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NZ v Australia Test #1

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  • MN5M Offline
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    MN5
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    #398

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="558834" data-time="1455500334">
    <div>
    <p>So among the BC's get a pass mark?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Openers delivered down to expectation.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Nicholls was OK on debut I guess</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Craig batted well but leaked 150 runs.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Southee was Southee</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Bracewell was the medium pace version of Craig but slightly better with ball and slightly worse with bat</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Corey isn't a 6 on this form.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Boult's still broken</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Kane's form has dipped just when we need him most.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>BJ ditto</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Baz - looks like the right time to retire from the longer version</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I think that sums things up rather well. Really hard to argue with any of that but what's the go from here ?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Swings and roundabouts suggest at least one ( hopefully more ) of Williamson, McCullum and Watling get a big score next dig. Cricket is just like that. Bracewell didn't cover himself in glory so surely his place is under threat from Henry or Wagner. Earlier I tried to point out Taylor not being there wasn't an issue but it was as SURELY he would have stood up when the aforementioned three didn't. Anderson got a fighting 38 but also a shitty duck so not really what you want but he was hardly one of the worst especially when his bowling was taken into account. I think he is safe.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Realistically can we expect any changes apart from maybe Bracewell ? ( Given Santner and Taylor won't be ready )</p>

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    • KiwiPieK Offline
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      KiwiPie
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      #399

      <p>The Australians seem to learn when a batsman takes them for a big score - and learn how to restrict their scoring by not dishing up too many buffet balls is a good start and then start probing their weaknesses.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>In the last few months</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Khawaja v NZ 174, 9*, 121, 140 = Average of 148</p>
      <p>Voges v NZ 83, 1*, 41, 119, 13, 28, 239 = Average of  87.33</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>NZ bowlers need to start learning fast.</p>

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      • MN5M Offline
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        MN5
        wrote on last edited by
        #400

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiPie" data-cid="558839" data-time="1455508202">
        <div>
        <p>The Australians seem to learn when a batsman takes them for a big score - and learn how to restrict their scoring by not dishing up too many buffet balls is a good start and then start probing their weaknesses.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>In the last few months</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Khawaja v NZ 174, 9*, 121, 140 = Average of 148</p>
        <p>Voges v NZ 83, 1*, 41, 119, 13, 28, 239 = Average of  87.33</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>NZ bowlers need to start learning fast.</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiPie" data-cid="558839" data-time="1455508202">
        <div>
        <p>The Australians seem to learn when a batsman takes them for a big score - and learn how to restrict their scoring by not dishing up too many buffet balls is a good start and then start probing their weaknesses.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>In the last few months</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Khawaja v NZ 174, 9*, 121, 140 = Average of 148</p>
        <p>Voges v NZ 83, 1*, 41, 119, 13, 28, 239 = Average of  87.33</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>NZ bowlers need to start learning fast.</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Ah, so Voges has underachieved against us. That's encouraging.</p>

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        • dogmeatD Offline
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          dogmeat
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          #401

          <p>Subtle message by MN5 to NZ bowlers</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Repetition repetition</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Subtle message by MN5 to NZ bowlers</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Repetition repetition</p>

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          • KiwiPieK Offline
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            KiwiPie
            wrote on last edited by
            #402

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="558841" data-time="1455508908">
            <div>
            <p>Ah, so Voges has underachieved against us. That's encouraging.</p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p>Actually I made an error - that first 83 was not out - he's 104.80</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>But he averages 542 v the West Indies ...</p>

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            • NTAN Offline
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              NTA
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              #403

              <p>It was noticeable, having to follow on cricinfo, that the BC overs had a lot of bold in them e.g. bad balls disposed of for 4. The first innings, after an initial flurry, guys like Hazlewood got into a rhythm and tightened up. Pressure = wickets.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Easier as a batsman to come out and do your thing when you're looking to beat a sub-200 total to get a first innings lead.</p>

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              • SiamS Offline
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                Siam
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                #404

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="558844" data-time="1455509766">
                <div>
                <p>It was noticeable, having to follow on cricinfo, that the BC overs had a lot of bold in them e.g. bad balls disposed of for 4. The first innings, after an initial flurry, guys like Hazlewood got into a rhythm and tightened up. Pressure = wickets.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Easier as a batsman to come out and do your thing when you're looking to beat a sub-200 total to get a first innings lead.</p>
                </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>All true</p>
                <p>luckily the blueprint for improvement was clearly demonstrated in the same game</p>

