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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    There has been a tweak in the playoff format, which has problems too.

    For the NZ teams, finishing 3rd in the NZC maybe an advantage over 2nd as although this would mean a trip to SA your reward is a home SF if you win that game and the overall no.2 seed also loses.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94368923/sanzaars-desire-to-reduce-logistical-nightmare-the-reason-for-new-super-rugby-semifinals-structure

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    Lions news

    Swys de Bruin, current assistant coach to Johan Ackerman, has been appointed as the new head coach, taking over from Ackers next season. Also keeping the core of the players next season as well, and no his son is not joining him Gloucester.

    Lions players: Warren Whiteley, Albertus Smith, Andries Coetzee, Andries Ferreira (renewed), Anthony Volminck, Aphiwe Dyantyi, Cornรฉ Fourie, Courtnall Skosan (renewed), Cyle Brink, Dillon Smit (renewed), Dylan Smith, Elton Jantjies, Francois Mostert, Harold Vorster, Howard Mnisi, Jaco Kriel, Jaco van der Walt (renewed), Jacques van Rooyen (renewed), Johannes Jonker, Justin Ackerman (renewed), Lionel Mapoe (renewed), Lourens Erasmus, Malcolm Marx (renewed), Marvin Orie, Robbie Coetzee, Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Ross Cronjรฉ, Ruan Ackermann, Ruan Combrinck, Ruan Dreyer, Shaun Reynolds, Sithembiso Sithole, Sylvian Mahuza (renewed).

    And on that note....C'mon CANES!!!!

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      The Hurricanes have moved swiftly to future-proof their championship-winning team by retaining four leading players.

      They include new All Blacks Ngani Laumape, signed for two more seasons, and Vaea Fifita, who has committed through to 2020.

      Laumape and Fifita join midfielder Matt Proctor and lock Geoff Cridge in inking new deals.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11889655

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        Yikes imagine the uproar if they hadn't have locked in Cridge. We'd have a LOT of unhappy canes fans.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          There has been a tweak in the playoff format, which has problems too.

          For the NZ teams, finishing 3rd in the NZC maybe an advantage over 2nd as although this would mean a trip to SA your reward is a home SF if you win that game and the overall no.2 seed also loses.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94368923/sanzaars-desire-to-reduce-logistical-nightmare-the-reason-for-new-super-rugby-semifinals-structure

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          @Bovidae That's quite a significant change - messes up my plan that the Crusaders could finish top and might only have to face teams travelling from South Africa.

          The plus side right now is that if we finish second, although we'd have to play the Highlanders - if we managed to get past them we'd get a team travelling from SA for the semi - whereas finish first we should get the Sharks, but then a team travelling only a few hours from Canberra for the semi.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            There has been a tweak in the playoff format, which has problems too.

            For the NZ teams, finishing 3rd in the NZC maybe an advantage over 2nd as although this would mean a trip to SA your reward is a home SF if you win that game and the overall no.2 seed also loses.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94368923/sanzaars-desire-to-reduce-logistical-nightmare-the-reason-for-new-super-rugby-semifinals-structure

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            @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

            There has been a tweak in the playoff format, which has problems too.

            For the NZ teams, finishing 3rd in the NZC maybe an advantage over 2nd as although this would mean a trip to SA your reward is a home SF if you win that game and the overall no.2 seed also loses.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94368923/sanzaars-desire-to-reduce-logistical-nightmare-the-reason-for-new-super-rugby-semifinals-structure

            Both the Sanzaar website and the final version of the 2017 Super Rugby Media Guide (March 2017) say this:

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

              There has been a tweak in the playoff format, which has problems too.

              For the NZ teams, finishing 3rd in the NZC maybe an advantage over 2nd as although this would mean a trip to SA your reward is a home SF if you win that game and the overall no.2 seed also loses.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94368923/sanzaars-desire-to-reduce-logistical-nightmare-the-reason-for-new-super-rugby-semifinals-structure

              Both the Sanzaar website and the final version of the 2017 Super Rugby Media Guide (March 2017) say this:

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              @Stargazer Yeah - that's exactly what that article describes.

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              • KruseK Kruse

                @Stargazer Yeah - that's exactly what that article describes.

