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    Great to see Michael Little in Super Rugby.

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    • TimT Tim

      Great to see Michael Little in Super Rugby.

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      @tim

      Probably happy to be back - his Japanese was alright, from memory (he went to school here for a bit). Lucky bastard will be living large.

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        https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/side-entry-the-nerds-are-taking-over-rugby-20171210-2

        Speaking of All Blacks, has anyone noticed Bulls coach John Mitchell has turned the rugby language into corporate speak? Mitch was quoted as saying of his players “They have a choice between SOAR (Standards Ownership Accountability Responsibility), or BED (Blame Excuses Denial)” this week. Apparently his coaching methodology is called WTP (Weekly Tactical Periodisation), which may or may not rhyme with WTF.

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        • TimT Tim

          https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/side-entry-the-nerds-are-taking-over-rugby-20171210-2

          Speaking of All Blacks, has anyone noticed Bulls coach John Mitchell has turned the rugby language into corporate speak? Mitch was quoted as saying of his players “They have a choice between SOAR (Standards Ownership Accountability Responsibility), or BED (Blame Excuses Denial)” this week. Apparently his coaching methodology is called WTP (Weekly Tactical Periodisation), which may or may not rhyme with WTF.

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          @tim ah Mitch, he really is a special creature isn't he?

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            @tim ah Mitch, he really is a special creature isn't he?

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            @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

            @tim ah Mitch, he really is a special creature isn't he?

            The journey continues.

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            • TimT Tim

              https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/side-entry-the-nerds-are-taking-over-rugby-20171210-2

              Speaking of All Blacks, has anyone noticed Bulls coach John Mitchell has turned the rugby language into corporate speak? Mitch was quoted as saying of his players “They have a choice between SOAR (Standards Ownership Accountability Responsibility), or BED (Blame Excuses Denial)” this week. Apparently his coaching methodology is called WTP (Weekly Tactical Periodisation), which may or may not rhyme with WTF.

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              @tim So have the Saffas only just figured this out now? The guy is a few kumara short of a hangi. Damn, now I feel like hangi - one issue with living in the West Island is I don't get to do my hangi/BBQ crawl on Xmas day.

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                #2668

                for all his faults, Mitch did get some great results and bring through some outstanding players..but when you add in the, er, business speak, the innovative stuff he tried, as well as his media management...

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  for all his faults, Mitch did get some great results and bring through some outstanding players..but when you add in the, er, business speak, the innovative stuff he tried, as well as his media management...

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                  @taniwharugby Nepia's alarm just went off "but Cully..."

                  Those two away games in 2003 3N were awesome. Just belting the saffers and the Aussies at their house in consecutive weeks. And then got the Bledisloe back. That's a good year. Unfortunately then the World Cup semi happened.

                  And then the stuff about the culture came out.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @taniwharugby Nepia's alarm just went off "but Cully..."

                    Those two away games in 2003 3N were awesome. Just belting the saffers and the Aussies at their house in consecutive weeks. And then got the Bledisloe back. That's a good year. Unfortunately then the World Cup semi happened.

                    And then the stuff about the culture came out.

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                    @mariner4life thats the innovative stuff; you should hold a ball like this, no rucking, no contesting at lineouts...

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                      What a tool!
                      The question is, if Hunt is guilty and loses his job, will Thorn ask Cooper to come back to the Reds?

                      Hunt charged with drug possession

                      Karmichael Hunt has been arrested and charged with drug possession, after allegedly being caught by police in Brisbane.
                      ...
                      The 31-year-old re-signed with Rugby Australia and the Reds just last month.
                      
                      RUGBY.com.au understands no other players were involved.
                      
                      Rugby Australia released a statement on Saturday afternoon, saying it has begun an investigation into the incident.
                      ... ...
                      
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                      • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                        No.

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                          I'll just put this here...

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            I'll just put this here...

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                            @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                            I'll just put this here...

                            0_1514778566282_1f437243-5e60-44d2-87e5-b51431531706-image.png

                            Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):

                            1. Where from?
                            2. any idea how they calculate?
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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                              I'll just put this here...

                              0_1514778566282_1f437243-5e60-44d2-87e5-b51431531706-image.png

                              Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):

                              1. Where from?
                              2. any idea how they calculate?
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                              #2675

                              @booboo said in Super Rugby News:

                              @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                              I'll just put this here...

