NZ v Australia Test #1

Siam

Exciting innit?
 
For every thought of hope and expectation that Guppy will fire, Timmy will fire, Nicholls will join Kane as debutant centurions, Baz wins the toss, BJ bats for 4 hours, Craig takes an unexpected bag etc etc
 
is the dread that
 
Aus are against a wall, DDD has one of his blinders, Smith stops saying "disappointing" all the time, Ussie pulls finger, Siddle relishes the green etc etc
 
 
Bloody hard to pick because as long suffering BC supporters we literally can imagine every best and worse case scenario...and none are out of the realms of possibility.
 
Be a great game to be at and soak up the tension and potential

MN5

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I don't know if you have watery eyes from choking on Gayle-sized wood too often, but height is a handy attribute for a spinner in terms of extracting extra bounce from otherwise benign surfaces. 
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That's a surprisingly good dig from you Smudge, I usually expect that from M4L, TR, NTA or Virg. Does that explain why Suliman Benn is the greatest spinner who ever spun and normal sized guys like Murali, Warnie, Benaud, Little Mushy, Quadir, harbhajan, bedi etc were all quite shit ?

dogmeat

Aaaah It's all about height then. Explains the Don, Sachin, Ponting, Gavaskar etc ..... and Gayle too.

MN5

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Aaaah It's all about height then. Explains the Don, Sachin, Ponting, Gavaskar etc ..... and Gayle too.
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Hey didn't do Joel Garner or Curtley any harm......and "little masters" like Bradman, Lara, Tendulkar etc seemed to benefit as batsmen from being a bit lower to the ground....but to try and claim Mark Craig is good because he has "height" ( Smudge has obviously seen him in too many photos next to McCullum and Williamson ) is the biggest load of tenuous bullshit I've heard since Warnie was claiming his Mum gave him the fat loss pills.

Smudge

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t to try and claim Mark Craig is good because he has "height" ( Smudge has obviously seen him in too many photos next to McCullum and Williamson ) 
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You should direct your pissy-girl anger at Kiwipie, not me. I'm just giving the background as to why height can be an advantage for a spinner.

MN5

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You should direct your pissy-girl anger at Kiwipie, not me. I'm just giving the background as to why height can be an advantage for a spinner.
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There's no anger and the "background" and amazing insight you imply is non existent, I think it was the lame dig that may have irked me a bit.

reprobate

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Hardly lucky, he's been our senior bowler for a number of years now. A short term injury break isn't going to change that.
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boult is our senior quick and has been for a number of years now, while southee is someone who everyone says is our senior bowler, but doesn't really bowl like it, in my opinion at least. too inconsistent, lacks discipline. he should be one of our best ever - he's tall, quick enough, and moves the ball beautifully both ways. incredible at youth WC. he was getting there under bond, but seems to have stalled somewhat.

gollum

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There's no anger and the "background" and amazing insight you imply is non existent, I think it was the lame dig that may have irked me a bit.
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Anil Kumbles 500 test wickets would beg to differ...

Mokey

Southee better bloody perform. He's been a bowling passenger too long, and that so-called batting ability is rarely demonstrated.

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Kane Watch
 
Current Test average = 49.93.
 
To take his career average to 50 at end of this Test needs:
 
5 runs = not dismissed
 
55 runs = dismissed once
 
105 runs = dismissed twice
 
Go, Kane!

Gunner

Shit Tim is getting a hard time from the fernies at the moment.
 
Tims test series bowling averages for the last 2 and a bit years:
 
WI in NZ, 18 @ 18.11
India in NZ, 11 @ 23.81
NZ in WI, 11 @ 21.09
NZ v Pak (in UAE), 5 @ 51.40
SL in NZ, 8 @ 29.50
NZ in Eng, 8 @ 49.00
NZ in Aus, 6 @ 60.50
SL in NZ, 13 @ 16.30
 
For the whole period 80 @ 28.50
 
I wouldn't say he's lucky to be there, or that he's been a passenger. Quite the opposite really.
 
Come on Tim, rip it up this series and give all these critics the one fingered salute :good1:

hydro11

Southee should definitely be there if he is fit. His bowling last year wasn't very good but he has definitely built up enough capital to still be in the side. My only doubt with Southee was whether or not he was fit enough to play.

Hooroo

I'm so excited! 
 
I just can't hide it!
 
I know, I know , I know, I want you, I want you.......
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
...... to lose the toss Mr Smith!

Bovidae

I'll forgive your taste in music Hooroo. ;)
 
Interesting fact: in the last 5 tests at the Basin, the captain that has won the toss has bowled first, but none of their teams won the test.

SammyC

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I'll forgive your taste in music Hooroo. ;)
 
Interesting fact: in the last 5 tests at the Basin, the captain that has won the toss has bowled first, but none of their teams won the test.
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Interesting fact... but who were we playing?
 
Because as we all know, BMAC pretty much loses every toss.

No Quarter

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Shit Tim is getting a hard time from the fernies at the moment.
 
Tims test series bowling averages for the last 2 and a bit years:
 
WI in NZ, 18 @ 18.11
India in NZ, 11 @ 23.81
NZ in WI, 11 @ 21.09
NZ v Pak (in UAE), 5 @ 51.40
SL in NZ, 8 @ 29.50
NZ in Eng, 8 @ 49.00
NZ in Aus, 6 @ 60.50
SL in NZ, 13 @ 16.30
 
For the whole period 80 @ 28.50
 
I wouldn't say he's lucky to be there, or that he's been a passenger. Quite the opposite really.
 
Come on Tim, rip it up this series and give all these critics the one fingered salute :good1:
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Yeah overall 28.5 is not bad, but if you take out Sri Lanka who have a batting lineup that consists of Angelo Matthews, then you have 51.4 vs Pakistan, 49 vs England and 60.5 vs Australia in the last year or so.
 
And as it happens we are playing Australia.

Gunner

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Yeah overall 28.5 is not bad, but if you take out Sri Lanka who have a batting lineup that consists of Angelo Matthews, then you have 51.4 vs Pakistan, 49 vs England and 60.5 vs Australia in the last year or so.
 
And as it happens we are playing Australia.
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I don't get into the 'if you take out x, you get y' bullshit.
 
It is what it is, and you can only play who and what is in front of you.

No Quarter

Yep, and when it's a team like Australia in front of him, he tends to struggle.
 
Look, I don't want to bag Southee too much, he has been very good for us in recent years. But since the CWC his form has been concerning, and we've got an absolute gun in Henry that is not getting any game time. Hesson likes him as a "leader", but if his form doesn't warrant selection then they should not hesitate to give Henry a run.

taniwharugby

so he struggles v Aussie, but how much has he bowled to Aussie, in NZ?
 
Given all the love for Hesson and BMac on here, and ultimately they are the ones making this call, how many times have people been questioning their decisions and as it turns out, Hesson and BMac are pretty much on the money?

No Quarter

My point was more that he's struggled against anyone that is not Sri Lanka.

The Silver Fern

NZ v Australia Test #1