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@mooshld Cruden doesn't deserve any better special treatment than any others who have signed offshore. He isn't the first and won't be the last All Black to have his contract and its terms speculated, rumoured and reported. And it was the French papers that spilled beans first anyway.
It's been interesting to read a few Hamilton-based journos on Twitter yesterday suggesting Cruden should be thankful for their treatment of him in recent years, keeping mum about the specifics around his various misdemeanours from the missed flight to Mad Monday.
BTW, I was having a bit of fun with the Hansen remark so chill.
@Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:
@mooshld Cruden doesn't deserve any better special treatment than any others who have signed offshore. He isn't the first and won't be the last All Black to have his contract and its terms speculated, rumoured and reported. And it was the French papers that spilled beans first anyway.
It's been interesting to read a few Hamilton-based journos on Twitter yesterday suggesting Cruden should be thankful for their treatment of him in recent years, keeping mum about the specifics around his various misdemeanours from the missed flight to Mad Monday.
BTW, I was having a bit of fun with the Hansen remark so chill.
I'm not pointing the finger just agreeing with him there is fuck all he can do about it. You can't make him enjoy it. As he says it is what it is.
Sorry I read your post as being more bitter then it probably was. I mean he has done his time in my view.
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After midweek confirmation that James Broadhurst is no closer to a return, the Hurricanes' locking stocks took another hit with the news that Hawke's Bay's Geoff Cridge, who had a knee operation after the Magpies' Mitre 10 Cup campaign, will be gone for the season.
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After midweek confirmation that James Broadhurst is no closer to a return, the Hurricanes' locking stocks took another hit with the news that Hawke's Bay's Geoff Cridge, who had a knee operation after the Magpies' Mitre 10 Cup campaign, will be gone for the season.
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby News:
After midweek confirmation that James Broadhurst is no closer to a return, the Hurricanes' locking stocks took another hit with the news that Hawke's Bay's Geoff Cridge, who had a knee operation after the Magpies' Mitre 10 Cup campaign, will be gone for the season.
Who does that leave them with? Abbott, Fatialofa, Blackwell, Lousi, plus backup from Thomson and Fifita.
hardly a crisis
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby News:
After midweek confirmation that James Broadhurst is no closer to a return, the Hurricanes' locking stocks took another hit with the news that Hawke's Bay's Geoff Cridge, who had a knee operation after the Magpies' Mitre 10 Cup campaign, will be gone for the season.
Who does that leave them with? Abbott, Fatialofa, Blackwell, Lousi, plus backup from Thomson and Fifita.
hardly a crisis
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@Crucial Also Youngster Isaia Walker-Leawere is starting the pre season game at the Blues today.
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby News:
@Crucial Also Youngster Isaia Walker-Leawere is starting the pre season game at the Blues today.
GBHS boy. Following the footsteps of Hosea and Rico?
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After midweek confirmation that James Broadhurst is no closer to a return, the Hurricanes' locking stocks took another hit with the news that Hawke's Bay's Geoff Cridge, who had a knee operation after the Magpies' Mitre 10 Cup campaign, will be gone for the season.
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All Black Patrick Tuipulotu's career in limbo after positive test for a banned substance
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Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
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Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
Herald saying cheating drugs. In that case good riddance.
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@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
Herald saying cheating drugs. In that case good riddance.
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
Herald saying cheating drugs. In that case good riddance.
It doesn't say that, plus Herald has been known to get things wrong, so I'll await finding out more before I hang him.
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@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
Herald saying cheating drugs. In that case good riddance.
It doesn't say that, plus Herald has been known to get things wrong, so I'll await finding out more before I hang him.
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
Herald saying cheating drugs. In that case good riddance.
It doesn't say that, plus Herald has been known to get things wrong, so I'll await finding out more before I hang him.
It says performance enhancing drugs. They're not talking about viagra here.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
Really sad news. Wasting a career. I sort of hope it was recreational drugs and not cheating drugs.
Herald saying cheating drugs. In that case good riddance.
It doesn't say that, plus Herald has been known to get things wrong, so I'll await finding out more before I hang him.
It says performance enhancing drugs. They're not talking about viagra here.
@Billy-Tell doesn't say that either.
Tuipulotu is not thought to have used recreational drugs.
Yes you can take from that it means performance enhancing, but maybe it was medicated?
I am happy to leave judgement until all is known.
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@Billy-Tell doesn't say that either.
Tuipulotu is not thought to have used recreational drugs.
