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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

    I think your post is a great example of the outrageously high benchmark people rate Savea by compared to other players.

    The benchmark for Savea is Savea, just like when other player's form dips they're rated against their previous form.

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    @Nepia said in Super Rugby News:

    @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

    I think your post is a great example of the outrageously high benchmark people rate Savea by compared to other players.

    The benchmark for Savea is Savea, just like when other player's form dips they're rated against their previous form.

    I'm really sorry that Julian ran over your cat but you're going to have to forgive him one day Nepia...

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      But in seriousness, that's absurd. Just because he hasn't been quite as effective as he was in previous seasons, doesn't mean he should be dropped - he's still significantly better then the other options. Or shall we renew calls for Lowe to be given a run? Because he's not flaky at all!

      Honestly, by that logic nearly everyone in the ABs would be dropped. Your boy Kaino would not have played since 2011, Read would have been dropped a few seasons ago, in fact the only constants would have been McCaw and probably BBBR/Whitelock. The rest have had ups and downs in form like any pro athlete. Why the constant calls to drop Savea when there's nobody ready and waiting in the wings? He's done more then enough to warrant his spot.

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        But in seriousness, that's absurd. Just because he hasn't been quite as effective as he was in previous seasons, doesn't mean he should be dropped - he's still significantly better then the other options. Or shall we renew calls for Lowe to be given a run? Because he's not flaky at all!

        Honestly, by that logic nearly everyone in the ABs would be dropped. Your boy Kaino would not have played since 2011, Read would have been dropped a few seasons ago, in fact the only constants would have been McCaw and probably BBBR/Whitelock. The rest have had ups and downs in form like any pro athlete. Why the constant calls to drop Savea when there's nobody ready and waiting in the wings? He's done more then enough to warrant his spot.

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        @No-Quarter were plenty of calls for McCaw to be dropped at various times in his career.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          @Nepia said in Super Rugby News:

          @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

          I think your post is a great example of the outrageously high benchmark people rate Savea by compared to other players.

          The benchmark for Savea is Savea, just like when other player's form dips they're rated against their previous form.

          I'm really sorry that Julian ran over your cat but you're going to have to forgive him one day Nepia...

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          @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

          @Nepia said in Super Rugby News:

          @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

          I think your post is a great example of the outrageously high benchmark people rate Savea by compared to other players.

          The benchmark for Savea is Savea, just like when other player's form dips they're rated against their previous form.

          I'm really sorry that Julian ran over your cat but you're going to have to forgive him one day Nepia...

          He's no longer fast enough to catch my cat.

          I like pre 2015 Julian, I just don't have to pretend the 2015-2016 version is as good.

          From the report from Boyd it sounds like he's training up a storm so you lot may be able to put the horse in the stable and leave the shield and that pole thing in the shed this season.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @No-Quarter were plenty of calls for McCaw to be dropped at various times in his career.

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            @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

            @No-Quarter were plenty of calls for McCaw to be dropped at various times in his career.

            Not by anyone that knows the first thing about rugby!! 🙂

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

              @Nepia said in Super Rugby News:

              @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

              I think your post is a great example of the outrageously high benchmark people rate Savea by compared to other players.

              The benchmark for Savea is Savea, just like when other player's form dips they're rated against their previous form.

              I'm really sorry that Julian ran over your cat but you're going to have to forgive him one day Nepia...

              He's no longer fast enough to catch my cat.

              I like pre 2015 Julian, I just don't have to pretend the 2015-2016 version is as good.

              From the report from Boyd it sounds like he's training up a storm so you lot may be able to put the horse in the stable and leave the shield and that pole thing in the shed this season.

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              @Nepia holy fuck did you just try and label other people white knights? that's rich as fuck!!

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Nepia holy fuck did you just try and label other people white knights? that's rich as fuck!!

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                @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

                @Nepia holy fuck did you just try and label other people white knights? that's rich as fuck!!

                This whole place is filled with pots calling kettle's black, I don't know why you're singling me out you bogan yokel.

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                  NEW SUPER RUGBY JUDICIARY PROCESS UNVEILED

                  SANZAAR has today confirmed a new and updated judicial process that will be implemented for Super Rugby 2017.
                  
                  Rugby’s governing body, World Rugby, has endorsed the process and SANZAAR believes it represents an enhancement to an important part of the tournament that will provide improved consistency and efficient decision-making.
 

