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All Blacks vs Pumas II

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    1 Joe Moody (51)
    2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5)
    3 Tyrel Lomax (9)
    4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38)
    5 Tupou Vaa’i (6)
    6 Ethan Blackadder (4)
    7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain
    8 Hoskins Sotutu (6)
    9 TJ Perenara (72)
    10 Damian McKenzie (34)
    11 George Bridge (14)
    12 Quinn Tupaea (2)
    13 Rieko Ioane (41)
    14 Will Jordan (7)
    15 Jordie Barrett (29)
    16 Codie Taylor (61)
    17 George Bower (6)
    18 Ofa Tuungafasi (39)
    19 Scott Barrett (45)
    20 Luke Jacobson (8)
    21 Finlay Christie (2)
    22 Beauden Barrett (95)
    23 Braydon Ennor (1)

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    #69

    @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    1 Joe Moody (51)
    2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5)
    3 Tyrel Lomax (9)
    4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38)
    5 Tupou Vaa’i (6)
    6 Ethan Blackadder (4)
    7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain
    8 Hoskins Sotutu (6)
    9 TJ Perenara (72)
    10 Damian McKenzie (34)
    11 George Bridge (14)
    12 Quinn Tupaea (2)
    13 Rieko Ioane (41)
    14 Will Jordan (7)
    15 Jordie Barrett (29)
    16 Codie Taylor (61)
    17 George Bower (6)
    18 Ofa Tuungafasi (39)
    19 Scott Barrett (45)
    20 Luke Jacobson (8)
    21 Finlay Christie (2)
    22 Beauden Barrett (95)
    23 Braydon Ennor (1)

    Clearly no one believes Argentina are going to improve in a week. That's a fucking shit team.

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    • F Frye

      @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      de Groot (if fit) won't get a game until the USA now.

      Patrick needs to step up as the senior lock. a test player

      FIFY

      When was the last time he got game time? It's incredibly tough to come in cold.

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      Crucial
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      #70

      @frye said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      de Groot (if fit) won't get a game until the USA now.

      Patrick needs to step up as the senior lock. a test player

      FIFY

      When was the last time he got game time? It's incredibly tough to come in cold.

      True. Just has a history of being average at this level IMO. For such a big unit he makes little impact. I will concede that every now and then he has a stormer but hasn't been able to put together consistent performances through regular play.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        1 Joe Moody (51)
        2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5)
        3 Tyrel Lomax (9)
        4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38)
        5 Tupou Vaa’i (6)
        6 Ethan Blackadder (4)
        7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain
        8 Hoskins Sotutu (6)
        9 TJ Perenara (72)
        10 Damian McKenzie (34)
        11 George Bridge (14)
        12 Quinn Tupaea (2)
        13 Rieko Ioane (41)
        14 Will Jordan (7)
        15 Jordie Barrett (29)
        16 Codie Taylor (61)
        17 George Bower (6)
        18 Ofa Tuungafasi (39)
        19 Scott Barrett (45)
        20 Luke Jacobson (8)
        21 Finlay Christie (2)
        22 Beauden Barrett (95)
        23 Braydon Ennor (1)

        Clearly no one believes Argentina are going to improve in a week. That's a fucking shit team.

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        Crucial
        wrote on last edited by
        #71

        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        1 Joe Moody (51)
        2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5)
        3 Tyrel Lomax (9)
        4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38)
        5 Tupou Vaa’i (6)
        6 Ethan Blackadder (4)
        7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain
        8 Hoskins Sotutu (6)
        9 TJ Perenara (72)
        10 Damian McKenzie (34)
        11 George Bridge (14)
        12 Quinn Tupaea (2)
        13 Rieko Ioane (41)
        14 Will Jordan (7)
        15 Jordie Barrett (29)
        16 Codie Taylor (61)
        17 George Bower (6)
        18 Ofa Tuungafasi (39)
        19 Scott Barrett (45)
        20 Luke Jacobson (8)
        21 Finlay Christie (2)
        22 Beauden Barrett (95)
        23 Braydon Ennor (1)

        Clearly no one believes Argentina are going to improve in a week. That's a fucking shit team.

        Has to be done with the schedule and squad we have alongside the inability to get replacements for minor injuries.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          Message to DMac: pass to the right.

          Eh?

          Jordan vs Bridge at the end of the backline.

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          Crucial
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          #72

          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          @bovidae said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          Message to DMac: pass to the right.

          Eh?

          Jordan vs Bridge at the end of the backline.

          See what you mean.