Yes you can take from that it means performance enhancing, but maybe it was medicated?
I am happy to leave judgement until all is known.
Stuff were saying it was personal, and applying for exemption on compassionate grounds. Sounds like there is more to come on this - don't rush to judgement.
B sample results apparently not yet back either -w hich is a weirdly long time. He has also been in and around the Blues, so if it was PED then you'd hope they shitcanned him and barred him from the team.
Sad however this turns out.
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Stuff were saying it was personal, and applying for exemption on compassionate grounds. Sounds like there is more to come on this - don't rush to judgement.
B sample results apparently not yet back either -w hich is a weirdly long time. He has also been in and around the Blues, so if it was PED then you'd hope they shitcanned him and barred him from the team.
Sad however this turns out.
@nzzp said in Super Rugby News:
Stuff were saying it was personal, and applying for exemption on compassionate grounds. Sounds like there is more to come on this - don't rush to judgement.
B sample results apparently not yet back either -w hich is a weirdly long time. He has also been in and around the Blues, so if it was PED then you'd hope they shitcanned him and barred him from the team.
Sad however this turns out.
How can you take PEDs on compassionate grounds?
I guess I wait and see what evolves but if he's let off for PEDs the rest of the rugby world will go to town on it.
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@nzzp said in Super Rugby News:
Stuff were saying it was personal, and applying for exemption on compassionate grounds. Sounds like there is more to come on this - don't rush to judgement.
B sample results apparently not yet back either -w hich is a weirdly long time. He has also been in and around the Blues, so if it was PED then you'd hope they shitcanned him and barred him from the team.
Sad however this turns out.
How can you take PEDs on compassionate grounds?
I guess I wait and see what evolves but if he's let off for PEDs the rest of the rugby world will go to town on it.
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
How can you take PEDs on compassionate grounds?
Drugs on the banned list may not be PED.
I think dope and cocaine are on there. Not sure either would actually help you play better at the top level.
as you say, wait and see...
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@nzzp said in Super Rugby News:
Stuff were saying it was personal, and applying for exemption on compassionate grounds. Sounds like there is more to come on this - don't rush to judgement.
B sample results apparently not yet back either -w hich is a weirdly long time. He has also been in and around the Blues, so if it was PED then you'd hope they shitcanned him and barred him from the team.
Sad however this turns out.
How can you take PEDs on compassionate grounds?
I guess I wait and see what evolves but if he's let off for PEDs the rest of the rugby world will go to town on it.
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
I guess I wait and see what evolves but if he's let off for PEDs the rest of the rugby world will go to town on it.
They shouldn't based on the Chilliboy/Basson exoneration - but as he had a black jersey on briefly it will no doubt.
I guess we will see what comes out in the wash but it's hard to think of anything that could possibly be so personal to the point where everyone has gone dark on it. Literally the only thing I could think of would be something pertaining to hormones.
The fact he hasn't requested for his B sample be tested is not a good sign. Unless it truly is truly something bizzare/unfortunate Hansen and co should have come out and said it from the jump - especially if Patrick is not disputing that he took it.
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thing is, if there is any medical reasons for prescribed steroids or similar, the NZRU medical team should have known about it, and would surely have applied for an exemption or done whatever they need to do to prevent it getting to this, although I guess he could have seen a Dr. outside of the NZRU, but again, if he has prescribed something surely knowing who PT is (as a Dr. would I expect as part of the process of finding out about, job, family history etc) advise him what is being prescribed is a banned substance.
It certainly doesnt sound very good at all, hopefully there is a reasonable explanation, but I suspect we are unlikely to find out much leaving everyone to speculate.
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@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News:
I guess I wait and see what evolves but if he's let off for PEDs the rest of the rugby world will go to town on it.
They shouldn't based on the Chilliboy/Basson exoneration - but as he had a black jersey on briefly it will no doubt.
I guess we will see what comes out in the wash but it's hard to think of anything that could possibly be so personal to the point where everyone has gone dark on it. Literally the only thing I could think of would be something pertaining to hormones.
The fact he hasn't requested for his B sample be tested is not a good sign. Unless it truly is truly something bizzare/unfortunate Hansen and co should have come out and said it from the jump - especially if Patrick is not disputing that he took it.
@rotated yeah, that was my thought too. Some kind of treatment for reduced fertility without even giving a thought to the consequences for PED tests. If that was the case then poor bugger, a choice between your sport / livelihood and having a family is not a position anyone would wish for.
