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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @hydro11 said in Super Rugby News:

    @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

    How is home advantage decided in the semifinals?

    The top ranked of the two teams.

    Yep, it's easy if the Lions and Crusaders win their QFs, because then the SFs will be in Johannesburg and Christchurch regardless of their opposition. If the Sharks and/or Highlanders win the QFs, you'll have to look closely at their and their opposition's total competition points.

    I think - assuming the QF seeding nonsense doesn't apply when determining the ranking and only total competition points are relevant - this will be where the SF will be played:

    Lions win: SF in Johannesburg
    Sharks win: SF in Durban if Canes lose to Brumbies; SF in Wellington if Canes beat Brumbies
    Brumbies win: SF in Johannesburg if Lions beat Sharks; SF in Durban if Lions lose to Sharks
    Canes win: SF in Johannesburg if Lions beat Sharks; SF in Wellington if Lions lose to Sharks

    Crusaders win: SF in Christchurch
    Highlanders win: SF in Dunedin if Stormers beat the Chiefs; SF in Hamilton if Stormers lose to the Chiefs
    Stormers win: SF in Christchurch if the Crusaders beat the Highlanders; SF in Dunedin if the Crusaders lose
    Chiefs win: SF in Christchurch if the Crusaders beat the Highlanders; SF in Hamilton if the Crusaders lose

    So best case scenarios for each NZ team are...

    Crusaders- win v Highlanders, semi in ChCh, win semi and play Hurricanes who had to travel to SA and back
    Highlanders - beat Crusaders, hope Chiefs win and have to travel back for game in Hamilton then play final in wellington against returning Hurricanes.
    Hurricanes, beat Brumbies, hope Sharks beat Lions, play semi in Wellington, hope Highlanders beat Crusaders in quarters and claim final at home without much travel
    Chiefs - beat Stormers, hope Highlanders beat Crusaders so they get a home semi, hope to get a final against a returning Canes

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    @Crucial So - in short, every NZ team wants every other NZ team to win - except everybody wants the Crusaders to lose.
    Plus Hurricanes really, really want Sharks to somehow pull a win against Lions out of their ass.

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      having not watched any of the Lions game this year - are they essentially the same team as last year? Or have they regressed or improved?

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        I haven't watched any Lions games either, but Warren Whiteley is out for the rest of Super rugby so that will be a huge loss. With Ackerman leaving they won't be lacking motivation to win the comp.

        They are not going to be easy to beat in Jo'burg, as last year proved.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          I haven't watched any Lions games either, but Warren Whiteley is out for the rest of Super rugby so that will be a huge loss. With Ackerman leaving they won't be lacking motivation to win the comp.

          They are not going to be easy to beat in Jo'burg, as last year proved.

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          @Bovidae Herald has some stats up today from the RR

          Best tackle percentage (Min 70 tackles)
          Warren Whiteley (Lions) - 98.1%

          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11891738

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            I haven't watched any Lions games either, but Warren Whiteley is out for the rest of Super rugby so that will be a huge loss. With Ackerman leaving they won't be lacking motivation to win the comp.

            They are not going to be easy to beat in Jo'burg, as last year proved.

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            #2113

            @Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:

            I haven't watched any Lions games either, but Warren Whiteley is out for the rest of Super rugby so that will be a huge loss. With Ackerman leaving they won't be lacking motivation to win the comp.

            They are not going to be easy to beat in Jo'burg, as last year proved.

            Yeah, I think if last years final was on Jo'burg they would have won. Canes were lucky to just top the table in the end following the Lions loss in Argentina with a 2nd string side from memory.