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            Kiwiwomble
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            dont think i expect that many changes, individually fine but im expecting some rust, game could be close

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            • chimoausC chimoaus

              @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @hooroo necessary though.
              They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.

              Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.

              257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #74

              @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @hooroo necessary though.
              They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.

              Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.

              257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.

              Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.

              Reserves
              16. Keven Mealamu (131)
              17. Ben Franks (46)
              18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
              19. Victor Vito (32)
              20. Sam Cane (30)
              21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
              22. Beauden Barrett (35)
              23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)

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              • M Machpants

                @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @hooroo necessary though.
                They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.

                Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.

                257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.

                Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.

                Reserves
                16. Keven Mealamu (131)
                17. Ben Franks (46)
                18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
                19. Victor Vito (32)
                20. Sam Cane (30)
                21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
                22. Beauden Barrett (35)
                23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)

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                chimoaus
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                #75

                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @hooroo necessary though.
                They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.

                Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.

                257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.

                Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.

                Reserves
                16. Keven Mealamu (131)
                17. Ben Franks (46)
                18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
                19. Victor Vito (32)
                20. Sam Cane (30)
                21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
                22. Beauden Barrett (35)
                23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)

                Thats some bench.

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                • chimoausC chimoaus

                  @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @hooroo necessary though.
                  They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.

                  Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.

                  257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.

                  Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.

                  Reserves
                  16. Keven Mealamu (131)
                  17. Ben Franks (46)
                  18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
                  19. Victor Vito (32)
                  20. Sam Cane (30)
                  21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
                  22. Beauden Barrett (35)
                  23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)

                  Thats some bench.

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                  Machpants
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #76

                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @hooroo necessary though.
                  They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.

                  Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.

                  257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.

                  Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.

                  Reserves
                  16. Keven Mealamu (131)
                  17. Ben Franks (46)
                  18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
                  19. Victor Vito (32)
                  20. Sam Cane (30)
                  21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
                  22. Beauden Barrett (35)
                  23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)

                  Thats some bench.

                  Some starting XV, too!

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                    #77

                    I think Lomax has overtaken Ta'avao in the pecking order. Good.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      I think Lomax has overtaken Ta'avao in the pecking order. Good.

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                      Frye
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                      #78

                      @kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      I think Lomax has overtaken Ta'avao in the pecking order. Good.

                      He definitely has a higher ceiling than Angus.

                      Let's hope Lomax remembers his last start well!

                      While there might be some flutters over that forward pack, I think as a player when you look around and don't see a lot of experienced guys you feel the responsibility on yourself a lot more and as a result you can often find something extra you might not have found if you were surrounded by vets.

                      These tests remind me of that 2005 grand slam tour!

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        I think Lomax has overtaken Ta'avao in the pecking order. Good.

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                        Bovidae
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                        @kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                        I think Lomax has overtaken Ta'avao in the pecking order. Good.

                        I don't see either playing in the next 2 games.

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                          #80

                          That looks like the worst tight 5 I have seen us put out in a long time.

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                              Chris B.
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                              #82

                              Jeepers - there's 11 guys in the 23 who have played in less than 10 tests. And a few others who haven't played many games in the position they've been picked in.

                              TAB has Argentina at $12!!!

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                                @daffy-jaffy

                                Aumua has a bruised calf, Akira Ioane and Papalii both have "knocks".

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                                • D Darren

                                  That looks like the worst tight 5 I have seen us put out in a long time.

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                                  @darren said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                  That looks like the worst tight 5 I have seen us put out in a long time.

                                  I really like the front row.

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                                    2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5) - 1st start

                                    3 Tyrel Lomax (9) - 2nd start

                                    5 Tupou Vaa’i (6) - 2nd start

                                    6 Ethan Blackadder (4) - 2nd start

                                    8 Hoskins Sotutu (6) - 3rd start

                                    10 Damian McKenzie (34) - 2nd start at 1st 5

                                    12 Quinn Tupaea (2) - 2nd start

                                    14 Will Jordan (7) - 5th start

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                                      This seems like a make or break test for Hoskins as he appears to have slipped down the pecking order. He’s at best the 3rd 8.

                                      Hopefully he can overcome his second season blues.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        This seems like a make or break test for Hoskins as he appears to have slipped down the pecking order. He’s at best the 3rd 8.

                                        Hopefully he can overcome his second season blues.

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                                        @nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.

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                                        • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                                          @nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.

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                                          @themojoman said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                          @nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.

                                          Welcome back bro.

                                          Big fan of Sotutu, hope he plays well.

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