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                • NTAN Offline
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                  NTA
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                  #405

                  <p>Yep. 2nd innings definitely better from the BCs, even thought the pitch was offering slightly less.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>The top order will have a good, hard look at themselves, and adjust their technique if they're serious. Guppy especially - all well and good to punish the bad ball, but then bloody well rein yourself in as you know there are more good balls to come.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Next question: will the game still happen in ChCh, recent earthquakes considered?</p>

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                  • nzzpN Offline
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                    nzzp
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #406

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="558846" data-time="1455511391">
                    <div>
                    <p>Next question: will the game still happen in ChCh, recent earthquakes considered?</p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Yes.  They don't seem to have any major effects from the earthquakes ... certainly nothing near the oval.</p>

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                    • GodderG Offline
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                      Godder
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                      #407

                      The quakes' epicentres are east of the city - central city, including Hagley Park and Oval is fine.

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                      • NTAN Offline
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                        NTA
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #408

                        <p>Cool. When we were there a year or so ago, they explained where the existing troublezones are to the east and that the west was safer.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Nice oval that one, too. Got a look at it while out for a walk.</p>

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                        • SammyCS Offline
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                          SammyC
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #409

                          Earthquake was very minor compared to previous ones. No doubt the cricket is going ahead.<br><br>
                          I have tickets for all 5 days. My major concern is that the test will finish inside 4 days and I'll have to go back to work a day early.

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                            taniwharugby
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                            #410

                            <p>as a groundsman, why would you prepare a picth that is supposedly so hard to bat on for the 1st few hours of play that then pretty much flattens out and offers f-all, which then makes the winning or losing of the coin toss actually quite important.</p>

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                            • NTAN Offline
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                              NTA
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #411

                              <p>As a groundsman, why the hell would you prepare that pitch when you KNOW your home captain is incapable of winning the toss?</p>

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                                #412

                                Pretty fecking disappointing after all the pre match build up/hype/expectation (is this a Warriors thread?).<br><br>
                                I don't think there will be any major changes, it's a pretty settled team who have done well over the last 18 months, so they'll get an opportunity to redeem themselves.<br><br>
                                I agree with the call to give Henry a run. Bracewell & Wagner have had their chances with mixed success, so I think the time is right (while he's in good form) to bring Henry in and see what he can do.<br><br>
                                IMO Corey is safe for now as there are no fit alternatives.<br><br>
                                Kane will be furious with himself, so I'm sure he'll be extra motivated to do well in Chch.<br><br>
                                BMac surely can't go out with a whimper...... can he????<br><br>
                                And bloody BJ is waaaaaaay overdue.

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                                  Frye
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                                  #413

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="558880" data-time="1455528585">
                                  <div>
                                  <p>
                                  BMac surely can't go out with a whimper...... can he????<br>
                                   </p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Oh he is more than capable.</p>

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                                  • MN5M Offline
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                                    MN5
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                                    #414

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="558880" data-time="1455528585">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>Pretty fecking disappointing after all the pre match build up/hype/expectation (is this a Warriors thread?).<br><br>
                                    I don't think there will be any major changes, it's a pretty settled team who have done well over the last 18 months, so they'll get an opportunity to redeem themselves.<br><br>
                                    I agree with the call to give Henry a run. Bracewell & Wagner have had their chances with mixed success, so I think the time is right (while he's in good form) to bring Henry in and see what he can do.<br><br>
                                    IMO Corey is safe for now as there are no fit alternatives.<br><br>
                                    Kane will be furious with himself, so I'm sure he'll be extra motivated to do well in Chch.<br><br>
                                    BMac surely can't go out with a whimper...... can he????<br><br>
                                    And bloody <strong>BJ is waaaaaaay overdue.</strong></p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>Even though it was Valentines Day yesterday ? stink dude.......</p>

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                                      booboo
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                                      #415

                                      Taylot and Santner still out of 2nd test :(<br><br>
                                      So realistically only change is Henry or Wagner in for Braces. <br><br>
                                      Which makes sfa difference to our batting.

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                                        booboo
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                                        #416

                                        Btw i live Wags. But Braces ain't done much wrong.<br><br>
                                        Can't drop Herb coz allrounder. And who else bats?<br><br>
                                        Sodhi maybe? But our batting was ceap. Sodhi = bowler not batsman. So how do we fix batting ?

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                                          P.S. shiraz 🙂

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