                  
                  The changes to the SANZAAR Judicial Rules for 2017 include:
 
                  
                  Permitting an incident to be referred back to the Citing Commissioner for review if new evidence becomes available outside the existing allowable time frame for determination.
 
                  The introduction of a three-person Foul Play Review Committee
 
                  The exclusion of the regular season bye rounds in any sanction
 
                  The ability of Judicial Committees to issue a warning for foul play offences that in their opinion do not quite meet the “Red Card” threshold.
                  
                  Central to the amendments in 2017 is the formation of the Foul Play Review Committee. The committee will be comprised of a consistent panel of three members who in the first instance will review all incidents of red cards, Citing Commissioner referrals and misconduct, and make a determination based on the information before them. The committee will meet at a fixed time to be determined at the conclusion of each round and the infringing player will have the ability to accept the decision of the committee or have the right to be heard at a formal judicial hearing within the following 24 hours.
 

                  
                  SANZAAR has appointed senior Judicial Officer Nigel Hampton QC (New Zealand) to chair the committee and he will be assisted by former Super Rugby and international players, John Langford (Australia) and Stefan Terblanche (South Africa).
 

                  
                  In the determination of an incident and the handing down of any sanctions, the committee will now have the ability to exclude any regular season Super Rugby byes as part of a meaningful sanction. This is a significant change and will ensure all sanctions issued during Super Rugby are treated consistently across all teams.
 

                  
                  Commenting on the new judicial process SANZAAR CEO Andy Marinos said, “The new process is the result of the identification of certain challenges within the application of an effective and consistent judicial process. It has followed a comprehensive review of Super Rugby 2016  and a consultation process with the Four National Unions (ARU, NZR, SARU and UAR). The changes also follow World Rugby’s acceptance, following a Judicial Review Conference last year, that competition organisers be allowed to tailor judicial processes to suit the challenges associated within their competitions.”
 

                  
                  “SANZAAR believes Super Rugby has unique challenges across six territories and 15 time zones and the enhanced Super Rugby judicial process will deliver a more streamlined and effective system for teams and a more consistent outcome for players and fans to identify with.”
 

                  
                  For a summary flow chart of the SANZAAR Judiciary Process CLICK HERE

                  
                  The Tournament will also be played under World Rugby’s 2017 Law Trials and the head contact law revisions.
                  

                  http://www.sanzarrugby.com/superrugby/news/new-super-rugby-judiciary-process-unveiled/

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    NEW SUPER RUGBY JUDICIARY PROCESS UNVEILED

                    SANZAAR has today confirmed a new and updated judicial process that will be implemented for Super Rugby 2017.
                    
                    Rugby’s governing body, World Rugby, has endorsed the process and SANZAAR believes it represents an enhancement to an important part of the tournament that will provide improved consistency and efficient decision-making.
 

                    
                    The changes to the SANZAAR Judicial Rules for 2017 include:
 
                    
                    Permitting an incident to be referred back to the Citing Commissioner for review if new evidence becomes available outside the existing allowable time frame for determination.
 
                    The introduction of a three-person Foul Play Review Committee
 
                    The exclusion of the regular season bye rounds in any sanction
 
                    The ability of Judicial Committees to issue a warning for foul play offences that in their opinion do not quite meet the “Red Card” threshold.
                    
                    Central to the amendments in 2017 is the formation of the Foul Play Review Committee. The committee will be comprised of a consistent panel of three members who in the first instance will review all incidents of red cards, Citing Commissioner referrals and misconduct, and make a determination based on the information before them. The committee will meet at a fixed time to be determined at the conclusion of each round and the infringing player will have the ability to accept the decision of the committee or have the right to be heard at a formal judicial hearing within the following 24 hours.
 

                    
                    SANZAAR has appointed senior Judicial Officer Nigel Hampton QC (New Zealand) to chair the committee and he will be assisted by former Super Rugby and international players, John Langford (Australia) and Stefan Terblanche (South Africa).
 

                    
                    In the determination of an incident and the handing down of any sanctions, the committee will now have the ability to exclude any regular season Super Rugby byes as part of a meaningful sanction. This is a significant change and will ensure all sanctions issued during Super Rugby are treated consistently across all teams.
 

                    
                    Commenting on the new judicial process SANZAAR CEO Andy Marinos said, “The new process is the result of the identification of certain challenges within the application of an effective and consistent judicial process. It has followed a comprehensive review of Super Rugby 2016  and a consultation process with the Four National Unions (ARU, NZR, SARU and UAR). The changes also follow World Rugby’s acceptance, following a Judicial Review Conference last year, that competition organisers be allowed to tailor judicial processes to suit the challenges associated within their competitions.”
 