                              Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):

                              1. Where from?
                              2. any idea how they calculate?

                              1 From USA.
                              2 This is what they say on their website:

                              Designed by a MIT economist, Rugby Vision (RV) is a suite of statistical models that predicts outcomes for major rugby competitions. For each game, RV calculates the expected score margin and the probability of each team winning. RV also calculates the probability of each team obtaining various milestones in a tournament. For more on RV’s methods, see our Rugby World Cup overview. 
                              

                              On that RWC page they say this:

                              Like most future events, it is impossible to know for certain who will win the 2015 Rugby World Cup, but we can estimate probabilities of various outcomes occurring. We do this by building a rating system for international rugby matches and using these ratings to estimate expected score margins (like who will win and by how much.) We can then characterize uncertainty around these predictions.
                              
                              In the following analysis, I use the rugbyvision.com algorithm to rate teams. This scheme is an Elo-type system specifically designed to represent international rugby games. The Elo system, named after Arpad Elo, was originally invented to rank chess players and is now used in various other games and sports. In the Elo system, ratings points are based on past performances and differences in ratings points reflect relative strength. Our rugbyvision.com ratings employ a different system to that used for the official world rugby (formerly International Rugby Board) ratings, so our rankings differ from the official ones.
                              

                              I've seen more of these kind of predictions v outcomes ratings based on algorithms, and they always seem to have strange rankings. In this one, only one of the winners of the four major competitions in 2017 (Aviva Premiership, Super Rugby, Pro12 and Top 14) is the highest ranked team of their competition.

                              Edited to add that it is also odd that they use the predictions & results of the unfinished European competitions (12 games Premiership, 10-12 games Pro 12 & 14 games Top 14), instead of the data of finished 2016-2017 competitions.

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                                #2676

                                Look at the mighty Scots. 6 and 11 when they only have two teams.

                                Eat your fucken heart out Krasny Yar ( sounds like a bounty hunter from Star Wars )

                                Shit thread. When does the 20/20 start?

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                                  How can Glasgow be ahead of Saracens ?

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                                  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                                    I'm cool with the list, because a team that doesn't even exist is ahead of the Waratahs and the Reds.

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                                      This is the Jaguares squad for the 2018 SR season. Apart from a new Head Coach, former Wallabies assistant coach Mario Ledesma, it looks like they also have quite a few new players.

                                      https://twitter.com/JaguaresARG/status/948249886188822528

                                      .

                                      Five of last year's 8 props don't return this year. I know two of them are now playing in France (Ramiro Herrera/Stade Francais and Facundo Gigena/Leicester Tigers) and one in England (Lucas Noguera Paz/ Bath).
                                      Also one of the three hookers from the 2017 isn't coming back. So a lot of new faces in their frontrow. Creevy still there though. Two of their six 2017 locks are no longer in the squad, neither are two loosies. Also notable absences from the squad are wingers Santiago Cordero and Manuel Montero (the latter having terminated his contract with the Argentinian union to return to his club Pucarà in the Argentine domestic competition Top12).

                                      The names with an asterisk are Argentina XV players who have been invited to train with the squad during the first week of preseason.

                                      Cubelli has returned to Argentina from the Brumbies. Among the new players are former Pumas 7s players Sebastián Cancelliere (replacing Montero) and Santiago Álvarez Fourcade.

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                                        I'll just put this here...

                                        0_1514778566282_1f437243-5e60-44d2-87e5-b51431531706-image.png

                                        Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):

                                        1. Where from?
                                        2. any idea how they calculate?
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                                        @booboo said in Super Rugby News:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                                        I'll just put this here...

                                        0_1514778566282_1f437243-5e60-44d2-87e5-b51431531706-image.png

                                        Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):

                                        1. Where from?
                                        2. any idea how they calculate?

                                        and what are the comedy blues doing in the top 58???

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                                          Daffy Jaffy
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                                          From the All Blacks website.
                                          2018 pre-season schedule
                                          Chiefs v Blues, 4pm, Friday 2 February, Te Kuiti
                                          Crusaders v Hurricanes, 5.30pm, Friday 2 February, Greymouth
                                          Highlanders v Waratahs, 6pm, Friday 2 February, Queenstown
                                          Brisbane Global Rugby Tens (all teams), 9-10 February, Brisbane
                                          Brumbies v Chiefs, Wednesday 14 February (time TBC), Sunshine Coast
                                          Highlanders v Crusaders, 6pm, Thursday 15 February, Waimumu
                                          Hurricanes v Blues, time TBC, Thursday 15 February, Auckland

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