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    The Chiefs could welcome back co-captain Charlie Ngatai for Friday's Super Rugby clash with the Highlanders in Hamilton, but they have had yet another player ruled out for the season, with Dominic Bird to go under the knife.
    
    Bird is the fifth Chiefs player to be out for the season, after utility back Tim Nanai-Williams (shoulder), prop Atu Moli (quad haematoma) and fellow locking options Mitchell Brown (knee) and Fin Hoeata (shoulder).
    
    Cooper is still deciding on second row replacements after the recent hits to the locking stocks, but said Waikato's Sam Caird and Bay of Plenty's Baden Wardlaw were training with the team in the meantime.
    
    "Charlie could be this week, he could be next week, we're just going to see how he progresses during the week," Cooper said of the man who was making the move from the midfield to be the team's first-choice fullback this year.
    
    Midfielder Alex Nankivell is coming back into the selection frame following an appendix issue that had hospitalised him, having made a return via club rugby on Saturday.
    
    Outside back Levi Aumua (shoulder and hip) had done likewise, midfielder Regan Verney (groin) is to do the same this weekend or next, while Cooper said loosehead props Kane Hames (illness) and Mitchell Graham (leg) are still "long-term at the moment".
    

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/102595899/charlie-ngatai-may-return-for-chiefs-this-weekend-but-dominic-bird-out-for-season

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      Midfielder Alex Nankivell is coming back into the selection frame following an appendix issue that had hospitalised him, having made a return via club rugby on Saturday.

      Outside back Levi Aumua (shoulder and hip) had done likewise, midfielder Regan Verney (groin) is to do the same this weekend or next, while Cooper said loosehead props Kane Hames (illness) and Mitchell Graham (leg) are still "long-term at the moment".

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        I did notice Nankivell's name on the team list for Hautapu along with Luke Jacobson. Another name that piqued my interest in that club side was TH prop Ryan Coxon. He moved to Ta$man last year but may have returned home.

        Bummer for Bird. This puts a lot of pressure on BBBR to stay fit with the thin locking stocks.

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          The return of the Pocockwomble

          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/27/david-pocock-returns-to-tackle-crucial-change-in-ruck-law

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            Ha ha I wondered if CA would fly in Pocock to take reins of the cricket team 😁

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              I like this clip. Not only does the much maligned Ben May do something awesome (he must have caused a minor earthquake in Wellington during that run), the assistant ref is pretty fast as well!

              https://twitter.com/Hurricanesrugby/status/978340044149633024

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                So it appears Tongan Thor didn't get a week off for flattening that little Stormers winger.

                At first i was outraged, outraged i tell you! Then i read the decision, and thought "yea, that's not really a red card". Still not sure how he didn't get a yellow for it during the game though. I can forgive the lateness of it, as he is down, and old mate does a flick pass a fraction before the bus runs over him. But there is no way he meant to do anything but flatten him with the shoulder. Anyone trying to defend with "he's trying to wrap the arm, the guy just bounced too quick" never played rugby. That's a fucking shoulder charge.

                Massive hit though, that kid is probably still waking up with nightmares of big maroon freight trains.

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                  alt text

                  Clear YC for me.

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                    alt text

                    Clear YC for me.

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                    @antipodean without a doubt a yellow. It's in South Africa too, so you know it was replayed on the bigscreen 47 times. How was it missed?

                    Not a red though.

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                      shocking it was missed, late shoulder and high, looked like contact with his chin...while I think YC is sufficient, if it had been given a RC it wouldn't have surprised me either.

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                        you reckon it's high? I don't, i reckon he hits his shoulder, and the head snaps from there.

                        BOOM! Cha-hooo!

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                          you reckon it's high? I don't, i reckon he hits his shoulder, and the head snaps from there.

                          BOOM! Cha-hooo!

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                          @mariner4life I reckon there is brief contact chin-shoulder before the snap....when put alongside plenty of others we have seen called 'high' that is high all day.

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                            @mariner4life I reckon there is brief contact chin-shoulder before the snap....when put alongside plenty of others we have seen called 'high' that is high all day.

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                            @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                            @mariner4life I reckon there is brief contact chin-shoulder before the snap....when put alongside plenty of others we have seen called 'high' that is high all day.

                            alright soccer mum

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                              @mariner4life I reckon there is brief contact chin-shoulder before the snap....when put alongside plenty of others we have seen called 'high' that is high all day.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                              @mariner4life I reckon there is brief contact chin-shoulder before the snap....when put alongside plenty of others we have seen called 'high' that is high all day.

                              @mariner4life I reckon if you pause on the first contact it gets his chin clean as.

                              Solid hit but!

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                                @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

                                @mariner4life I reckon there is brief contact chin-shoulder before the snap....when put alongside plenty of others we have seen called 'high' that is high all day.

                                alright soccer mum

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                                @mariner4life pfft....I'm not the one making the game soft bro!

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                                  I don't think that that tackle from Taniel Tupou was significantly less serious than Van Vuuren's tackle on Dmac. Van Vuuren got 3 weeks. Tupou a warning.

                                  Edited to italicize the word "significantly". I don't think the difference between these two tackles justifies the huge difference in sanction.

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                                    I don't think that that tackle from Taniel Tupou was significantly less serious than Van Vuuren's tackle on Dmac. Van Vuuren got 3 weeks. Tupou a warning.

                                    Edited to italicize the word "significantly". I don't think the difference between these two tackles justifies the huge difference in sanction.

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                                    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                    I don't think that that tackle from Taniel Tupou was significantly less serious than Van Vuuren's tackle on Dmac. Van Vuuren got 3 weeks. Tupou a warning.

                                    Nah. Van Vuuren's was much later with a swinging arm.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      I don't think that that tackle from Taniel Tupou was significantly less serious than Van Vuuren's tackle on Dmac. Van Vuuren got 3 weeks. Tupou a warning.

                                      Edited to italicize the word "significantly". I don't think the difference between these two tackles justifies the huge difference in sanction.

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                                      @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                      I don't think that that tackle from Taniel Tupou was significantly less serious than Van Vuuren's tackle on Dmac. Van Vuuren got 3 weeks. Tupou a warning.

                                      before i do my usual trick of jumping straight to my usual high horse, can you explain?

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                                        @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                        I don't think that that tackle from Taniel Tupou was significantly less serious than Van Vuuren's tackle on Dmac. Van Vuuren got 3 weeks. Tupou a warning.

                                        before i do my usual trick of jumping straight to my usual high horse, can you explain?

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                                        @mariner4life See my edit to my previous post.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @mariner4life See my edit to my previous post.

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                                          @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                          @mariner4life See my edit to my previous post.

                                          while i can understand your view, i personally see them as being very different. Despite my esteemed fellow posters' opinions below, i still am not convinced TT hits him in the head. It's also barely late enough to be called that.

                                          Whereas Thuggy van Roidrage was waaay late, and his swinging arm definitely hit Mackenzie in the head.

                                          I thought the Bulls guy should have been red carded, while TT should have been yellow carded (and the officials fucked up by not doing those things on the day). And that is a distinctive difference.

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