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    #1170

    Radio sport talking to Rob Nichols now.

    Clears some stuff up and testing done under 6 Nations rules to world rugby guidelines.

    Starts at about 8 mins in
    http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017.02.09-17.00.00-D.mp3
    http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017.02.09-17.15.00-D.mp3

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      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

      Also - why does the nz herald link above have a picture of V Fifita?

      Obvious isn't it...

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      boobooB Do not disturb
      booboo
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      @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

      Also - why does the nz herald link above have a picture of V Fifita?

      Obvious isn't it...

      Paddy's A Sample was actually from Vaea?

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      • boobooB booboo

        @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

        Also - why does the nz herald link above have a picture of V Fifita?

        Obvious isn't it...

        Paddy's A Sample was actually from Vaea?

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        #1172

        @booboo you white fullas all look the same to us!

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        • StargazerS Offline
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          #1173

          The most interesting points from the article below:

          PT's sample was collected immediately after the Ireland v ABs game on 5 November.

          While World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has the overall anti-doping responsibility/authority, Six Nations Rugby Limited (SNRL) was responsible for the collection of the sample.

          The sample was analysed by the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory (SMRTL) in Salt Lake City.

          SMRTL reported a positive result of the A sample and, after conducting the necessary review and notification procedures, Six Nations Rugby provisionally suspended PT (under World Rugby Regulation 21).

          Later, PT requested the analysis of the B sample (it's unclear when he made the request) and SMRTL reported on 7 February 2017 that the B sample analysis did not confirm the A sample analysis.

          "Accordingly, and again as required by World Rugby Regulation 21, SNRL confirmed to Mr Tuipulotu that the entire test is considered negative and that his provisional suspension has been lifted with immediate effect.
          
          "SMRTL is currently investigating the reason for the discrepancy between Mr Tuipulotu's A and B samples."
          

          WADA has launched a separate investigation into the case.

          Obviously, the whole process has been very stressful for PT and his family, and during this morning's interview he said that a team involving lawyers and representative from New Zealand Rugby, the players association, and the Blues, would continue to investigate the messy process and that he couldn't reveal the alleged substance or whether he would press for compensation or an apology.

          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/89266934/wada-and-six-nations-launch-inquiries-into-patrick-tuipulotu-doping-case

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            The most interesting points from the article below:

            PT's sample was collected immediately after the Ireland v ABs game on 5 November.

            While World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has the overall anti-doping responsibility/authority, Six Nations Rugby Limited (SNRL) was responsible for the collection of the sample.

            The sample was analysed by the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory (SMRTL) in Salt Lake City.

            SMRTL reported a positive result of the A sample and, after conducting the necessary review and notification procedures, Six Nations Rugby provisionally suspended PT (under World Rugby Regulation 21).

            Later, PT requested the analysis of the B sample (it's unclear when he made the request) and SMRTL reported on 7 February 2017 that the B sample analysis did not confirm the A sample analysis.

            "Accordingly, and again as required by World Rugby Regulation 21, SNRL confirmed to Mr Tuipulotu that the entire test is considered negative and that his provisional suspension has been lifted with immediate effect.
            
            "SMRTL is currently investigating the reason for the discrepancy between Mr Tuipulotu's A and B samples."
            

            WADA has launched a separate investigation into the case.

            Obviously, the whole process has been very stressful for PT and his family, and during this morning's interview he said that a team involving lawyers and representative from New Zealand Rugby, the players association, and the Blues, would continue to investigate the messy process and that he couldn't reveal the alleged substance or whether he would press for compensation or an apology.

            http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/89266934/wada-and-six-nations-launch-inquiries-into-patrick-tuipulotu-doping-case

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            @Stargazer yeah Rob NIchol mentioned the 6 Nations part yesterday.

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              From the interview I saw with Tew it sounds like it was Tuipulotu who was slow to react. Maybe he didn't immediately get the B sample checked because of how highly unlikely it is that the samples don't match. (1 in a 1000 I read I think?).

              He must have thought he had taken something inadvertently and he was fucked. No point bothering with it.

              Glad he changed his mind and hopefully next time they don't bloody dawdle.

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                From the interview I saw with Tew it sounds like it was Tuipulotu who was slow to react. Maybe he didn't immediately get the B sample checked because of how highly unlikely it is that the samples don't match. (1 in a 1000 I read I think?).

                He must have thought he had taken something inadvertently and he was fucked. No point bothering with it.

                Glad he changed his mind and hopefully next time they don't bloody dawdle.

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                Crucial
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                #1176

                @Frye said in Super Rugby News:

                From the interview I saw with Tew it sounds like it was Tuipulotu who was slow to react. Maybe he didn't immediately get the B sample checked because of how highly unlikely it is that the samples don't match. (1 in a 1000 I read I think?).

                He must have thought he had taken something inadvertently and he was fucked. No point bothering with it.

                Glad he changed his mind and hopefully next time they don't bloody dawdle.

                It sounded to me like he had advice to do a lot of fact checking before opting for the 'B' sample. Maybe there are implications legally if you are planning to fight the case even if the B comes back +.
                ie get prepared, have your supplements checked over, get statements early from trainers, team doctors etc.
                Maybe if you find out that you have actually taken something without knowing it is better to fess up and explain before opting for the 'B'?

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                  #1177

                  Israel Dagg will announce his playing future tomorrow. I'm posting here, instead of the Exodus thread, because I think - and hope - he'll stay in NZ.

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                    #1178

                    http://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/830719705165946881

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                      Extenuating circumstances? Messam was being a cock?

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                        #1180

                        2 weeks for a head butt seems very low, good to see the judiciary still as awesome as ever, head butt is a head butt, don't care about extenuating circumstances....I mean could any of the Chiefs done something dumb yesterday and claimed that?

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                          Cpt Kumera
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                          dagg confirmed for 3 more years at crusaders

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                            #1182

                            http://www.instagram.com/p/BQbMshdgt0o/

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                              dagg confirmed for 3 more years at crusaders

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                              @Cpt-Kumera said in Super Rugby News:

                              dagg confirmed for 3 more years at crusaders

                              Boooooo.

                              Although good he's staying in NZ. πŸ™‚

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                                Always good to have depth in certain positions but Dagg might find himself as an AB bench-warmer again with the return of NMS.

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                                  Always good to have depth in certain positions but Dagg might find himself as an AB bench-warmer again with the return of NMS.

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                                  #1185

                                  @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                                  Always good to have depth in certain positions but Dagg might find himself as an AB bench-warmer again with the return of NMS.

                                  Nonsense. Just chuck NMS on the left wing and you've got the best All Blacks backline: 11 NMS 14 Dagg 15 Bender

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                                    #1186

                                    Official NZR media release about Dagg re-signing:
                                    http://www.allblacks.com/News/30346/israel-dagg-makes-his-decision-and-it-s-new-zealand

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                                      Stargazer
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                                      http://twitter.com/Hurricanesrugby/status/830883139958353920

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Always good to have depth in certain positions but Dagg might find himself as an AB bench-warmer again with the return of NMS.

                                        Nonsense. Just chuck NMS on the left wing and you've got the best All Blacks backline: 11 NMS 14 Dagg 15 Bender

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        #1188

                                        @Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan. 😁

                                        Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan. 😁

                                          Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.

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                                          #1189

                                          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan. 😁

                                          Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.

                                          "in decent form" being the operative words. Savea hasn't had that form for a long time. Naholo hasn't been convincing either.

                                          One thing is clear, with Jordie also in the mix, Dmac will probably get few chances in black.

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