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                As opposed to 2016:
                SF1: Highest Seed vs Lowest Seed
                SF2: Second Highest Seed vs Third Highest Seed

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                • KruseK Kruse

                  @Stargazer Yeah - that's exactly what that article describes.

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                  @Kruse Yes, that's why I wonder why the article suggests that this has gone largely unnoticed. Info was easily available, especially to the media.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Kruse Yes, that's why I wonder why the article suggests that this has gone largely unnoticed. Info was easily available, especially to the media.

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                    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                    @Kruse Yes, that's why I wonder why the article suggests that this has gone largely unnoticed. Info was easily available, especially to the media.

                    Ah sorry - I misunderstood, thinking you'd misunderstood.
                    So... you were thinking "the media" are competent - and that's where the misunderstanding actually was?

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                    • KruseK Kruse

                      @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                      @Kruse Yes, that's why I wonder why the article suggests that this has gone largely unnoticed. Info was easily available, especially to the media.

                      Ah sorry - I misunderstood, thinking you'd misunderstood.
                      So... you were thinking "the media" are competent - and that's where the misunderstanding actually was?

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                      @Kruse Haha, yes, I'm naively hoping that there may still be some good sports journos out there. Silly me! :person_facepalming_tone3:

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Kruse Haha, yes, I'm naively hoping that there may still be some good sports journos out there. Silly me! :person_facepalming_tone3:

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                        @Stargazer You have to wonder if the only reason it's being reported on now was that SANZAAR "prompted" them to do so, as it's long past time people were warned.

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                        • KruseK Kruse

                          @Stargazer You have to wonder if the only reason it's being reported on now was that SANZAAR "prompted" them to do so, as it's long past time people were warned.

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                          @Kruse said in Super Rugby News:

                          @Stargazer You have to wonder if the only reason it's being reported on now was that SANZAAR "prompted" them to do so, as it's long past time people were warned.

                          I see the jaapies noticed back in January.
                          And the aussies - well, it's irrelevant to them really, isn't it?

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                            So with all teams now even on games played (14) the situation is

                            1. Crusaders 63 (v Hurricanes / 68-63 / 1 or 2 )

                            2. Lions 61 (v Sharks / 65-61 / 1 or 2 )

                            3. Stormers 39 (v Bulls / 44-39 / 3 )

                            4. Brumbies 34 (v Chiefs / 39-34 / 4 )

                            5. Hurricanes 54 (v Crusaders / 59-54 / 5 or 6)

                            6. Chiefs 53 (v Brumbies / 58-53 / 5 or 6)

                            7. Highlanders 46 (v Reds / 51-46 / 7 or 8 )

                            8. Sharks 42 (v Lions / 47-42 / 7 or 8 )

                            So (my guesses at end)

                            Q1: Crusaders OR Lions V Highlanders OR Sharks (Crusaders v Sharks)
                            Q2: Crusaders OR Lions V Highlanders OR Sharks (Lions v Highlanders)
                            Q3: Stormers V Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Stormers v Chiefs Canes)
                            Q4: Brumbies V Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Brumbies v Hurricanes Chiefs)

                            S1: Crusaders OR Lions OR Highlanders OR Sharks V Brumbies OR Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Crusaders v Hurricanes Chiefs)
                            S2: Crusaders OR Lions OR Highlanders OR Sharks V Stormers OR Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Lions v ChiefsCanes)

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              So with all teams now even on games played (14) the situation is

                              1. Crusaders 63 (v Hurricanes / 68-63 / 1 or 2 )

                              2. Lions 61 (v Sharks / 65-61 / 1 or 2 )

                              3. Stormers 39 (v Bulls / 44-39 / 3 )

                              4. Brumbies 34 (v Chiefs / 39-34 / 4 )

                              5. Hurricanes 54 (v Crusaders / 59-54 / 5 or 6)

                              6. Chiefs 53 (v Brumbies / 58-53 / 5 or 6)

                              7. Highlanders 46 (v Reds / 51-46 / 7 or 8 )

                              8. Sharks 42 (v Lions / 47-42 / 7 or 8 )

                              So (my guesses at end)

                              Q1: Crusaders OR Lions V Highlanders OR Sharks (Crusaders v Sharks)
                              Q2: Crusaders OR Lions V Highlanders OR Sharks (Lions v Highlanders)
                              Q3: Stormers V Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Stormers v Chiefs Canes)
                              Q4: Brumbies V Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Brumbies v Hurricanes Chiefs)

                              S1: Crusaders OR Lions OR Highlanders OR Sharks V Brumbies OR Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Crusaders v Hurricanes Chiefs)
                              S2: Crusaders OR Lions OR Highlanders OR Sharks V Stormers OR Hurricanes OR Chiefs (Lions v ChiefsCanes)

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                              @Crucial If I read that right - you're picking the Chiefs to lose to the Brumbies this weekend?