                    
                    “SANZAAR believes Super Rugby has unique challenges across six territories and 15 time zones and the enhanced Super Rugby judicial process will deliver a more streamlined and effective system for teams and a more consistent outcome for players and fans to identify with.”
 

                    
                    For a summary flow chart of the SANZAAR Judiciary Process CLICK HERE

                    
                    The Tournament will also be played under World Rugby’s 2017 Law Trials and the head contact law revisions.
                    

                    http://www.sanzarrugby.com/superrugby/news/new-super-rugby-judiciary-process-unveiled/

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                    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                    NEW SUPER RUGBY JUDICIARY PROCESS UNVEILED

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                      Facundo Isa has signed with Toulon for at least two seasons from 2017-18. He has already been part of the French club during the 2013-14 season at the age of 20, when he played only one game for them.

                      Big loss for the Jaguares (and, possibly, the Pumas?), who IMO will be losing one of their best players.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Facundo Isa has signed with Toulon for at least two seasons from 2017-18. He has already been part of the French club during the 2013-14 season at the age of 20, when he played only one game for them.

                        Big loss for the Jaguares (and, possibly, the Pumas?), who IMO will be losing one of their best players.

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                        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                        Facundo Isa has signed with Toulon for at least two seasons from 2017-18. He has already been part of the French club during the 2013-14 season at the age of 20, when he played only one game for them.

                        Big loss for the Jaguares (and, possibly, the Pumas?), who IMO will be losing one of their best players.

                        Do you know what his availability is for this year's Super Rugby?

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                        • MilkM Milk

                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                          Facundo Isa has signed with Toulon for at least two seasons from 2017-18. He has already been part of the French club during the 2013-14 season at the age of 20, when he played only one game for them.

                          Big loss for the Jaguares (and, possibly, the Pumas?), who IMO will be losing one of their best players.

                          Do you know what his availability is for this year's Super Rugby?

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                          @Milk said in Super Rugby News:

                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                          Facundo Isa has signed with Toulon for at least two seasons from 2017-18. He has already been part of the French club during the 2013-14 season at the age of 20, when he played only one game for them.

                          Big loss for the Jaguares (and, possibly, the Pumas?), who IMO will be losing one of their best players.

                          Do you know what his availability is for this year's Super Rugby?

                          I only know what's written in this article; haven't see anything official from the Argentine Rugby Union (UAR), the Pumas or Jaguares yet:

                          The move means that Isa will not be considered for Los Jaguares in Super Rugby, with the UAR staying consistent with their policy of not selecting European-based players. Third-choice hooker Facundo Bosch was also removed from the Jaguares squad after signing for Agen. 
                          
                          More importantly for Argentina fans, barring a drastic change in policy Isa will now be unavailable for Pumas selection for the duration of his contract. It has been reported that Isa held talks with the UAR in an effort to change their stance, but that looks unlikely to change in the immediate future. Should the policy remain unchanged, there remains a glimmer of hope that Isa could return in time for the 2019 World Cup, with his contract ending in June of that year.
                          

                          http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/02/16/toulon-confirm-facundo-isa-signing/

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                            Thanks @Stargazer

                            For some reason I thought I had heard he wasn't available at the very start of this season, but cant find anything to back that up.

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                            • MilkM Milk

                              Thanks @Stargazer

                              For some reason I thought I had heard he wasn't available at the very start of this season, but cant find anything to back that up.

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                              @Milk said in Super Rugby News:

                              Thanks @Stargazer

                              For some reason I thought I had heard he wasn't available at the very start of this season, but cant find anything to back that up.

                              He was blocked from training with he Jaguares when the news about a possible signing with Toulon emerged. It's in this article which confuses Toulon and Toulouse:

                              http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/01/24/uar-block-facundo-isa-jaguares-training/

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                                Unfortunately super rugby is no longer where it's at. At least outside the nz teams.

                                Isa, Imhof, Ayerza, Figallo.

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                                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11804182

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                                    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11804266

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                                        I should hate it but I don't, I love the new Super Rugby advert in the white rooms. It's really catchy

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                                          Would someone who has watched NPC name some of the uncapped super rugby players to really look out for. I have jordie Barrett on my radar which is fairly obvious but there must be some others...?

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