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NZ v Australia Test #1

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    tubbyj
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    #352

    <p>yeah Australia have had the luck but they have also shown great application and just look like they want to win this more.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>It seems to me they are all just about the win whereas NZ like the WC final might be a bit about the occassion (playing Oz and McCullum's last hurrah)</p>

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      No Quarter
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      #353

      <p>Lyon is bloody effective isn't he. Makes the most of his ability. He's exactly what we wish Craig was - very accurate and if the batsmen makes any mistake he is business.</p>

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        <p>Most of our batting success has been built around Williamson, Taylor, McCullum and Watling. Taylor is injured, McCullum has fallen off a cliff, Williamson and Watling it appears were just having purple patches that you often see in batsmans careers before falling back to the pack.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Anyway team for next test. Drop Anderson and Craig. Since Williamson isn't doing much batting he can do the spin bowling. You would be better with a specialist bowler and a specialist batter than Anderson.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>1. Guptill</p>
        <p>2. Latham</p>
        <p>3. Williamson</p>
        <p>4. Taylor</p>
        <p>5. McCullum</p>
        <p>6. Nichols</p>
        <p>7. Watling</p>
        <p>8. Bracewell</p>
        <p>9. Henry</p>
        <p>10. Southee</p>
        <p>11. Boult</p>

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          No Quarter
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          #355

          <p>I disagree that Williamson was just going through a purple patch and will now drop back into the pack. He is pure class. We can't expect him to average 90+ every year, but he will end up with a career average of 50+.</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>I agree that we need a better batsmen then Anderson at 6 though. Hopefully Santner can step up in that role in the future, which would allow us to take 4 seamers.</p>

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            Donsteppa
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            #356

            <p>I'm unbelievably sour.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>But not that sour that I'd throw Williamson back to the pack.</p>

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              MN5
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              #357

              <p>Speaking of Craig he must be pissed off that Bracewell is in ahead of him.</p>

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                mariner4life
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                <p>This is all so very fucking disappointing isn't it?</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>This is even worse than Brisbane. We're getting spanked like it's the early 2000s again. This wasn't supposed to happen. </p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Shit batting brought about by poor technique and poor application. And a bowling attack taken apart. This is as one-sided as test cricket gets. </p>
                <p> </p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Fuck cricket. </p>

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                • MN5M Online
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                  <p>Yeah strange post tubby, bit early to hang KW out to dry I think. For starters he still has two innings left this summer although I agree he could look at doing a bit more bowling. It's not like a bowler who has been going for a couple of days says "naaa mate I'm too fucked to bat"</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>I'd happily have him as our spinner when I have a look at the alternatives.</p>

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                    <p>

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                      KiwiPie
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                      #361

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="tubbyj" data-cid="558767" data-time="1455490035">
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                      <p>Williamson and Watling it appears were just having purple patches that you often see in batsmans careers before falling back to the pack.</p>
                      <p> </p>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <p>Tough crowd!</p>

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                        #362

                        <p>And for a bowler that nobody seems to rate, Lyon now has almost 200 wickets at around 32. He isn't Warne but he is a very tidy player.</p>

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="558773" data-time="1455490922">
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                          <p>

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                          <p> </p>
                          <p>I bet you've been hovering by your PC all match to post that.</p>

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                            tubbyj
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                            #364

                            <p>Jeez you can't do anything but praise Sir Kane.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Sure he is our best batsman but he hasn't batted well in two tests in a row VS Aus now. Not hanging him out to dry just saying some of the praise was reaching Richie McCaw or Richard Hadlee level at 25 when it is still early days.</p>

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                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="558758" data-time="1455487716">
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                              <p>Has anything at all gone our way this test?</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>BCs will get an extra days prep for the 2nd test!</p>

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                                KiwiPie
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                                #366

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="tubbyj" data-cid="558780" data-time="1455491519">
                                <div>
                                <p>Jeez you can't do anything but praise Sir Kane.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Sure he is our best batsman but he hasn't batted well in two tests in a row VS Aus now. Not hanging him out to dry just saying some of the praise was reaching Richie McCaw or Richard Hadlee level at 25 when it is still early days.</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p>The criticism was valid but he had 2 outstanding years culminating in gaining number 1 in the world status - if you want to call that a purple patch, you really need to wait for a longer slump ....</p>

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                                  No Quarter
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                                  #367

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="tubbyj" data-cid="558780" data-time="1455491519">
                                  <div>
                                  <p>Jeez you can't do anything but praise Sir Kane.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Sure he is our best batsman but he hasn't batted well in two tests in a row VS Aus now. Not hanging him out to dry just saying some of the praise was reaching Richie McCaw or Richard Hadlee level at 25 when it is still early days.</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Tests: 85 innings, 13 hundreds at an average of 49.93.</p>
                                  <p>ODIs: 87 innings, 7 hundreds at an average of 47.00</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>We are well beyond "he's an average player that just had a purple patch" and into "he is one of NZs best ever batsmen.</p>

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                                    SammyC
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                                    #368

                                    <p>I can understand where Tubby is coming from.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>To win this series, we needed Kane to step up and score big. And he hasn't.</p>

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                                    • MN5M Online
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                                      MN5
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                                      #369

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="tubbyj" data-cid="558780" data-time="1455491519">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>Jeez you can't do anything but praise Sir Kane.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Sure he is our best batsman but he hasn't batted well in two tests in a row VS Aus now. Not hanging him out to dry just saying some of the praise was reaching Richie McCaw or Richard Hadlee level at 25 when it is still early days.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>I think it's more of a case of what he will become, he's not in the league of either Richard, and perhaps never will be, but will still break all the New Zealand batting records.</p>

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                                        taniwharugby
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                                        #370

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="558789" data-time="1455492316">
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                                        <p>I can understand where Tubby is coming from.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>To win this series, we needed Kane to step up and score big. And he hasn't.</p>
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                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>TBF, we needed more than just Kane to step up...</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Also need luck, and when the chips are down, luck isn't usually on your side.</p>

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                                          SammyC
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                                          <p>He's the only one in our top order whom I consider likely to score big against this attack.</p>

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