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                              • KruseK Kruse

                                @Crucial If I read that right - you're picking the Chiefs to lose to the Brumbies this weekend?

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                                @Kruse said in Super Rugby News:

                                @Crucial If I read that right - you're picking the Chiefs to lose to the Brumbies this weekend?

                                (Or Lions to lose to Sharks?)

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                                  @Crucial If I read that right - you're picking the Chiefs to lose to the Brumbies this weekend?

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                                  @Kruse said in Super Rugby News:

                                  @Crucial If I read that right - you're picking the Chiefs to lose to the Brumbies this weekend?

                                  No. Confused myself. Sdaers to beat Canes. Chiefs to beat Brumbies

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                                    The whole 5/6 between Chiefs and Canes is a real puzzler. Not that I think either would throw a game but you really have to wonder which potential route they would want.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Kruse said in Super Rugby News:

                                      @Crucial If I read that right - you're picking the Chiefs to lose to the Brumbies this weekend?

                                      No. Confused myself. Sdaers to beat Canes. Chiefs to beat Brumbies

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                                      @Crucial said in Super Rugby News:

                                      @Kruse said in Super Rugby News:

                                      @Crucial If I read that right - you're picking the Chiefs to lose to the Brumbies this weekend?

                                      No. Confused myself. Sdaers to beat Canes. Chiefs to beat Brumbies

                                      Yeah - I had to look through it a few times myself to make sure I wasn't making an idiot of myself.
                                      In any case - I guess it's good that at this point, the number of permutations is still so open.
                                      I guess the upside for the Canes is that although at first glance they're getting shafted by the new system... if everything goes as one would expect (pretty much your guesses) - they can travel to SA, play 1 relatively easy game, stay over there - minimal travel, before SF against Lions.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                                        There has been a tweak in the playoff format, which has problems too.

                                        For the NZ teams, finishing 3rd in the NZC maybe an advantage over 2nd as although this would mean a trip to SA your reward is a home SF if you win that game and the overall no.2 seed also loses.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94368923/sanzaars-desire-to-reduce-logistical-nightmare-the-reason-for-new-super-rugby-semifinals-structure

                                        Both the Sanzaar website and the final version of the 2017 Super Rugby Media Guide (March 2017) say this:

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                                        @Stargazer Who reads the media guides? ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        It will be interesting to see the team lists for the Chiefs-Brumbies and Hurricanes-Crusaders games. The Nags have injury concerns and may rest some players safe in the knowledge they host a QF regardless of the result. If the Chiefs beat them then they could be playing eachother again the following week.

                                        There is more on the line in the other game, and we know what happened in this fixture last year, when the Crusaders lost the chance to be the top seed.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Stargazer Who reads the media guides? ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          It will be interesting to see the team lists for the Chiefs-Brumbies and Hurricanes-Crusaders games. The Nags have injury concerns and may rest some players safe in the knowledge they host a QF regardless of the result. If the Chiefs beat them then they could be playing eachother again the following week.

                                          There is more on the line in the other game, and we know what happened in this fixture last year, when the Crusaders lost the chance to be the top seed.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @Stargazer Who reads the media guides? ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          It will be interesting to see the team lists for the Chiefs-Brumbies and Hurricanes-Crusaders games. The Nags have injury concerns and may rest some players safe in the knowledge they host a QF regardless of the result. If the Chiefs beat them then they could be playing eachother again the following week.

                                          There is more on the line in the other game, and we know what happened in this fixture last year, when the Crusaders lost the chance to be the top seed.

                                          So - if Canes lose, they're looking at (probably) QF & SF in SouthAfrica, then fly back for a final in Christchurch,
                                          If they win - they're looking at (probably), easy QF in Oz, fly to SA for tough SF, then fly home for a Final in Chch.
                                          (I think)
                                          Would they be considering resting a few players?

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