke Jacobson (Waikato)</p>
                    <p>7. Mitchel Jacobson (Waikato)</p>
                    <p>8. Marino Mikaele Tu'u (Hawkes Bay)</p>
                    <p>9. Sam Nock (Northland)</p>
                    <p>10. TJ Va'a (Wellington)</p>
                    <p>11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)</p>
                    <p>12. Scott Barrett (Canterbury)</p>
                    <p>13. Sio Tomkinson (Otago)</p>
                    <p>14. Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)</p>
                    <p>15. Jordan Trainor (Waikato)</p>

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                      #136

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Canes4life" data-cid="578483" data-time="1462841987">
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                      <p>Id say the top team from the squad selected would look something like this:</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>10. TJ Va'a (Wellington)</p>
                      <p>11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)</p>
                      <p><strong>12. Scott Barrett (Canterbury)</strong></p>
                      <p>13. Sio Tomkinson (Otago)</p>
                      <p>14. Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)</p>
                      <p>15. Jordan Trainor (Waikato)</p>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....</p>

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                      • DiceD Offline
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                        Dice
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                        #137

                        <p>I thought Taumateine looked better than Nock in the 2nd game. It'll be close between the two for the starting job.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Fidow might be best used off the bench. He looked horrible in the last game as a starter.</p>

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="578485" data-time="1462842680">
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                          <p>I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....</p>
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                          <p> </p>
                          <p>At least, he didn't put Karl Lowe on the left wing ...</p>

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                            bobily
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                            #139

                            <p>Perofeta has also played a bit of fullback, so if we move Trainor to the left wing, we might be able to fit him in too. This would match what has been done in previous seasons with Hunt, McKenzie, Barrett etc. been used there previously.</p>

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                              #140

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="578485" data-time="1462842680">
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                              <p>I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....</p>
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                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Haha my bad. Jordie Barrett would probably suit second five better.</p>

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                                leytonandamanda
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                                No mason Emerson is a huge mistake! Best player in 1st test against aus yet can't make the squad. <br><br><br>
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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  <p>What's the verdict on Perofeta? I know he played Heartland Rugby last year and is set to play Mitre 10 Cup for Naki this year - Blues are constantly on the hunt for a new 10 - does he look to have a higher ceiling than Ihaia West? </p>

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                                    bobily
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                                    <p>He looks pretty classy, but at this level it doesn't necessarily mean he will kick on (Bleyendaal carved up at this level, but apparently had issues with confidence and never kicked on. Kirkpatrick too had issues). I'd say he has the potential to be better, though.</p>

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                                      #144

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="leytonandamanda" data-cid="578505" data-time="1462849262">
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                                      <p>No mason Emerson is a huge mistake! Best player in 1st test against aus yet can't make the squad.<br><br><br>
                                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</p>
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                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Scott Robertson placed a huge emphasis on versatility when talking about the backline selections. Perhaps Emerson was considered only a contender for the wing spot, and so was left out for this reason? Given he looks to be the best winger, I think it is a poor excuse, but I don't really rate Scott Robertson, and it wouldn't surprise me if he had some bizarre reason.</p>

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                                        #145

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bobily" data-cid="578508" data-time="1462849433">
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                                        <p>He looks pretty classy, but at this level it doesn't necessarily mean he will kick on (Bleyendaal carved up at this level, but apparently had issues with confidence and never kicked on. Kirkpatrick too had issues). I'd say he has the potential to be better, though.</p>
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                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Bleyendaal had more issues than just confidence</p>

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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="578514" data-time="1462849978">
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                                          <p>Bleyendaal had more issues than just confidence</p>
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                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>So did Cruden, but he worked on those. Bleyendaal definitely had talent, and could have been very good, too.</p>

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