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            • KiwiMurphK Online
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              Match Brumbies v Hurricanes @ GIO Stadium, Canberra
              Date Friday 21 July 2017
              Kick-Off 19:35 local
              Referee Glen Jackson
              AR1 Nic Berry
              AR2 Will Houston
              TMO Ian Smith

              Match Crusaders v Highlanders @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
              Date Saturday 22 July 2017
              Kick-Off 19:35 local
              Referee Angus Gardner
              AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
              AR2 Mike Fraser
              TMO Glenn Newman

              Match Lions v Sharks @ Emirates Airlines Park, Johannesburg
              Date Saturday 22 July 2017
              Kick-Off 14:30 local
              Referee Marius van der Westhuizen
              AR1 Jaco van Heerden
              AR2 Egon Seconds
              TMO Marius Jonker

              Match Stormers v Chiefs @ DHL Newlands, Cape Town
              Date Saturday 22 July 2017
              Kick-Off 17:00 local
              Referee Jaco Peyper
              AR1 Rasta Rasivhenge
              AR2 Quinton Immelman
              TMO Johan Greeff

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                So hometown going to Canberra to ref an Aussie - NZ clash...looking forward to it!

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                • BovidaeB Offline
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                  SANZAAR have done some cost-cutting there. Apart from Hometown and Gardner none of the other officials leave their own country.

                  I'm surprised they didn't wheel out Ayoub for Canberra.

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                    First the Brumbies get a home final after winning like two games all year. Then on top of that they get Hometown as a ref? We get it News Ltd, you really want an Aussie team in the comp for as long as possible. Maybe be a bit more subtle next year aye?

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                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94837194/dane-coles-reveals-lowest-point-of-fourmonth-rugby-layoff-i-thought-this-might-be-it

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                        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/94841202/chiefs-midfielder-charlie-ngatai-out-of-super-rugby-quarterfinal-against-stormers-with-ankle-injury

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                        • BonesB Online
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                          I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

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                            @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

                            I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

                            Yeah, you've gotta feel for the guy though. Just as his game and position matured and his class was on show he has copped one thing after another.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

                              I get the feeling it would be more newsworthy if Ngatai was actually fit for a game.

                              Yeah, you've gotta feel for the guy though. Just as his game and position matured and his class was on show he has copped one thing after another.

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                              @Crucial his whole career more like it!

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                                With Coles already signed through to 2019, it looks like our no. 2 hooker will also stay in NZ. That's a relief, esp because we have to wait and see how Coles gets through the next few weeks/months and there's daylight between Taylor and Harris, Coltman (who are also signed until 2019) etc. It gives the ABs a bit of time to develop the next crop, which is really necessary.

                                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/94948939/all-blacks-hooker-codie-taylor-set-to-stay-in-new-zealand

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                                  Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                                  http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

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                                    for all those muppets saying Jordie shoulda been kicking in the test...oh wait, he's right footed isnt he?

                                    https://twitter.com/avan_rugby/status/887921433208250369

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                                      I was relayed an anecdote from an old timer involved in the Lincoln Uni club who was cleaning up after practice one Tuesday and saw Jordie Barrett stay behind, banging over leftfooted droppies from the sideline, 50 metres out.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                                        http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

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                                        #2127

                                        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                        Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                                        http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

                                        I've never understood this.

                                        If the players felt their bodies needed a rest, they wouldn't sign these lucrative off season contracts.

                                        They are adults who are capable of making grown up decisions. They know their clock is ticking and all of them who choose to play more are doing so out of their own free will.

                                        my 2c

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                                        • PNP PN

                                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                          Player welfare no consideration in Japan? This is just ridiculous. If I remember it correctly, many players also had no break before the SR season.

                                          http://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/887932158051885056

                                          I've never understood this.

                                          If the players felt their bodies needed a rest, they wouldn't sign these lucrative off season contracts.

                                          They are adults who are capable of making grown up decisions. They know their clock is ticking and all of them who choose to play more are doing so out of their own free will.

                                          my 2c

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                                          @PN Playing in Japan, is only an off-season thing for players of NZ, SA or Aussie franchises. For Japanese players, this is their domestic competition! No doubt there are Ferners who can explain this better. A lot of the Sunwolves' players are selected and signed from Top League clubs.

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